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#1 Posted by lordalif (6 posts) - - Show Bio

All of the watch men team agaisnt the well known people from the justice league (batman,wonderwomen,flash etc) not superman as i want it to be a fair fight

#2 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's see.

Nite Owl, Rorschach, Silk Spectre, Ozymandias and the Comedian would die in the first five seconds, Leaving Doctor Manhattan.

I'm not sure what the league could do to Manhattan, but I think Zatanna, Firestorm, Green Lantern and Black Lightning should beat him.

#3 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

There are tons of well known people in the Justice League. Be more specific.

#4 Posted by lordalif (6 posts) - - Show Bio

okay lets go with flash batman wonderwomen greenarrow green lantern and martian manhunter
btw rorscharch wouldnt die that easy he is to clever for that

#5 Posted by Trackz (982 posts) - - Show Bio

rorschach may be clever, no where near as smart/fast/strong as the rest of the JLA though, that goes for all of the members, the only ones who might pose a problem are ozymandias (Flash takes him out easily) and doctor manhattan, who I see green lantern and Martian Manhunter beating.

#6 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think we have a clear idea how Dr Manhattan would react to psionic attacks.

#7 Posted by lordalif (6 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr Manhattan has enough power to create a bas on mars with his mind i dont see him getting beat easily and i can see rorschach beating flash but not batman however overall i think it would be a really close one

#8 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol, this is basically a Justice league vs Dr. Manhattan battle.

#9 Posted by Fantasma Ghost (1452 posts) - - Show Bio
lordalif said:
"Dr Manhattan has enough power to create a bas on mars with his mind i dont see him getting beat easily and i can see rorschach beating flash but not batman however overall i think it would be a really close one"
You see Rorschach, beating Flash???   It is as AtPhantom said: JLA vs Dr. Manhattan.
#10 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
lordalif said:
"btw rorscharch wouldnt die that easy he is to clever for that"
He's not too clever for Batman to knock his @$$ out.

lordalif said:
"Dr Manhattan has enough power to create a bas on mars with his mind i dont see him getting beat easily and i can see rorschach beating flash but not batman however overall i think it would be a really close one"
Explain how Rorschach beats someone that moves and reacts hundreds of times faster than him. And, Dr. Manhattan didn't make a base on Mars with his mind. He did it through molecular manipulation. Other than that, he doesn't have a defense against telepathy and has never showed it in the graphic novel. Green Lantern (preferrably Hal Jordan) and Martian Manhunter can deal with him.

#11 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Manhattan wins, without him Watchmen lose horribly.

#12 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Dr. Manhattan wins."
Make a case.
#13 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio
Static Shock said:
"Nobody said:
"Dr. Manhattan wins."
Make a case.
"
He needs no physical body to hurt and can basically do whatever he wants. The only way I really see anybody doing anything to him is with magic, but even then we don't know how magic would effect him.
#14 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
Justice League could overpower Manhattan... the rest of The Watchmean are useless though
#15 Posted by Erik (31664 posts) - - Show Bio

He disincorporates everyone in the fight. 

#16 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"He needs no physical body to hurt and can basically do whatever he wants."
I bet telepathy would work.
#17 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio
Static Shock said:
"Nobody said:
"He needs no physical body to hurt and can basically do whatever he wants."
I bet telepathy would work.
"
Would it?
#18 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
And why cant this fight be taken to a Celestial level with the Phantom Stranger ?

Phantom Stranger could just summon The Spectre to erase Manhattan from existence...
#19 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Would it?"
Dr. Manhattan has a mind. Thus, it can work.
#20 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"And why cant this fight be taken to a Celestial level with the Phantom Stranger ?

Phantom Stranger could just summon The Spectre to erase Manhattan from existence...
"
Phantom Stranger isn't in the battle.
#21 Posted by Erik (31664 posts) - - Show Bio
Static Shock said:
"Nobody said:
"He needs no physical body to hurt and can basically do whatever he wants."
I bet telepathy would work.
"
Since he is kind of everywhere at once, I would think trying to telepathically control Dr. Manhattan would be like trying to grab water.
#22 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio
Static Shock said:
"Nobody said:
"Would it?"
Dr. Manhattan has a mind. Thus, it can work.
"
I think it depends on who's telepathy. Aquaman's only works on humans because they share a part of the brain with fish. As stated, Dr. M doesn't even have a brain if he chooses not to. So his telepathy couldn't work on him. I'm not sure how MM's work.
#23 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
Static Shock said:
"King Saturn said:
"And why cant this fight be taken to a Celestial level with the Phantom Stranger ?

Phantom Stranger could just summon The Spectre to erase Manhattan from existence...
"
Phantom Stranger isn't in the battle.
"
Yeah I see he made rosters inside the thread after the OP...

well now the JL will have a hard road ahead of them then...
#24 Posted by Erik (31664 posts) - - Show Bio

I still do not see how someone can control a mind that is not even really in the present time.

#25 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
So its basically Martian Manhunter versus Doc Manhattan... cause I dont think even Diana can hurt Manhattan... but maybe the GL and MM can do something
#26 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"So its basically Martian Manhunter versus Doc Manhattan... cause I dont think even Diana can hurt Manhattan... but maybe the GL and MM can do something
"
I'm not sure what a GL could do. Manhattan still has no body to hurt.
#27 Posted by Erik (31664 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
Since he is kind of everywhere at once, I would think trying to telepathically control Dr. Manhattan would be like trying to grab water."

#28 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"King Saturn said:
"So its basically Martian Manhunter versus Doc Manhattan... cause I dont think even Diana can hurt Manhattan... but maybe the GL and MM can do something
"
I'm not sure what a GL could do. Manhattan still has no body to hurt.
"
He could do more than WW, Green Arrow, Batman...

I think the GL probably could contain Manhattan for a while via Energy Constructs...
#29 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

But I don't see how, if there is nothing to contain.

#30 Posted by Erik (31664 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"King Saturn said:
"So its basically Martian Manhunter versus Doc Manhattan... cause I dont think even Diana can hurt Manhattan... but maybe the GL and MM can do something
"
I'm not sure what a GL could do. Manhattan still has no body to hurt.
"
He could do more than WW, Green Arrow, Batman...

I think the GL probably could contain Manhattan for a while via Energy Constructs...
"
But Dr. Manhattan's body is not really necessary for him. He could probably just float out of the constructs like he floats through anything else.
#31 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"But I don't see how, if there is nothing to contain.
"
Well Manhattan's body is still some form of Energy...

GLs have contained Energy Sources before in Solid Constructs...
#32 Posted by Erik (31664 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"But I don't see how, if there is nothing to contain.
"
Well Manhattan's body is still some form of Energy...

GLs have contained Energy Sources before in Solid Constructs...
"
His body is more like a puppet though. He could just fabricate another one if the first was contained. 
#33 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Manhattan could just form another body for himself if he wanted. At one point in the comic he had like 3 bodies all doing different tasks and wasn't struggling to remain focused.

#34 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
The GL could increase the size of the Energy Field Construct... to include the duplicate copies of Manhattan...
#35 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

Whats to stop Manhattan from destroying the construct? Or the ring?

#36 Posted by Erik (31664 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"The GL could increase the size of the Energy Field Construct... to include the duplicate copies of Manhattan...
"
So it is really a battle to see how many constructs Dr. Manhattan can make as opposed to how many Hal can make. 
#37 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Whats to stop Manhattan from destroying the construct? Or the ring?
"
MM's Telepathy could be a weapon here as the GL Contains him... I cant see Manhattan destroying the Ring but the Construct would eventually give out
#38 Posted by Nighthunter (28580 posts) - - Show Bio

so it's Manhattan vs the league pretty much right?

#39 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"Whats to stop Manhattan from destroying the construct? Or the ring?
"
MM's Telepathy could be a weapon here as the GL Contains him... I cant see Manhattan destroying the Ring but the Construct would eventually give out
"
As stated before, we aren't even sure if telepathy could work on Dr. M
#40 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"so it's Manhattan vs the league pretty much right?
"
Of course
#41 Posted by Erik (31664 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Dr. Manhattan can only be distracted. That is the Leagues best hope. 

#42 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"Whats to stop Manhattan from destroying the construct? Or the ring?
"
MM's Telepathy could be a weapon here as the GL Contains him... I cant see Manhattan destroying the Ring but the Construct would eventually give out
"
As stated before, we aren't even sure if telepathy could work on Dr. M
"
Why Not ? Didnt MM's Telepathy work on The Spectre at one point ?



#43 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"Whats to stop Manhattan from destroying the construct? Or the ring?
"
MM's Telepathy could be a weapon here as the GL Contains him... I cant see Manhattan destroying the Ring but the Construct would eventually give out
"
As stated before, we aren't even sure if telepathy could work on Dr. M
"
Why Not ? Didnt MM's Telepathy work on The Spectre at one point ?



"
I don't know.
#44 Posted by Erik (31664 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
Since he is kind of everywhere at once, I would think trying to telepathically control Dr. Manhattan would be like trying to grab water."

#45 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"But I don't see how, if there is nothing to contain.
"
Well Manhattan's body is still some form of Energy...

GLs have contained Energy Sources before in Solid Constructs...
"
If his body is energy why can the GL ring absorb him or at least his body?  the GL rings have absorbed or contained Quantum energy before.
#46 Posted by Nega-Patron (44 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think that the members of JL in this fight would be able to do much to Dr. Manhattan here...

#47 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Manhattan is a child. He would not be anywhere near prepared for a fight with the JLA. MM would ruin him. Look how easily he was manipulated by Ozymandias and the press without telepathy. He would probably freak and either teleport himself or his opponents away. He's a pretty non-confrontational guy when it comes down to it. Plus, he has no idea how super powers work, and there is quite a variety opposing him.

#48 Posted by Erik (31664 posts) - - Show Bio

Except when he was fighting in Vietnam. There was no freak outs there. Also, teleporting everyone away would be considered BFR which is still a win for Dr. Manhattan. 

#49 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

there is a lot of things DR. Manhattan can do with Quantum energy. he is a beefed up Capt Atom. instead of using his energy to destroy, he uses it for other things like bending reality.

#50 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
acewasp23 said:
"King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"But I don't see how, if there is nothing to contain.
"
Well Manhattan's body is still some form of Energy...

GLs have contained Energy Sources before in Solid Constructs...
"
If his body is energy why can the GL ring absorb him or at least his body?  the GL rings have absorbed or contained Quantum energy before.
"
Thats another Good Point