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#1  Edited By lordalif

All of the watch men team agaisnt the well known people from the justice league (batman,wonderwomen,flash etc) not superman as i want it to be a fair fight

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#2  Edited By AtPhantom

Let's see.

Nite Owl, Rorschach, Silk Spectre, Ozymandias and the Comedian would die in the first five seconds, Leaving Doctor Manhattan.

I'm not sure what the league could do to Manhattan, but I think Zatanna, Firestorm, Green Lantern and Black Lightning should beat him.

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#3  Edited By Static Shock

There are tons of well known people in the Justice League. Be more specific.

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#4  Edited By lordalif

okay lets go with flash batman wonderwomen greenarrow green lantern and martian manhunter
btw rorscharch wouldnt die that easy he is to clever for that

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#5  Edited By Trackz

rorschach may be clever, no where near as smart/fast/strong as the rest of the JLA though, that goes for all of the members, the only ones who might pose a problem are ozymandias (Flash takes him out easily) and doctor manhattan, who I see green lantern and Martian Manhunter beating.

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#6  Edited By the creator

I don't think we have a clear idea how Dr Manhattan would react to psionic attacks.

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#7  Edited By lordalif

Dr Manhattan has enough power to create a bas on mars with his mind i dont see him getting beat easily and i can see rorschach beating flash but not batman however overall i think it would be a really close one

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#8  Edited By AtPhantom

Lol, this is basically a Justice league vs Dr. Manhattan battle.

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#9  Edited By Fantasma Ghost
lordalif said:
"Dr Manhattan has enough power to create a bas on mars with his mind i dont see him getting beat easily and i can see rorschach beating flash but not batman however overall i think it would be a really close one"
You see Rorschach, beating Flash???   It is as AtPhantom said: JLA vs Dr. Manhattan.
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#10  Edited By Static Shock
lordalif said:
"btw rorscharch wouldnt die that easy he is to clever for that"
He's not too clever for Batman to knock his @$$ out.

lordalif said:
"Dr Manhattan has enough power to create a bas on mars with his mind i dont see him getting beat easily and i can see rorschach beating flash but not batman however overall i think it would be a really close one"
Explain how Rorschach beats someone that moves and reacts hundreds of times faster than him. And, Dr. Manhattan didn't make a base on Mars with his mind. He did it through molecular manipulation. Other than that, he doesn't have a defense against telepathy and has never showed it in the graphic novel. Green Lantern (preferrably Hal Jordan) and Martian Manhunter can deal with him.

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#11  Edited By The_Martian

Dr. Manhattan wins, without him Watchmen lose horribly.

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#12  Edited By Static Shock
Nobody said:
"Dr. Manhattan wins."
Make a case.
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#13  Edited By The_Martian
Static Shock said:
"Nobody said:
"Dr. Manhattan wins."
Make a case.
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He needs no physical body to hurt and can basically do whatever he wants. The only way I really see anybody doing anything to him is with magic, but even then we don't know how magic would effect him.
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#14  Edited By King_Saturn
Justice League could overpower Manhattan... the rest of The Watchmean are useless though
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#15  Edited By Erik

He disincorporates everyone in the fight. 

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#16  Edited By Static Shock
Nobody said:
"He needs no physical body to hurt and can basically do whatever he wants."
I bet telepathy would work.
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#17  Edited By The_Martian
Static Shock said:
"Nobody said:
"He needs no physical body to hurt and can basically do whatever he wants."
I bet telepathy would work.
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Would it?
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#18  Edited By King_Saturn
And why cant this fight be taken to a Celestial level with the Phantom Stranger ?

Phantom Stranger could just summon The Spectre to erase Manhattan from existence...
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#19  Edited By Static Shock
Nobody said:
"Would it?"
Dr. Manhattan has a mind. Thus, it can work.
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#20  Edited By Static Shock
King Saturn said:
"And why cant this fight be taken to a Celestial level with the Phantom Stranger ?

Phantom Stranger could just summon The Spectre to erase Manhattan from existence...
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Phantom Stranger isn't in the battle.
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#21  Edited By Erik
Static Shock said:
"Nobody said:
"He needs no physical body to hurt and can basically do whatever he wants."
I bet telepathy would work.
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Since he is kind of everywhere at once, I would think trying to telepathically control Dr. Manhattan would be like trying to grab water.
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#22  Edited By The_Martian
Static Shock said:
"Nobody said:
"Would it?"
Dr. Manhattan has a mind. Thus, it can work.
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I think it depends on who's telepathy. Aquaman's only works on humans because they share a part of the brain with fish. As stated, Dr. M doesn't even have a brain if he chooses not to. So his telepathy couldn't work on him. I'm not sure how MM's work.
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#23  Edited By King_Saturn
Static Shock said:
"King Saturn said:
"And why cant this fight be taken to a Celestial level with the Phantom Stranger ?

Phantom Stranger could just summon The Spectre to erase Manhattan from existence...
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Phantom Stranger isn't in the battle.
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Yeah I see he made rosters inside the thread after the OP...

well now the JL will have a hard road ahead of them then...
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#24  Edited By Erik

I still do not see how someone can control a mind that is not even really in the present time.

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#25  Edited By King_Saturn
So its basically Martian Manhunter versus Doc Manhattan... cause I dont think even Diana can hurt Manhattan... but maybe the GL and MM can do something
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#26  Edited By The_Martian
King Saturn said:
"So its basically Martian Manhunter versus Doc Manhattan... cause I dont think even Diana can hurt Manhattan... but maybe the GL and MM can do something
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I'm not sure what a GL could do. Manhattan still has no body to hurt.
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#27  Edited By Erik
erik said:
Since he is kind of everywhere at once, I would think trying to telepathically control Dr. Manhattan would be like trying to grab water."

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#28  Edited By King_Saturn
Nobody said:
"King Saturn said:
"So its basically Martian Manhunter versus Doc Manhattan... cause I dont think even Diana can hurt Manhattan... but maybe the GL and MM can do something
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I'm not sure what a GL could do. Manhattan still has no body to hurt.
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He could do more than WW, Green Arrow, Batman...

I think the GL probably could contain Manhattan for a while via Energy Constructs...
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#29  Edited By The_Martian

But I don't see how, if there is nothing to contain.

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#30  Edited By Erik
King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"King Saturn said:
"So its basically Martian Manhunter versus Doc Manhattan... cause I dont think even Diana can hurt Manhattan... but maybe the GL and MM can do something
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I'm not sure what a GL could do. Manhattan still has no body to hurt.
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He could do more than WW, Green Arrow, Batman...

I think the GL probably could contain Manhattan for a while via Energy Constructs...
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But Dr. Manhattan's body is not really necessary for him. He could probably just float out of the constructs like he floats through anything else.
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#31  Edited By King_Saturn
Nobody said:
"But I don't see how, if there is nothing to contain.
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Well Manhattan's body is still some form of Energy...

GLs have contained Energy Sources before in Solid Constructs...
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#32  Edited By Erik
King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"But I don't see how, if there is nothing to contain.
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Well Manhattan's body is still some form of Energy...

GLs have contained Energy Sources before in Solid Constructs...
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His body is more like a puppet though. He could just fabricate another one if the first was contained. 
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#33  Edited By The_Martian

Dr. Manhattan could just form another body for himself if he wanted. At one point in the comic he had like 3 bodies all doing different tasks and wasn't struggling to remain focused.

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#34  Edited By King_Saturn
The GL could increase the size of the Energy Field Construct... to include the duplicate copies of Manhattan...
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#35  Edited By The_Martian

Whats to stop Manhattan from destroying the construct? Or the ring?

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#36  Edited By Erik
King Saturn said:
"The GL could increase the size of the Energy Field Construct... to include the duplicate copies of Manhattan...
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So it is really a battle to see how many constructs Dr. Manhattan can make as opposed to how many Hal can make. 
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#37  Edited By King_Saturn
Nobody said:
"Whats to stop Manhattan from destroying the construct? Or the ring?
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MM's Telepathy could be a weapon here as the GL Contains him... I cant see Manhattan destroying the Ring but the Construct would eventually give out
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#38  Edited By Nighthunter

so it's Manhattan vs the league pretty much right?

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#39  Edited By The_Martian
King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"Whats to stop Manhattan from destroying the construct? Or the ring?
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MM's Telepathy could be a weapon here as the GL Contains him... I cant see Manhattan destroying the Ring but the Construct would eventually give out
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As stated before, we aren't even sure if telepathy could work on Dr. M
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#40  Edited By The_Martian
Nighthunter said:
"so it's Manhattan vs the league pretty much right?
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Of course
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#41  Edited By Erik

I think Dr. Manhattan can only be distracted. That is the Leagues best hope. 

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#42  Edited By King_Saturn
Nobody said:
"King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"Whats to stop Manhattan from destroying the construct? Or the ring?
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MM's Telepathy could be a weapon here as the GL Contains him... I cant see Manhattan destroying the Ring but the Construct would eventually give out
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As stated before, we aren't even sure if telepathy could work on Dr. M
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Why Not ? Didnt MM's Telepathy work on The Spectre at one point ?



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#43  Edited By The_Martian
King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"Whats to stop Manhattan from destroying the construct? Or the ring?
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MM's Telepathy could be a weapon here as the GL Contains him... I cant see Manhattan destroying the Ring but the Construct would eventually give out
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As stated before, we aren't even sure if telepathy could work on Dr. M
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Why Not ? Didnt MM's Telepathy work on The Spectre at one point ?



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I don't know.
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#44  Edited By Erik
erik said:
Since he is kind of everywhere at once, I would think trying to telepathically control Dr. Manhattan would be like trying to grab water."

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#45  Edited By acewasp23
King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"But I don't see how, if there is nothing to contain.
"
Well Manhattan's body is still some form of Energy...

GLs have contained Energy Sources before in Solid Constructs...
"
If his body is energy why can the GL ring absorb him or at least his body?  the GL rings have absorbed or contained Quantum energy before.
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#46  Edited By Nega-Patron

I don't think that the members of JL in this fight would be able to do much to Dr. Manhattan here...

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#47  Edited By Korg

Manhattan is a child. He would not be anywhere near prepared for a fight with the JLA. MM would ruin him. Look how easily he was manipulated by Ozymandias and the press without telepathy. He would probably freak and either teleport himself or his opponents away. He's a pretty non-confrontational guy when it comes down to it. Plus, he has no idea how super powers work, and there is quite a variety opposing him.

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#48  Edited By Erik

Except when he was fighting in Vietnam. There was no freak outs there. Also, teleporting everyone away would be considered BFR which is still a win for Dr. Manhattan. 

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#49  Edited By acewasp23

there is a lot of things DR. Manhattan can do with Quantum energy. he is a beefed up Capt Atom. instead of using his energy to destroy, he uses it for other things like bending reality.

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#50  Edited By King_Saturn
acewasp23 said:
"King Saturn said:
"Nobody said:
"But I don't see how, if there is nothing to contain.
"
Well Manhattan's body is still some form of Energy...

GLs have contained Energy Sources before in Solid Constructs...
"
If his body is energy why can the GL ring absorb him or at least his body?  the GL rings have absorbed or contained Quantum energy before.
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Thats another Good Point