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#1 Posted by beastmanX (285 posts) - - Show Bio

who wins?

#2 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Before Warpath got powered down I would have said he takes this easy. As things are now, I still think it would be a good fight. Cage probably has a bit of a strength/durability edge, but Warpath is a lot faster, has enhanced senses, and those vibranium knives. He's a surgeon with those things, and I think if he could manage to stick Cage with them he has a good chance of winning.

#3 Posted by Last_Guardian (28052 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke cage could take him..but this would be one great battle

#4 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

Warpath.

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#5 Posted by Sling Shot (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

I would go with Warpath as well. Has he been powered down since Xmen(SHiar arc) or Xforce? And to what levels?

#6 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Warpath has not been powered down since the Shi'ar arc, and X-Force is ongoing, so that should speak for itself (X-Force shows him at his current strength level). Like I said, good fight, but Cage is outclassed in speed and agility, and those vibranium blades Warpath has now should be able to penetrate even Luke's thick hide.

#7 Posted by Ebony Bishop (748 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm confused about the vibranium -- they pierce metal by their vibrations, right? Is it something to do with the molecules of metal? Because if so, they'd just be normal knives to Cage. But if they work on all substances, then yeah, Warpath for the win.

I just thought vibranium only affected metal.

#8 Posted by Slinger (7640 posts) - - Show Bio

If vibranium can pierce Luke's skin then Warpath wins, if not Luke Cage wins.

#9 Posted by lboy (525 posts) - - Show Bio

It cant so luke cage kicks his @$$!!!!!!

#10 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Warpath

#11 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

Slinger says:

"If vibranium can pierce Luke's skin then Warpath wins, if not Luke Cage wins."

You don't have to pierce Cage's skin to beat him.He can still sustain injuries that have nothing to do with cutting.

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#12 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Why can adamantium pierce his skin but not vibranium?

#13 Posted by beastmanX (285 posts) - - Show Bio

Korg says:

"Why can adamantium pierce his skin but not vibranium?"

there different types pf metals . different hardness

#14 Posted by beastmanX (285 posts) - - Show Bio

of*

#15 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

adamantium has different properties then vibranium,so they work differently,

Warpath wins

#16 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

Korg says:

"Why can adamantium pierce his skin but not vibranium?"

Adamantium is harder.

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#17 Posted by beastmanX (285 posts) - - Show Bio

now that i think about it i think that warpath wins too

#18 Posted by beastmanX (285 posts) - - Show Bio

now that i think about it i think that warpath wins too

#19 Posted by Ebony Bishop (748 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know...I'm not convinced that Warpath's fighting skills would automatically put him over Cage. Cage has more experience, and I would think a higher level of durability. It would certainly be a tough fight.

#20 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

Ebony Bishop says:

"I don't know...I'm not convinced that Warpath's fighting skills would automatically put him over Cage. Cage has more experience, and I would think a higher level of durability. It would certainly be a tough fight."

Warpath outclasses Cage in everything except strength and as we all know...X-men take training seriously.Warpath is a far better fighter than Cage...I mean he beatdown sentinel.

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#21 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Ebony Bishop says:

"I'm confused about the vibranium -- they pierce metal by their vibrations, right? Is it something to do with the molecules of metal? Because if so, they'd just be normal knives to Cage. But if they work on all substances, then yeah, Warpath for the win. I just thought vibranium only affected metal."

I depends on the type of vibranium. Wakandan type absorbs kinetic force, momentum, etc... Antarctic type generates vibrations that breaks down the molecules in all metals (except enchanted ones), causing it to break/cut through... Warpath's knives are made of vibranium, but I don't know which kind...

#22 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

can't warpath fly,heard that some where

#23 Posted by Ebony Bishop (748 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, I was just checking my Handbooks, and both are rated the same strength level. But Cage is two levels of durability higher than Warpath, and Warpath is two levels higher in fighting skills, and one level in speed. So I'll change my answer to Warpath, although it won't be an easy fight for him.

#24 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

T.J. Magnum says:

"can't warpath fly,heard that some where"

No,but he has great leaping ability.

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#25 Posted by Ebony Bishop (748 posts) - - Show Bio

He used to be able to fly, in the X-Force series, when Wisdom was leading it. I don't remember how he managed that, or why he doesn't now, but it was definitely flying.

I would assume that since the daggers were a gift from Storm, they must be Wakandan vibranium. It just seems easier for her to get.

#26 Posted by beastmanX (285 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah he used to be able to fly but that power just disappeared

#27 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

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#28 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

T.J. Magnum says:

"Vance Astro says:
"T.J. Magnum says:
"can't warpath fly,heard that some where"
No,but he has great leaping ability."
like hulk ?"

Yes.

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#29 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

well that adds another dimension,that will be a real problem for cage

#30 Posted by Ebony Bishop (748 posts) - - Show Bio

Vance Astro says:

"T.J. Magnum says:
"Vance Astro says:
"T.J. Magnum says:
"can't warpath fly,heard that some where"
No,but he has great leaping ability."
like hulk ?"

Yes."

Well, no, not really. He's not strong enough for that sort of leaping. And he hasn't been shown ever doing that. Myabe you're thinking of when he could fly.

#31 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

Vance Astro says:

"T.J. Magnum says:
"can't warpath fly,heard that some where"
No,but he has great leaping ability."

like hulk ?

#32 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Vance Astro says:

"T.J. Magnum says:
"Vance Astro says:
"T.J. Magnum says:
"can't warpath fly,heard that some where"
No,but he has great leaping ability."
like hulk ?"
Yes."

Ypup!

#33 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

Ebony Bishop says:

"Vance Astro says:
"T.J. Magnum says:
"Vance Astro says:
"T.J. Magnum says:
"can't warpath fly,heard that some where"
No,but he has great leaping ability."
like hulk ?"
Yes."
Well, no, not really. He's not strong enough for that sort of leaping. And he hasn't been shown ever doing that. Myabe you're thinking of when he could fly."

.......

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#34 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

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#35 Posted by beastmanX (285 posts) - - Show Bio

i remember reading somewhere that warpaths ability to fly was replaced with the ability to jump really far. in messiah complex, it appears he can either jump really far or he got his flight back.

#36 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Ebony Bishop says:

" I would assume that since the daggers were a gift from Storm, they must be Wakandan vibranium. It just seems easier for her to get."

Can't assume that. Wakandan scientists have effectively transmuted Wakandan type into Antarctic type, with the Antarctic type they have having the same properties as the Antarctic type in the Savage Land...

As far as I'm concerned, we don't really know. Unless someone can prove me otherwise...

#37 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

#38 Posted by Ebony Bishop (748 posts) - - Show Bio

beastmanX says:

"i remember reading somewhere that warpaths ability to fly was replaced with the ability to jump really far. in messiah complex, it appears he can either jump really far or he got his flight back."

Based on what? I don't remember him ever leaving the ground...he was with X-Force for Messiah Complex, and they were about stealth.

#39 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio
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#40 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

Lantern Prime says:

"Vance Astro says:
"Lantern Prime says:
"http://www.youtube.com/v/GhsA5TCjyJI&hl=en width=425 height=344 type=application/x-shockwave-flash>"
Why do you even bother posting?"
I feelz doing something boy!"

waste of space.

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#42 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Vance Astro says:

"Lantern Prime says:
"Vance Astro says:
"Lantern Prime says:
"http://www.youtube.com/v/GhsA5TCjyJI&hl=en width=425 height=344 type=application/x-shockwave-flash>"
Why do you even bother posting?"
I feelz doing something boy!"
waste of space."

Alright

#43 Posted by beastmanX (285 posts) - - Show Bio

Ebony Bishop says:

"beastmanX says:
"i remember reading somewhere that warpaths ability to fly was replaced with the ability to jump really far. in messiah complex, it appears he can either jump really far or he got his flight back."
Based on what? I don't remember him ever leaving the ground...he was with X-Force for Messiah Complex, and they were about stealth."

i know when he fought sentinals it seemed as though he could jump high or fly. same with the extremists story arc

#44 Posted by Ebony Bishop (748 posts) - - Show Bio

beastmanX says:

"Ebony Bishop says:
"beastmanX says:
"i remember reading somewhere that warpaths ability to fly was replaced with the ability to jump really far. in messiah complex, it appears he can either jump really far or he got his flight back."
Based on what? I don't remember him ever leaving the ground...he was with X-Force for Messiah Complex, and they were about stealth."

i know when he fought sentinals it seemed as though he could jump high or fly. same with the extremists story arc"

Ah, well, jumping on a sentinel is different than jumping like the Hulk. The Hulk jumps miles, a sentinel is maybe 50 feet tall.

#45 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

Ebony Bishop says:

"beastmanX says:
"Ebony Bishop says:
"beastmanX says:
"i remember reading somewhere that warpaths ability to fly was replaced with the ability to jump really far. in messiah complex, it appears he can either jump really far or he got his flight back."
Based on what? I don't remember him ever leaving the ground...he was with X-Force for Messiah Complex, and they were about stealth."
i know when he fought sentinals it seemed as though he could jump high or fly. same with the extremists story arc"
Ah, well, jumping on a sentinel is different than jumping like the Hulk. The Hulk jumps miles, a sentinel is maybe 50 feet tall. "

Your assuming that he couldn't jump higher than that....

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#46 Posted by Nitric (948 posts) - - Show Bio

Im Sorry To Say This, But I Think I'll Give This One To Luke.

I Mean, Warpath Might Have Better Training, But Training Isn't Everything. Experience Trumps Training Ever Time, And That's Something I Beleive Cage Has More Of.

Stronger + More Durable + Experience Is What Im Seeing On His Side. And Plus, All These Years Being Best Friends With The Iron Fist? Who Is Arguably The Best Fighter In The Business?

I Just Think That Luke Is Just A Little Higher On The Ladder. It Would Definitely Be An Epic Fight, But I Think Cage Wins This One.

#47 Posted by Nitric (948 posts) - - Show Bio

You Can Only Say That Through His Training. But Training Is Not Everything. It Never Has Been.

Put Some "Trained Fighter" Up Against Someone Who's Had A Real Life, A Hard One At That, Who's Actually Had To Fight. Alot. And Not Organized Fighting. Street Fighting. Life Or Death, Give It All You've Got Fighting.

Cage Is The Man For This One. He Has Way More Experience, And He's Fought Tougher People Before. Not Only That, But I Believe He Has The Heart.

So Again. Superior Strength + Superior Durability + Superior Experience = Luke Cage As The Winner In The End.

#48 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

Nitric says:

"Im Sorry To Say This, But I Think I'll Give This One To Luke. I Mean, Warpath Might Have Better Training, But Training Isn't Everything. Experience Trumps Training Ever Time, And That's Something I Beleive Cage Has More Of. Stronger + More Durable + Experience Is What Im Seeing On His Side. And Plus, All These Years Being Best Friends With The Iron Fist? Who Is Arguably The Best Fighter In The Business? I Just Think That Luke Is Just A Little Higher On The Ladder. It Would Definitely Be An Epic Fight, But I Think Cage Wins This One."

Iron Fist has taught Cage nothing.Almost anybody who is classified as an expert combatant could handle him if he wasn't so durable.Cage is outclassed in everything excpet for strength and Warpath is not only a better fighter but a smarter fighter.

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#49 Posted by Ebony Bishop (748 posts) - - Show Bio

Vance Astro says:

"Ebony Bishop says:
"beastmanX says:
"Ebony Bishop says:
"beastmanX says:
"i remember reading somewhere that warpaths ability to fly was replaced with the ability to jump really far. in messiah complex, it appears he can either jump really far or he got his flight back."
Based on what? I don't remember him ever leaving the ground...he was with X-Force for Messiah Complex, and they were about stealth."
i know when he fought sentinals it seemed as though he could jump high or fly. same with the extremists story arc"
Ah, well, jumping on a sentinel is different than jumping like the Hulk. The Hulk jumps miles, a sentinel is maybe 50 feet tall. "

Your assuming that he couldn't jump higher than that...."

No, you're assuming he can -- I'm basing my opinion off observed facts. He hasn't been shown to have Hulk-like jumping, and no one has claimed he can.

#50 Posted by Vance Astro (91416 posts) - - Show Bio

Nitric says:

"You Can Only Say That Through His Training. But Training Is Not Everything. It Never Has Been. Put Some "Trained Fighter" Up Against Someone Who's Had A *Real* Life, A Hard One At That, Who's Actually Had To Fight. Alot. And Not Organized Fighting. Street Fighting. Life Or Death, Give It All You've Got Fighting. Cage Is The Man For This One. He Has Way More Experience, And He's Fought Tougher People Before. Not Only That, But I Believe He Has The Heart. So Again. *Superior* Strength + *Superior* Durability + *Superior* Experience = Luke Cage As The Winner In The End."

That's complete false.Training means almost everything in Marvel.She-Hulk was unable to beat the Champion of the Universe the first time around.She went and trained further and than beat him with relative easy.Iron Fist who is considered one of Marvel's best fighters has had extensive training as well as people like Wolverine.

Street Fighting doesn't make you a good fighter because there are no trained combatants on the streets.

Experience means nothing and neither does strength and durabilty...Spider-Man proves that on almost a daily basis.

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