Weightlifting contest: Nemesis (Resident Evil) vs Spider-Man

Spider-man (Peter Parker) and Nemesis duke it out in a battle of who can lift the most weight. They are lifting an adamantium box that can magically augment its weight to any number. They each have to carry the box as long and far as possible. First person to get tired and drop the box loses. Who emerges the victor?

Soooo what feats does Nemesis actually have to put him on Spider-Man's level?

@god_spawn said:

Soooo what feats does Nemesis actually have to put him on Spider-Man's level?

He's big and his rocket launcher is too heavy for a regular human. plus he busts through solid walls.

@Living_Monstrosity: Too heavy for a regular human is pretty vague, Spider-man's lifted cars and train carriages.

@god_spawn said:

Soooo what feats does Nemesis actually have to put him on Spider-Man's level?

If we count Operation Raccoon City he does have 1 strength feat. He pushes a downed city bus across the street to crush Jill and causes it to flip and land on its wheels. Now city buses range in weight but a large one like the one Nemesis threw can weight 28,000 - 40,000 lbs.

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Considering he was able to push this one that far while it was on its side as metal was creating friction with the ground the whole time it moved, I'd say Nemesis can lift much more than that.

Then again I'm not sure what Spider-Man's strength class is so I'm not sure how this feat compares to Spider-Man's displays of strength.

@Living_Monstrosity said:

@god_spawn said:

Soooo what feats does Nemesis actually have to put him on Spider-Man's level?

He's big and his rocket launcher is too heavy for a regular human. plus he busts through solid walls.

That's nothing Spider-Man can't accomplish with relative ease.

@Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe said:

@god_spawn said:

Soooo what feats does Nemesis actually have to put him on Spider-Man's level?

If we count Operation Raccoon City he does have 1 strength feat. He pushes a downed city bus across the street to crush Jill and causes it to flip and land on its wheels. Now city buses range in weight but a large one like the one Nemesis threw can weight 28,000 - 40,000 lbs.

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Considering he was able to push this one that far while it was on its side as metal was creating friction with the ground the whole time it moved, I'd say Nemesis can lift much more than that.

Damn! 0_0

@_Punk_ said:

Nemesis. In a landslide.

If that is Nemesis's best strength feat, there's no comparison. Spider-Man has lifted a tank above his head, stabilized a building from collapsing and has numerous strength feats above his official 10 ton rating. He's even picked up Kingpin.

Even if nemesis had the strength of spiderman, i doubt he has the muscle endurance.

@BringnIt:

He's even picked up Kingpin.

=O. End thread.

@BringnIt said:

If that is Nemesis's best strength feat, there's no comparison. Spider-Man has lifted a tank above his head, stabilized a building from collapsing and has numerous strength feats above his official 10 ton rating. He's even picked up Kingpin.

It depends what kind of tank it was, because many tanks weigh less than the bus Nemesis threw. And Kingpin weighs all of 450 lbs so how is that at all a feat? Spider-Man wasn't always a 10 ton rating on the strength scale - he was at one point 25 tons which is probably when the building stabilizing feat took place.

@Ohgawd Spider-Man lifted the tank over his head in a military press, which is far more impressive than pushing something in the manner Nemesis did. I'm not even going to bother responding to the Kingpin portion of your post.

@BringnIt said:

@Ohgawd Spider-Man lifted the tank over his head in a military press, which is far more impressive than pushing something in the manner Nemesis did. I'm not even going to bother responding to the Kingpin portion of your post.

Nemesis shoved a bus clear across the street while it was on its side which was constantly causing friction with the road before it landed on its wheels. That's more impressive than military pressing. Go to the gym and military press a bar and weights over your head, then get something of the same weight that's flat and put it on the pavement and push as hard as you can. You'll find that pushing something that heavy is far more difficult than lifting something of the same weight over your head.

                   

And Kingpin weighs all of 450 lbs so how is that at all a feat?

                    

               

@_Punk_ said:

@Ohgawd said:

And Kingpin weighs all of 450 lbs so how is that at all a feat?

You obviously have no idea what a joke is :/

Guess not.

Actually, I won't. I can easily push more along the pavement than I can military press, not even accounting to the fact a barbell is balanced whereas the tank he lifted would have a very awkward center of gravity. While pushing the bus was impressive (if you ignore the fact that the game designers obviously did not take into account the friction you mentioned based on the fact that the bus slid at a consistent speed and did not decelerate), it doesn't put him on Parker's level. Parker has numerous strength feats and Nemesis has one, and that's not even considering Parker has much greater turnover rate and various other factors that would yield better results in a wider variety of lifts (particularly Olympic lifts). Power lifting is a combination of both speed and strength, that's why proclaimed power lifting routines like Westside barbell focus on a light explosive day and also max effort days instead of one or the other.

@Ferro Vida said:

@Ohgawd: There is a huge difference between pushing something an lifting it. Even with the metal of the bus creating friction there are less forces working against Nemesis then there would be if he was attempting to lift that bus (ie, gravity not working against him). The world's strongest man was able to pull a school bus full of food ( http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/22/worlds-strongest-man-pulls-school-bus-filled-with-donated-food-at-elementary-school-in-waterbury/) The conditions are slightly different, but a human being as able to move a school bus. Obviously Nemesis is stronger by virtue of some of the specifics of his feat (pushing instead of pulling, no wheels), but unless you can produce a video of Nemesis lifting that bus there is nothing to suggest he is in Peter's strength class.

But there's also the difference (aside from what you mentioned) in that for strength pulling like with your example above, those guys have something attached to what they're moving and are continuously applying force against it while they're holding on to the rope. Nemesis gave the bus one quick shove and had no further contact with it, and yet it still went as far as it did.

@BringnIt said:

While pushing the bus was impressive (if you ignore the fact that the game designers obviously did not take into account the friction you mentioned based on the fact that the bus slid at a consistent speed and did not decelerate), it doesn't put him on Parker's level.

The developers did take that into account as you can see the sparks flying underneath the bus as it goes forward. Nemesis was just that strong that the bus didn't reach its deceleration point until it hit the car.

They may have attempted to take it into account, but they didn't do it well. When you exert force against something and there is friction hindering the object's progress but the force is not maintained, there will inherently be a deceleration. The more force, the longer it will take to stop, but that bus showed no signs of decelerating until it hit the car. It was a smooth, steady pace the entire time but the force was not constant.

Aside from the bus feat and multiple times of busting through walls either with his fists or tentacles, he doesn't have much. Now it's important to note that Nemesis wears an inhibitor suit that restricts his power and that when he removes it and morphs into his tentacle form (not the final form) he gets even stronger. Personally I'd put Nemesis anywhere from a 15 ton to 25 ton in strength (just imo).

Nemesis is better suited for durability battles since that's what he's demonstrated the most.

Spider-man. Better feats.

@Ohgawd:

Maybe it's just you hahahaha. I find pushing something far easier than military lifting the same amount of weight. Much easier.

Spiderman landslide

While I am glad Nemesis is finally getting some credit, Spider-Man has this. He consistently lifts 10+ tons.

Spider-Man.

Spiderman but barely. (he can lift stuff up to 8x his weight or more I think)

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: I believe the latest handbook entry listed him at "Class 15."

Whether or not that's to be taken literally, I do not know. But my point is that Spider-Man has a history of strength feats.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek:

8x his weight is probably like 1600lbs he can lift alot more than that.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: He can lift hundreds times of his own body weight.

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: @hyiena: @jashro44:

Then Spiderman wins this easily.

@Ohgawd: actually it happend before the power upgrade and a bus does not compare to the weight of the lightest known tanks plus spiderman is at 10 tons during the event of the queen story it increased to 15 tons and when he got killed by mourln andwent into a cocoon state (im not lying about that it goes by the theory that some spiders shed their skin) and another power increase that went to 25 tons but he does not have that now but hes still stronger than nemesis plus spiderman lifted buses in the past when his powers wernt as developed as they are now

@jashro44: Did my job for me. Nice scans :p

@Strider92: lol thanks

I love Nemmy, but as I've pointed out numerous times, his greatest strength feat is smashing through a wall when playing as Carlos. And even that literally took him a few solid swings before he got through. The strength of all Tyrants rests in their durability, the ability to continuously mutate so they basically never stay down for long. In strength, none of them are overly impressive.

@Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe said:

@god_spawn said:

Soooo what feats does Nemesis actually have to put him on Spider-Man's level?

If we count Operation Raccoon City he does have 1 strength feat. He pushes a downed city bus across the street to crush Jill and causes it to flip and land on its wheels. Now city buses range in weight but a large one like the one Nemesis threw can weight 28,000 - 40,000 lbs.

Skip to 15:56

Considering he was able to push this one that far while it was on its side as metal was creating friction with the ground the whole time it moved, I'd say Nemesis can lift much more than that.

Then again I'm not sure what Spider-Man's strength class is so I'm not sure how this feat compares to Spider-Man's displays of strength.

The tyrants are one thing ORC got right. That's how Nemesis SHOULD be, just a friggin unstoppable freight train. If you ask me they're far weaker in canon then they should be.

But even so, gat dayum. dat terrible voice.

@BringnIt said:

@Ohgawd Spider-Man lifted the tank over his head in a military press, which is far more impressive than pushing something in the manner Nemesis did. I'm not even going to bother responding to the Kingpin portion of your post.

That. Military press is all shoulder and triceps (two much smaller muscle groups that don't employ outside help as well.) A push, like a bench press takes the larger pectoral group plus shoulders and triceps. Spidey wins going away.

Um, how many of these feats are 616 Spiderman?