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WF Mxy vs Pre Retcon Beyonder vs Thanos w/ HOTU vs SBP1M
"I don't know. I think you guys are underestimating WF Mxy
here's how it goes...
1. Thanos w/HOTU
2. PR Beyonder3. GoldenSupes
4/ WF MXY
"
Beyonder = THOTI >>> WF Mxy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SBP 1 mil. There should be more '>'s between Mxy and Prime but you get the point.
That's because everyone shit their pants in front of him and trembled in fear other than the celestials, Molecule Man, and Galactus. This includes Living Tribunal and Eternity.
There's a such thing as one power being closer to infinity right? I mean infinity comprises all numbers. So 1,001,000 will be closer to infinity than 1,000,000. I mean they still wouldn't be close to infinity but one number, logically and mathematically, should be closer to reaching infinity? Or maybe not....
If there's such a thing, HOTU seems to make the wielder closer to infinity in power than the Beyonder's power alone. Mainly because HOTU is said to be the power of TOAA himself. I'm not truly sure.
And to add on to that, when Galactus and the Celestials went against him, they were very easily defeated" @Thanos1992: That's because everyone shit their pants in front of him and trembled in fear other than the celestials, Molecule Man, and Galactus. This includes Living Tribunal and Eternity. "
Really? You have no idea what you are talking about. LT and all of the other cosmic beings COMBINED politely asked for permission just to talk to PR Beyonder. They wouldn't even dare try to fight him." Thanos wins simply because hes shown better feats
his god hood usely has him wipeing the floor with other beings that close to his level like living tribunal
while beyonder never really fought anyone
" @RiseofApocalypse said:The only time LT ever fought Thanos ended in a loss." @Thanos1992: That's because everyone shit their pants in front of him and trembled in fear other than the celestials, Molecule Man, and Galactus. This includes Living Tribunal and Eternity. "Well its normal for someone to shit there pants when someone as badass as thanos gets god hood eternity hasnt ever beat thanos when hes had IG or HOTU only one who has beaten thanos when he was god of marvel was living tribunal the other guys in this match never really fight anyone they uselly snap their fingers and they win only thanos has been shown fighting someone longer then 5 secs "
" @RiseofApocalypse said:The only time LT ever fought Thanos ended in a loss." @Thanos1992: That's because everyone shit their pants in front of him and trembled in fear other than the celestials, Molecule Man, and Galactus. This includes Living Tribunal and Eternity. "Well its normal for someone to shit there pants when someone as badass as thanos gets god hood eternity hasnt ever beat thanos when hes had IG or HOTU only one who has beaten thanos when he was god of marvel was living tribunal the other guys in this match never really fight anyone they uselly snap their fingers and they win only thanos has been shown fighting someone longer then 5 secs "
Thanos and PR Beyonder were equal IMO. Neither was truly omnipotent but both were more powerful than the most powerful beings in existence(LT, Galactus, Eternity, etc). There is no way to gauge their power difference if there is any.
We are. He has feats on par with Beyonder/Thanos, but I have a hard time believing that WF Mxy could take it to the Tribunal.
Also, why did you include 1mil in your thread? SBP1M is barely SCW Anti-Monitor level if that even. I mean all he did was save one universe and telekinetically hold a galaxy...and he was struggling.
" @Waffle Fries said:" @Thanos1992 said:Really? You have no idea what you are talking about. LT and all of the other cosmic beings COMBINED politely asked for permission just to talk to PR Beyonder. They wouldn't even dare try to fight him. "" Thanos wins simply because hes shown better feats
his god hood usely has him wipeing the floor with other beings that close to his level like living tribunal
while beyonder never really fought anyone
really?
lets see u post a scan to back up your words
@Lance Uppercut said:" @Thanos1992 said:Living tribunal and thanos both have 1 for 1 thanos fought him once with hotu and he won the only other time he would have fought him was with IG and he would have lost that but they didnt fight unofficaly it would be 1 win 1 loss but if u count only fights then thanos beat him 1 nothing "" @RiseofApocalypse said:The only time LT ever fought Thanos ended in a loss. "" @Thanos1992: That's because everyone shit their pants in front of him and trembled in fear other than the celestials, Molecule Man, and Galactus. This includes Living Tribunal and Eternity. "Well its normal for someone to shit there pants when someone as badass as thanos gets god hood eternity hasnt ever beat thanos when hes had IG or HOTU only one who has beaten thanos when he was god of marvel was living tribunal the other guys in this match never really fight anyone they uselly snap their fingers and they win only thanos has been shown fighting someone longer then 5 secs "
WTF? You said they fought twice. They only fought once. You were wrong. There's no unofficially anything.
" @Waffle Fries said:
" @Thanos1992 said:
Really? You have no idea what you are talking about. LT and all of the other cosmic beings COMBINED politely asked for permission just to talk to PR Beyonder. They wouldn't even dare try to fight him. "" Thanos wins simply because hes shown better feats
his god hood usely has him wipeing the floor with other beings that close to his level like living tribunal
while beyonder never really fought anyone
really?
lets see u post a scan to back up your words
The first image shows all of the cosmic beings, including the LT, asking for permission to speak with Beyonder. They were trying to convince him not to kill death. He did it anyway and they could do nothing to stop him.
The second image shows The Watcher on his knees begging Molecule Man to help him and all the other beings in the Marvel U fight Beyonder because without him they didn't stand a chance. Molecule Man mind you, ended up freaking out and crying himself into a fit because he was so freaking scared of what Beyonder was going to do to him. Notice at the top of the second scan, it says that Owen Reece aka "Molecule Man" is the most powerful being in the entire Marvel Multiverse. MM finally did fight Beyonder. The fight lasted a few seconds and Beyonder won.
How about you read a comic before you go making grand accusations that Beyonder has no feats.
lol" @Waffle Fries: Thanks for your recognition of my feats :) "
I'm glad to see a fanboy for a true powerful character
@Thanos1992 said:
Even though Waffle Fries already posted the scans, I must honestly ask" @Waffle Fries said:
" @Thanos1992 said:Really? You have no idea what you are talking about. LT and all of the other cosmic beings COMBINED politely asked for permission just to talk to PR Beyonder. They wouldn't even dare try to fight him. "" Thanos wins simply because hes shown better feats
his god hood usely has him wipeing the floor with other beings that close to his level like living tribunal
while beyonder never really fought anyone
really?
lets see u post a scan to back up your words
@Lance Uppercut said:" @Thanos1992 said:Living tribunal and thanos both have 1 for 1 thanos fought him once with hotu and he won the only other time he would have fought him was with IG and he would have lost that but they didnt fight unofficaly it would be 1 win 1 loss but if u count only fights then thanos beat him 1 nothing "" @RiseofApocalypse said:The only time LT ever fought Thanos ended in a loss. "" @Thanos1992: That's because everyone shit their pants in front of him and trembled in fear other than the celestials, Molecule Man, and Galactus. This includes Living Tribunal and Eternity. "Well its normal for someone to shit there pants when someone as badass as thanos gets god hood eternity hasnt ever beat thanos when hes had IG or HOTU only one who has beaten thanos when he was god of marvel was living tribunal the other guys in this match never really fight anyone they uselly snap their fingers and they win only thanos has been shown fighting someone longer then 5 secs "
Did you even read Secret Wars? Do you even know what you're debating about?
@Waffle Fries:
"Beyonder never really fought anyone"- Thanos1992. You're scans prove nothing in that regard since he did not fight as many beings compared to Thanos in The End. The only ones that had the balls to fight Beyonder were a bunch of celestials, Molecule Man, Doom, and the big Galactus.
"Molecule Man was the most powerful being in the Marvel Multiverse at that time so the fact Beyonder beat him in a few seconds is a bigger feat in itself then Thanos fighting the whole cosmic pantheon at once. And the fact that all of the most powerful cosmic beings were too scared to even try to fight Beyonder is a testament to his power. LT and the other cosmic beings still tried to fight Thanos. They wouldn't even try with Beyonder because they knew he would blink them all out of existence within a second. In fact, that was what he was going to do at the end of Secret Wars 2. He was going to destroy the whole Marvel Multiverse with but a thought, but he changed his mind.
@Waffle Fries: "Beyonder never really fought anyone"- Thanos1992. You're scans prove nothing in that regard since he did not fight as many beings compared to Thanos in The End. The only ones that had the balls to fight Beyonder were a bunch of celestials, Molecule Man, Doom, and the big Galactus. "
The thing is the more recent cosmics are more powerful than the 80s cosmics. There was no such thing as an 'omniverse' back then during the Secret Wars, only a multi-verse.
But like I said, there is no way to gauge their power difference if there is any.
" @RiseofApocalypse said:Quality over quantity is a good way to sum up what you said."Molecule Man was the most powerful being in the Marvel Multiverse at that time so the fact Beyonder beat him in a few seconds is a bigger feat in itself then Thanos fighting the whole cosmic pantheon at once. And the fact that all of the most powerful cosmic beings were too scared to even try to fight Beyonder is a testament to his power. LT and the other cosmic beings still tried to fight Thanos. They wouldn't even try with Beyonder because they knew he would blink them all out of existence within a second. In fact, that was what he was going to do at the end of Secret Wars 2. He was going to destroy the whole Marvel Multiverse with but a thought, but he changed his mind. "
@Waffle Fries: "Beyonder never really fought anyone"- Thanos1992. You're scans prove nothing in that regard since he did not fight as many beings compared to Thanos in The End. The only ones that had the balls to fight Beyonder were a bunch of celestials, Molecule Man, Doom, and the big Galactus. "
Thanos HOTU handily, the One above all's power>>> anyone else.
Pre-recton Beyonder, the Living Tribunal was an abstract level, and not the 2nd to god, as he is now in the Marvel universe.
WF Mxy hit the narrator in the face I believe, that is arguably the best feat in Comic book history, but Pre-recton power is very slightly superior IMO; are both fools, and can be easily tricked, out of there powers.
Superman Prime 1 million, was supposedly 2nd to God, meaning he is even above WF Mxy, but he lacks the feats to prove it.
@kingant27: nope. stalemate.
and superman dies in the first second.
Anyway PR Beyonder stomps everyone.
ppl saying "x" is more power then the omniverse is clueless, find out what omniverse is.
omniverse is everything real world u, me, president obama, comic image, wildstorm, dc, marvel, books, cartoons, movies series, hurricane sandy. omniverse is everything period.
stalemate. beyonder is not omnipotent. also super man commits suicide when he sees their power.
@skyroid: omniverse is not a word.
@baron_von_santa: true
@skyroid: which means I agree, those people were talking nonsense.
@skyroid: which means I agree, those people were talking nonsense.
omniverse is a word according to marvel handbook. but its not real word
@skyroid: yeah, the marvel handbook. not really a good source though, it tries to sound big, but DC is even bigger, with both DC and wildstorm and vertigo, inside DC, infinite universes spawn.
I am a vertigo fan
@skyroid: yeah, the marvel handbook. not really a good source though, it tries to sound big, but DC is even bigger, with both DC and wildstorm and vertigo, inside DC, infinite universes spawn.
I am a vertigo fan
I don't have like a favorite company I just like them when they make really interesting books. yea vertigo defines interesting.
in marvel handbook it says.
"omniverse is everything period. all companies all humans, cartoons, books, screen frame. the keyboard everyone using rigt now to type, this website. the guy next door, spiderman,the real world and fake ur imagination, ur dream, all thing is omniverse"
@skyroid: yeah, the marvel handbook. not really a good source though, it tries to sound big, but DC is even bigger, with both DC and wildstorm and vertigo, inside DC, infinite universes spawn.
I am a vertigo fan
do u think mxy beats or even come close to Presence and TOAA?
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