Probably a lot of things. Pretty sure Q said that the Q are not omnipotent, despite popular opinion. But yeah, Q can kill other Q.
I'm not the most familiar with Star Trek, but is there more than one Q?
Yes, they are a species, I guess you could say, that have evolved over a millenia.. They have been at war with themselves/factions within the Q, as seen in Star Trek Voyager S3, I believe.
It was shown in the show that other Q could permanently effect Q. They punished him several times. That seems to imply that other sufficiently powerful reality manipulators could do the same.
It depends on the power levels you think they would have in respect to one another.
During their civil war, the Q fashioned weapons suitable for the Q to kill each other with, and at one point, several crew members of U.S.S. Voyager did get their hands on some of them. Because humans are not capable of comprehending the continuum (the native realm of the Q) as it truly is, their perception of it was made to resemble that of a scene from the U.S.'s civil war. The weapons capable of killing the Q looked like civil war muskets & pistols.
Didn't Voyager have some kind of Q weapons which can actually kill Q?
I'd say any character that, on actual feats, is way above the Q and can attack in ways beyond the purely physical could kill him. Beyonder, Galactus, Living Tribunal, Celestials (some of them anyway), had vastly superior feats even though I love Q and am tempted to play the "omnipotence" card. But that word gets tossed around easily and applied to characters that clearly are not omnipotent.
With enough time...Guinan. (Whoopi Goldbreg's character.)
I will never understand why Q was afraid of Guinan, obviously Q is not that powerful...
He was never afraid of her, in fact he said: Picard, if you had half the sense you pretend to have, you would get her off your ship immediately -- and if you like I will be more than pleased to expedite her departure.
With enough time...Guinan. (Whoopi Goldbreg's character.)
I will never understand why Q was afraid of Guinan, obviously Q is not that powerful...
He was never afraid of her, in fact he said: Picard, if you had half the sense you pretend to have, you would get her off your ship immediately -- and if you like I will be more than pleased to expedite her departure.
It's implied that Guinan has some kind of relationship with the Guardian of Forever.
I wouldn't be surprised if she had a Q musket under the bar.
With enough time...Guinan. (Whoopi Goldbreg's character.)
I will never understand why Q was afraid of Guinan, obviously Q is not that powerful...
He was never afraid of her, in fact he said: Picard, if you had half the sense you pretend to have, you would get her off your ship immediately -- and if you like I will be more than pleased to expedite her departure.
It's implied that Guinan has some kind of relationship with the Guardian of Forever.
I wouldn't be surprised if she had a Q musket under the bar.
In Star Trek canon? No. Also muskets you referring to are only symbolic representation Q weapons, they realy don't look that way. Also I doubt that Guinan have such powerful weapon and never used it against against the Borg etc.
With enough time...Guinan. (Whoopi Goldbreg's character.)
I will never understand why Q was afraid of Guinan, obviously Q is not that powerful...
He was never afraid of her, in fact he said: Picard, if you had half the sense you pretend to have, you would get her off your ship immediately -- and if you like I will be more than pleased to expedite her departure.
It's implied that Guinan has some kind of relationship with the Guardian of Forever.
I wouldn't be surprised if she had a Q musket under the bar.
You must be talking about Engines of Destiny. Star Trek novels arn't canon. Q wasn't afraid of her, he just didn't like her and vice versa.
Q has stated that he is indeed omnipotent (TNG: True Q). I don't think he can be killed. Perhaps by other omnipotent beings they can.
He can be killed, this is made very clear in Voyager when he's injured by Q weaponry. It's also impossible for him to be omnipotent, as you cannot be omnipotent if you are equal in power to anything else, and he is equal in power to other Q.
Q has stated that he is indeed omnipotent (TNG: True Q). I don't think he can be killed. Perhaps by other omnipotent beings they can.
Yeah, a statement from a well known consumate liar is not the most reliable thing in the world. Especially when we have other Q contradicting it.
I was referring to JXM's comment that he made like a year ago (didn't want to bother him for a comment he made such a long time ago). He said that Q has stated that he isn't omnipotent.
@Baldy said:
@Fetts said:
Q has stated that he is indeed omnipotent (TNG: True Q). I don't think he can be killed. Perhaps by other omnipotent beings they can.
He can be killed, this is made very clear in Voyager when he's injured by Q weaponry. It's also impossible for him to be omnipotent, as you cannot be omnipotent if you are equal in power to anything else, and he is equal in power to other Q.
I didn't watch much of Voyager. Would there be a video of this on Youtube?
Q has stated that he is indeed omnipotent (TNG: True Q). I don't think he can be killed. Perhaps by other omnipotent beings they can.
Yeah, a statement from a well known consumate liar is not the most reliable thing in the world. Especially when we have other Q contradicting it.
I was referring to JXM's comment that he made like a year ago (didn't want to bother him for a comment he made such a long time ago). He said that Q has stated that he isn't omnipotent.
@Baldy said:
@Fetts said:
Q has stated that he is indeed omnipotent (TNG: True Q). I don't think he can be killed. Perhaps by other omnipotent beings they can.
He can be killed, this is made very clear in Voyager when he's injured by Q weaponry. It's also impossible for him to be omnipotent, as you cannot be omnipotent if you are equal in power to anything else, and he is equal in power to other Q.
I didn't watch much of Voyager. Would there be a video of this on Youtube?
It's not just a disguised Q power either, because humans were able to wield the weapons.
@Baldy: Ah. I see. Though I'd ask if all of this was legit. I mean, why would Q willingly go out like that, when he could have just snapped the muskets out of existence? Was he perhaps toying with everybody? Even if he was willing to die he seemingly didn't want Janeway to be killed in the process. He could have snapped her to a safe distance. He almost seemed... powerless. Was that other Q dampening his powers or something?
Q has stated that he is indeed omnipotent (TNG: True Q). I don't think he can be killed. Perhaps by other omnipotent beings they can.
Yeah, a statement from a well known consumate liar is not the most reliable thing in the world. Especially when we have other Q contradicting it.
I was referring to JXM's comment that he made like a year ago (didn't want to bother him for a comment he made such a long time ago). He said that Q has stated that he isn't omnipotent.
@Baldy
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@Fetts said:
Q has stated that he is indeed omnipotent (TNG: True Q). I don't think he can be killed. Perhaps by other omnipotent beings they can.
He can be killed, this is made very clear in Voyager when he's injured by Q weaponry. It's also impossible for him to be omnipotent, as you cannot be omnipotent if you are equal in power to anything else, and he is equal in power to other Q.
I didn't watch much of Voyager. Would there be a video of this on Youtube?
It's not just a disguised Q power either, because humans were able to wield the weapons.
@8765309: That, I have seen. Let it be noted that really is no evidence of Q actually being harmed. He is clearly shocked but he doesn't seem to be hurt in any way.
@Fetts: lol it was just a joke. evidence has already been posted. Q weapons can kill Q's. The weapons biggest feat is making Suns supernova. The 1th Doctor made a sun go supernova with his Tardis just to send a Goodbye message to Rose. Quinn stated Q's are not Immortal in his conversation with Tuvok in the episode Death Wish. Q wanted to turn Striker into a Q. They said Humans would become more powerful than the Q continuum. Q's aren't immortal. It's not an opinion. It's a fact. They aren't even the most powerful beings feat wise in the Star Trek Universe in my opinion.
@Fetts: lol it was just a joke. evidence has already been posted. Q weapons can kill Q's. The weapons biggest feat is making Suns supernova. The 1th Doctor made a sun go supernova with his Tardis just to send a Goodbye message to Rose. Quinn stated Q's are not Immortal in his conversation with Tuvok in the episode Death Wish. Q wanted to turn Striker into a Q. They said Humans would become more powerful than the Q continuum. Q's aren't immortal. It's not an opinion. It's a fact. They aren't even the most powerful beings feat wise in the Star Trek Universe in my opinion.
The "1th" Doctor? As in Doctor Who? What does he have to do with this?
As the link JXM provided link states, what he said was questionable.
I think Q wanted Riker as a member of the continuum because they underestimated man's potential. That doesn't necessarily mean they become more powerful.
Also, I'm talking about omnipotence, not immortality.
I will say though that I'm tempted to watch some of these episodes you speak of.
@Fetts: lol it was just a joke. evidence has already been posted. Q weapons can kill Q's. The weapons biggest feat is making Suns supernova. The 1th Doctor made a sun go supernova with his Tardis just to send a Goodbye message to Rose. Quinn stated Q's are not Immortal in his conversation with Tuvok in the episode Death Wish. Q wanted to turn Striker into a Q. They said Humans would become more powerful than the Q continuum. Q's aren't immortal. It's not an opinion. It's a fact. They aren't even the most powerful beings feat wise in the Star Trek Universe in my opinion.
The "1th" Doctor? As in Doctor Who? What does he have to do with this? As the link JXM provided link states, what he said was questionable. I think Q wanted Riker as a member of the continuum because they underestimated man's potential. That doesn't necessarily mean they become more powerful. Also, I'm talking about omnipotence, not immortality. I will say though that I'm tempted to watch some of these episodes you speak of.
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quinn states they aren't omnipotent in the same tuvok scene. The Doctor is coolest Ex Ducha MAchina ever.
@Fetts: lol it was just a joke. evidence has already been posted. Q weapons can kill Q's. The weapons biggest feat is making Suns supernova. The 1th Doctor made a sun go supernova with his Tardis just to send a Goodbye message to Rose. Quinn stated Q's are not Immortal in his conversation with Tuvok in the episode Death Wish. Q wanted to turn Striker into a Q. They said Humans would become more powerful than the Q continuum. Q's aren't immortal. It's not an opinion. It's a fact. They aren't even the most powerful beings feat wise in the Star Trek Universe in my opinion.
The "1th" Doctor? As in Doctor Who? What does he have to do with this? As the link JXM provided link states, what he said was questionable. I think Q wanted Riker as a member of the continuum because they underestimated man's potential. That doesn't necessarily mean they become more powerful. Also, I'm talking about omnipotence, not immortality. I will say though that I'm tempted to watch some of these episodes you speak of.
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quinn states they aren't omnipotent in the same tuvok scene. The Doctor is coolest Ex Ducha MAchina ever.
Ah..... That would seem to be solid evidence that Q aren't entirely omnipotent. I guess I didn't recall that last bit of what Q said to Riker.
Though I'm still wondering what Doctor Who has anything to do with Star Trek.
With enough time...Guinan. (Whoopi Goldbreg's character.)
I will never understand why Q was afraid of Guinan, obviously Q is not that powerful...
He was never afraid of her, in fact he said: Picard, if you had half the sense you pretend to have, you would get her off your ship immediately -- and if you like I will be more than pleased to expedite her departure.
It's implied that Guinan has some kind of relationship with the Guardian of Forever.
I wouldn't be surprised if she had a Q musket under the bar.
You must be talking about Engines of Destiny. Star Trek novels arn't canon. Q wasn't afraid of her, he just didn't like her and vice versa.
Yeah that was it. Whatever the case, she must have SOMETHING to put Q on edge.
Q has stated that he is indeed omnipotent (TNG: True Q). I don't think he can be killed. Perhaps by other omnipotent beings they can.
He can be killed, this is made very clear in Voyager when he's injured by Q weaponry. It's also impossible for him to be omnipotent, as you cannot be omnipotent if you are equal in power to anything else, and he is equal in power to other Q.
Yes, he is equal in power to other members of his own species, who also can be omnipotent - how thas this prove that Q Continuum is not all powerful? Also Voyager writing... not the best in the word...
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@Fetts: lol it was just a joke. evidence has already been posted. Q weapons can kill Q's. The weapons biggest feat is making Suns supernova. The 1th Doctor made a sun go supernova with his Tardis just to send a Goodbye message to Rose. Quinn stated Q's are not Immortal in his conversation with Tuvok in the episode Death Wish. Q wanted to turn Striker into a Q. They said Humans would become more powerful than the Q continuum. Q's aren't immortal. It's not an opinion. It's a fact. They aren't even the most powerful beings feat wise in the Star Trek Universe in my opinion.
No, Q are immortal - entire episode was about consequences of member of Continuum dying - that never happened before. Thats why Continuum didn't let Quinn to commit suicide. Also blowing up stars - that was only side effect of Q's weapon, those weapons were used on entirely different plane of existence yet they still could affect our reality in significant way...
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