"The 502 Kid said:lol this is a fight not jeopardy"Mai can give Chun-Li a run for her money"I don't think you understand how dumb Mai is..."
What Female h2h Fighter can beat Chun Li
"Black Canary should beat Chun li1.Not without her sonic bird call....
Gamora
Huntress
Batman
Captain America
Black Widow
Nightwing"
"Vance Astro said:I know but Chun-Li uses people's stupidity to her advantage.Believe it or not she is a genius in scholastics and in combat."The 502 Kid said:lol this is a fight not jeopardy""Mai can give Chun-Li a run for her money"I don't think you understand how dumb Mai is..."
"That's what I know."Nah, that's what you think... Black Canary is a beast. She has the skills to beat Chun Li.
"Vance Astro said:Show me somethin' then...I haven't seen Black Canary beat a Chun-Li level fighter.So let me know somethin.."That's what I know."Nah, that's what you think... Black Canary is a beast. She has the skills to beat Chun Li."
"Show me somethin' then...I haven't seen Black Canary beat a Chun-Li level fighter.So let me know somethin.."She doesn't have to beat a Chun-Li level fighter to be able to beat Chun-Li. Out of the all the female martial artists, Canary is one of the best, along with Shiva (whom I feel she is on par with) and Cassandra. She's isn't a top-tier fighter for nothing. She was trained by Sensei Otomo, same dude that trained Shiva (ever wonder why she's so great? Her master is a great fighter, too), and Canary was also trained by Wildcat. She was able to hold her own against Shiva (like I said, on par), Deathstroke, and Cassandra. She defeated Cheshire, Lynx (who gave Cassandra a hard time), Hellhound (another and underrated great martial artist), Lady Vic (another master martial artist), Ra's Al Ghul, and Talia as well. I don't if this means anything to you, but you seem to judge a character based on who he/she has defeated. So, here you go. As for scans, it'll have to wait. Black Canary respect threads are hard to come by.
"Vance Astro said:I'm not really asking for scans..I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.I remember at time Batman saving Black Canary from getting her face kicked in by street thugs.I honestly don't even think Lady Shiva can handle Chun-Li but I am giving her the benefit of the doubt here.Chun-li is a skilled and rutheless fighter trained by the best fighter in Chine at the time (Her father) and Master Gen who rivals Akuma.Chun-Li has been chastised again and again for not knowing how to hold back and complete destroying her opponents.So far..Bison is the only person I know of who has actually beaten her.Ryu gave her the title strongest Woman in the world because she is extremely powerful and durable...she took a Sonic Boom from Shadow (Psycho Drive Charlie) which sent her straight through a wall of wood and brick and got right back up.Sensei-O is a great fighter but everybody trained by a great fighter isn't a great fighter or the whole entire Avengers team would be great martial artists.I don't think Black Canary can handle Lady Shiva for even a few minutes without the plot saving her...because I haven't seen much to suggest that she is that good of a fighter."Show me somethin' then...I haven't seen Black Canary beat a Chun-Li level fighter.So let me know somethin.."She doesn't have to beat a Chun-Li level fighter to be able to beat Chun-Li. Out of the all the female martial artists, Canary is one of the best, along with Shiva (whom I feel she is on par with) and Cassandra. She's isn't a top-tier fighter for nothing. She was trained by Sensei Otomo, same dude that trained Shiva (ever wonder why she's so great? Her master is a great fighter, too), and Canary was also trained by Wildcat. She was able to hold her own against Shiva (like I said, on par), Deathstroke, and Cassandra. She defeated Cheshire, Lynx (who gave Cassandra a hard time), Hellhound (another and underrated great martial artist), Lady Vic (another master martial artist), Ra's Al Ghul, and Talia as well. I don't if this means anything to you, but you seem to judge a character based on who he/she has defeated. So, here you go. As for scans, it'll have to wait. Black Canary respect threads are hard to come by."
"I don't think Black Canary can handle Lady Shiva for even a few minutes without the plot saving her...because I haven't seen much to suggest that she is that good of a fighter."I don't think plot would have anything to do with her fighting Shiva. As far as I know, they fought to a draw. That should tell you something. As for Batman saving Black Canary, was there anything hindering her from fighting to the best of her ability? Hell, Shiva was defeated by Cheshire (even though Shiva is still better than Cheshire), yet, Canary came to save her and defeated Cheshire. This means just as much Batman saving Canary. Nothing. As for Sensei Otomo, he only had two students. Ryu and Ken were great martial artists, being taught by another great martial artist. Why can't the same be said for Shiva and Canary being trained by Otomo? What sets Ryu and Ken apart? Is it because they are trained to use their Ki in the form of special moves that don't exist in the DC Universe?
Also, O-Sensei and Sensei Otomo are two different people. And, Canary is said to be on par with Richard Dragon, another master martial artist that it top-tier and well-respected.
"Vance Astro said:Even if I was willing to agree that Black Canary is on the level of Lady Shiva and Richard Dragon..I don't think either is on Chun-Li's level.People like to think Street Fighter characters are all ki attacks but Chun-Li has amazing physical ability and athletic ability.She was trained by the best and China and has only lost one fight in her life time.When Chun-Li attempted to Liberate Cammy from Shadowloo..she beat most of Bison's Dolls by herself including Cammy herself but she spared her life.People think Bison's Dolls are just drones but Bison took the best female fighters of that universe and took over their minds making them his assassins.Sensei Otomo is not Gokuen whom I believe is far above him in fighting skill.What sets Ryu and Ken apart is not their ki attacks..Ryu,before even learning a hadouken beat the hell out of Retsu who was already a Master of Shotokan.Gouken had to pull Ryu off of him before he went to far.Everything in SF isn't ki...Zangief doesn't have any ki attacks,Blanka doesn't have any ki attacks...he learned electricity from eels."I don't think Black Canary can handle Lady Shiva for even a few minutes without the plot saving her...because I haven't seen much to suggest that she is that good of a fighter."I don't think plot would have anything to do with her fighting Shiva. As far as I know, they fought to a draw. That should tell you something. As for Batman saving Black Canary, was there anything hindering her from fighting to the best of her ability? Hell, Shiva was defeated by Cheshire (even though Shiva is still better than Cheshire), yet, Canary came to save her and defeated Cheshire. This means just as much Batman saving Canary. Nothing. As for Sensei Otomo, he only had two students. Ryu and Ken were great martial artists, being taught by another great martial artist. Why can't the same be said for Shiva and Canary being trained by Otomo? What sets Ryu and Ken apart? Is it because they are trained to use their Ki in the form of special moves that don't exist in the DC Universe?"
"Even if I was willing to agree that Black Canary is on the level of Lady Shiva and Richard Dragon..I don't think either is on Chun-Li's level.People like to think Street Fighter characters are all ki attacks but Chun-Li has amazing physical ability and athletic ability.She was trained by the best and China and has only lost one fight in her life time.When Chun-Li attempted to Liberate Cammy from Shadowloo..she beat most of Bison's Dolls by herself including Cammy herself but she spared her life.People think Bison's Dolls are just drones but Bison took the best female fighters of that universe and took over their minds making them his assassins.Sensei Otomo is not Gokuen whom I believe is far above him in fighting skill.What sets Ryu and Ken apart is not their ki attacks..Ryu,before even learning a hadouken beat the hell out of Retsu who was already a Master of Shotokan.Gouken had to pull Ryu off of him before he went to far.Everything in SF isn't ki...Zangief doesn't have any ki attacks,Blanka doesn't have any ki attacks...he learned electricity from eels.I'm wondering why Chun Li's training is supposed to make her better than Shiva or Black Canary. And not having lost doesnt mean anything. That only matters if the people you defeated are as good as or better then the one you are being compared to in this battle. Is it your opinion that Shiva and Chun Li would have fared worse against the people that Chun Li has defeated?It looks to me like Chun-Li outclasses Black Canary in every way I can think of."
"Vance Astro said:Yes."Even if I was willing to agree that Black Canary is on the level of Lady Shiva and Richard Dragon..I don't think either is on Chun-Li's level.People like to think Street Fighter characters are all ki attacks but Chun-Li has amazing physical ability and athletic ability.She was trained by the best and China and has only lost one fight in her life time.When Chun-Li attempted to Liberate Cammy from Shadowloo..she beat most of Bison's Dolls by herself including Cammy herself but she spared her life.People think Bison's Dolls are just drones but Bison took the best female fighters of that universe and took over their minds making them his assassins.Sensei Otomo is not Gokuen whom I believe is far above him in fighting skill.What sets Ryu and Ken apart is not their ki attacks..Ryu,before even learning a hadouken beat the hell out of Retsu who was already a Master of Shotokan.Gouken had to pull Ryu off of him before he went to far.Everything in SF isn't ki...Zangief doesn't have any ki attacks,Blanka doesn't have any ki attacks...he learned electricity from eels.Is it your opinion that Shiva and Chun Li would have fared worse against the people that Chun Li has defeated?"It looks to me like Chun-Li outclasses Black Canary in every way I can think of."
Why? I have yet to see anything showing Chun Li as being on a higher level then Shiva in hand to hand. Who are these people that she has fought that Shiva would fare worse against? Whether their powers are removed or not is also in question and if Canary were allowed to use her powers, as well as her fighting ability, she should be able to make short work of Chun Li.
Lady Shiva is badass. She beat David Cain (widely regarded as one of the top five hand to hand fighters in the DCU) while she was pregnant.
<---------------------------Loves Lady Shiva :P
"Wow... some serious scans being shown of Chun Li in action hereI wasn't done either...Comicvine's punk ass image directory blows.I keep getting internal sever errors.
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"King Saturn said:Yeah I feel ya. That happens to me quite a bit too when I am trying to load scans"Wow... some serious scans being shown of Chun Li in action hereI wasn't done either...Comicvine's punk ass image directory blows.I keep getting internal sever errors."
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"Vance Astro said:those errors get on my nerves i hope someone can fix them"King Saturn said:Yeah I feel ya. That happens to me quite a bit too when I am trying to load scans""Wow... some serious scans being shown of Chun Li in action hereI wasn't done either...Comicvine's punk ass image directory blows.I keep getting internal sever errors."
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"King Saturn said:Me Too"Vance Astro said:those errors get on my nerves i hope someone can fix them""King Saturn said:Yeah I feel ya. That happens to me quite a bit too when I am trying to load scans""Wow... some serious scans being shown of Chun Li in action hereI wasn't done either...Comicvine's punk ass image directory blows.I keep getting internal sever errors."
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Chung Li looks impressive. But thats about it. Did she kill Cammy? No. All that and she didn't kill her. In fact none of those characters where killed. Lady Shiva is a straight up killer. She takes people out with a single shot.
@Gambler...Chun-Li spared Cammy..the only reason Cammy can even survive her attacks is because she's a clone of Bison.Chun-Li was trying her best to hold back and Cammy couldn't do anything with her.Ryu gave Chun-Li the title.."STRONGEST WOMAN IN THE WORLD".Bison is the only person who has beaten Chun-Li which is understandable seeing as how he outclasses her in most areas.By the way every Street Fighter character has a special skill..Her's is marksmanship..she is the best Interpol Agent with a gun.
What female H2H fighter can beat Chun Li. That was the question. And if WW were de-powered to a human level, Chun Li would beat her. She isn't that great when it comes to H2H"
roflol that's the funniest thing i've ever read here...
seriously, have you ever even read a Wonder Woman comic?
Wonder Woman as a character is immortal (unaging), she was created by the gods thousands of years ago and is a warrior born.... she has lived with the amazons for thousands of years, training as a warrior in styles of combat that Chun-Li couldn't even imagine...
she's been fighting and training for millenia before Chun-Li was even born, even depowered down to Chun-Li's level, Wonder Woman is a master warrior and strategist of the highest caliber...
please, using logic and common sense before posting, posts like that just make you look stupid and uneducated with the characters you're talking about
M
"oldmagic said:And that concludes this class.Dr.Methos is available for further tutoring,Monday-Friday.What female H2H fighter can beat Chun Li. That was the question. And if WW were de-powered to a human level, Chun Li would beat her. She isn't that great when it comes to H2H"
roflol that's the funniest thing i've ever read here...
seriously, have you ever even read a Wonder Woman comic?
Wonder Woman as a character is immortal (unaging), she was created by the gods thousands of years ago and is a warrior born.... she has lived with the amazons for thousands of years, training as a warrior in styles of combat that Chun-Li couldn't even imagine...
she's been fighting and training for millenia before Chun-Li was even born, even depowered down to Chun-Li's level, Wonder Woman is a master warrior and strategist of the highest caliber...
please, using logic and common sense before posting, posts like that just make you look stupid and uneducated with the characters you're talking about
M"
"oldmagic said:You know, thats kind of funny because from what i see, she isn't that impressive. Batman could beat her if she were to be powered down to his level. Lady Shiva could do the same. Heck, Black Panther would murder her.What female H2H fighter can beat Chun Li. That was the question. And if WW were de-powered to a human level, Chun Li would beat her. She isn't that great when it comes to H2H"
roflol that's the funniest thing i've ever read here...
seriously, have you ever even read a Wonder Woman comic?
Wonder Woman as a character is immortal (unaging), she was created by the gods thousands of years ago and is a warrior born.... she has lived with the amazons for thousands of years, training as a warrior in styles of combat that Chun-Li couldn't even imagine...
she's been fighting and training for millenia before Chun-Li was even born, even depowered down to Chun-Li's level, Wonder Woman is a master warrior and strategist of the highest caliber...
please, using logic and common sense before posting, posts like that just make you look stupid and uneducated with the characters you're talking about
M"
"You know, thats kind of funny because from what i see, she isn't that impressive. Batman could beat her if she were to be powered down to his level. Lady Shiva could do the same. Heck, Black Panther would murder her. "Even if Wonder Woman didn't have her powers, she would still be a better fighter than all of these people you named. Her fighting style is exclusive, and it makes it difficult for others to contend with her. It's the same as all these people fighting against Zealot. Nobody is familiar with the way she fights. Batman admitted that she was a better martial artist than himself. And, if you haven't seen anything, then you haven't seen enough. Or, maybe you just don't want to see it. I even have a link to prove this to you.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/wonder-woman-vs-android-18/12698/?page=9
As always, a lot of people refuse to see or remain oblivious to what Wonder Woman is capable of compared other superheroes. I'm not gonna says it's because she's a woman. But, it damn sure seems like it. The madness needs to stop.
"Wonder Woman is better than him..let it go.Batman has trained under so many different martial arts of the most deadliest forms around the world from kung fu to taoism. This guy had teachers from David Cain to Yazuka's to Lady Shiva and other various teachers around the world. Saying Diana better than Batman in martial arts is just pure PISS. So she has an age old experience? So does Ra's al Ghul who had more then 500 years of martial arts training from around the world."
"oldmagic said:Buts theres no way she beats Androids 18"You know, thats kind of funny because from what i see, she isn't that impressive. Batman could beat her if she were to be powered down to his level. Lady Shiva could do the same. Heck, Black Panther would murder her. "Even if Wonder Woman didn't have her powers, she would still be a better fighter than all of these people you named. Her fighting style is exclusive, and it makes it difficult for others to contend with her. It's the same as all these people fighting against Zealot. Nobody is familiar with the way she fights. Batman admitted that she was a better martial artist than himself. And, if you haven't seen anything, then you haven't seen enough. Or, maybe you just don't want to see it. I even have a link to prove this to you.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/wonder-woman-vs-android-18/12698/?page=9
As always, a lot of people refuse to see or remain oblivious to what Wonder Woman is capable of compared other superheroes. I'm not gonna says it's because she's a woman. But, it damn sure seems like it. The madness needs to stop."
"Static Shock said:Don't be ridiculous."oldmagic said:Buts theres no way she beats Androids 18""You know, thats kind of funny because from what i see, she isn't that impressive. Batman could beat her if she were to be powered down to his level. Lady Shiva could do the same. Heck, Black Panther would murder her. "Even if Wonder Woman didn't have her powers, she would still be a better fighter than all of these people you named. Her fighting style is exclusive, and it makes it difficult for others to contend with her. It's the same as all these people fighting against Zealot. Nobody is familiar with the way she fights. Batman admitted that she was a better martial artist than himself. And, if you haven't seen anything, then you haven't seen enough. Or, maybe you just don't want to see it. I even have a link to prove this to you.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/wonder-woman-vs-android-18/12698/?page=9
As always, a lot of people refuse to see or remain oblivious to what Wonder Woman is capable of compared other superheroes. I'm not gonna says it's because she's a woman. But, it damn sure seems like it. The madness needs to stop."
"Lantern Prime said:"Static Shock said:Don't be ridiculous.""oldmagic said:Buts theres no way she beats Androids 18""You know, thats kind of funny because from what i see, she isn't that impressive. Batman could beat her if she were to be powered down to his level. Lady Shiva could do the same. Heck, Black Panther would murder her. "Even if Wonder Woman didn't have her powers, she would still be a better fighter than all of these people you named. Her fighting style is exclusive, and it makes it difficult for others to contend with her. It's the same as all these people fighting against Zealot. Nobody is familiar with the way she fights. Batman admitted that she was a better martial artist than himself. And, if you haven't seen anything, then you haven't seen enough. Or, maybe you just don't want to see it. I even have a link to prove this to you.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/wonder-woman-vs-android-18/12698/?page=9
As always, a lot of people refuse to see or remain oblivious to what Wonder Woman is capable of compared other superheroes. I'm not gonna says it's because she's a woman. But, it damn sure seems like it. The madness needs to stop."
Whatever u say, i don't care what u have to say. But Wonder Woman is not valid because shes a curbstomp character and is not evne worth debating over.
"Vance Astro said:If you don't care then why did you respond?"Lantern Prime said:"Static Shock said:Don't be ridiculous.""oldmagic said:Buts theres no way she beats Androids 18""You know, thats kind of funny because from what i see, she isn't that impressive. Batman could beat her if she were to be powered down to his level. Lady Shiva could do the same. Heck, Black Panther would murder her. "Even if Wonder Woman didn't have her powers, she would still be a better fighter than all of these people you named. Her fighting style is exclusive, and it makes it difficult for others to contend with her. It's the same as all these people fighting against Zealot. Nobody is familiar with the way she fights. Batman admitted that she was a better martial artist than himself. And, if you haven't seen anything, then you haven't seen enough. Or, maybe you just don't want to see it. I even have a link to prove this to you.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/wonder-woman-vs-android-18/12698/?page=9
As always, a lot of people refuse to see or remain oblivious to what Wonder Woman is capable of compared other superheroes. I'm not gonna says it's because she's a woman. But, it damn sure seems like it. The madness needs to stop."
Whatever u say, i don't care what u have to say. But Wonder Woman is not valid because shes a curbstomp character and is not evne worth debating over."
"Batman has trained under so many different martial arts of the most deadliest forms around the world from kung fu to taoism. This guy had teachers from David Cain to Yazuka's to Lady Shiva and other various teachers around the world. Saying Diana better than Batman in martial arts is just pure PISS. So she has an age old experience? So does Ra's al Ghul who had more then 500 years of martial arts training from around the world. Batman still beat him. And he could beat Diana if she were to be powered down to his level."
Diana and Ra's aren't the same. Just because he beat Ra's doesn't mean he'll beat Diana. Bad comparison. It doesn't really matter what and who Batman has trained under. Wonder Woman has been doing it longer for thousands of years. Her experience outweighs Batman's. It's almost like saying he's rookie compared to her. And, if the man said she's better than him, what are you arguing for? He didn't say the same for Ra's, so there you have it.
Lantern Prime said:
"Buts theres no way she beats Androids 18"You could never prove that 18 could win that battle or provide anything that puts her on par with Wonder Woman, so I doesn't really matter to me what you think about it up until now. It's like every time I post this, you magically appear out of no where saying she can't beat 18. Let it go, already.
"oldmagic said:Show me the scan then. Also, for a woman with so much martial arts ability, why is it that she can never beat superman who barely knows any martial arts? And the fact that there strength is almost on par."Batman has trained under so many different martial arts of the most deadliest forms around the world from kung fu to taoism. This guy had teachers from David Cain to Yazuka's to Lady Shiva and other various teachers around the world. Saying Diana better than Batman in martial arts is just pure PISS. So she has an age old experience? So does Ra's al Ghul who had more then 500 years of martial arts training from around the world. Batman still beat him. And he could beat Diana if she were to be powered down to his level."
Diana and Ra's aren't the same. Just because he beat Ra's doesn't mean he'll beat Diana. Bad comparison. It doesn't really matter what and who Batman has trained under. Wonder Woman has been doing it longer for thousands of years. Her experience outweighs Batman's. It's almost like saying he's rookie compared to her. And, if the man said she's better than him, what are you arguing for? He didn't say the same for Ra's, so there you have it.
"I did prove alot. Thats not even relevant to this topic so why bother?"You're the one who brought it up, didn't you. And, you didn't prove anything in that thread, just like you don't prove anything else in any other thread. So, why bother? All you said was 18 was stronger and faster, but you didn't provide anything to show for it. Don't be a fool.
"Show me the scan then. Also, for a woman with so much martial arts ability, why is it that she can never beat superman who barely knows any martial arts? And the fact that there strength is almost on par. "
I posted a link for you already on the last page. Follow it. And, she has beaten Superman before, even though Superman claims she could stop her anytime he wants....
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