War Machine vs Steel

Both suits are at full power. Who wins?

War Machine would beat Steel

Steel easy.

"Steel easy."

Man, this thread's too early! War Machine is getting a huge power up soon. Currently War Machine at full power I'm pretty sure would smoke steel anyway though. Are we counting his S.S.O.N.E. suit? Cause that one would totally wreck him.

"Nobody said:

"Steel easy."

How ? Steel doesnt really have Superman level Strength or Speed here. I think War Machine's Tech would really give him the Advantage here
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War Machine....CURBSTOMP.

"War Machine....CURBSTOMP."

With prep, Steel can win.

War Machine.OVERKILL.

What is War Machine's suit like at full power?

"What is War Machine's suit like at full power?"

At full power, Steel can install the Watchtower security systems and use it as his armor. Which includes full remote control of all weapons in the Watchtower.

But if that is enough, I don't know.

Steel seems to be underestimated...he could take war machine.

"Steel seems to be underestimated...he could take war machine."

i didnt think steel was that powerful to compete against ppl like ironman or war machine

Steel beat Eradicator, he'll handle War Machine

then they should really change his physical stats

"Steel beat Eradicator, he'll handle War Machine"

"Steel beat Eradicator, he'll handle War Machine"

it was the first appearance of both, I doubt that it can be counted as bad writing

"it was the first appearance of both, I doubt that it can be counted as bad writing"

"it was the first appearance of both, I doubt that it can be counted as bad writing"

If at full power wouldn't Steel have aegis armor ?

"Nighthunter said:

"it was the first appearance of both, I doubt that it can be counted as bad writing"

Okay... I will give you that... but from what has been stated later on Steel is hardly a 100 ton strength character... "

"King Saturn said:

"Nighthunter said:

"it was the first appearance of both, I doubt that it can be counted as bad writing"

Okay... I will give you that... but from what has been stated later on Steel is hardly a 100 ton strength character... "

which would still be stronger than War machine"

ain't Tony's last armor level 80? how come war machine's is better?

"ain't Tony's last armor level 80? how come war machine's is better?"

I could be wrong though, who knows

"I could be wrong though, who knows"

"ain't Tony's last armor level 80? how come war machine's is better?"

Steel

War Machine.

Eradicator may have been powered-up after the battle, even so he was stronger than Superboy

"Eradicator may have been powered-up after the battle, even so he was stronger than Superboy"

I don't think it is, PIS would be for Steel to beat Eradicator now. If both were established on similar power levels but one was powered-up over time while the other wasn't, that doesn't make it PIS to beat him before the power-up

"I don't think it is, PIS would be for Steel to beat Eradicator now. If both were established on similar power levels but one was powered-up over time while the other wasn't, that doesn't make it PIS to beat him before the power-up"

During "The return of the Supermen" Steel, Eradicator, Superboy and Cyborg Superman were introduced, except for Cyborg Superman none of them were a superman power level, over time writers started to power-up Eradicator, making him more of a threat to Superman.

In his first appearance while he still had all of his powers, Eradicator wasn't able to beat Steel, yet he could still level buildings and showed a few feats, beating Eradicator is still a feat but not one as great as beating him on his current power levels

"During "The return of the Supermen" Steel, Eradicator, Superboy and Cyborg Superman were introduced, except for Cyborg Superman none of them were a superman power level, over time writers started to power-up Eradicator, making him more of a threat to Superman.

In his first appearance while he still had all of his powers, Eradicator wasn't able to beat Steel, yet he could still level buildings and showed a few feats, beating Eradicator is still a feat but not one as great as beating him on his current power levels"

Steel is the better, more interesting character. He has a cooler backstory, better costume and more unique personality. He's nobody's sidekick, and no matter what you say, "iron man's sidekick" is all war machine was ever supposed to be. They can mess around with the character all they want, he's still just a poor man's iron man,  

Steel is the better, more interesting character. He has a cooler backstory, better costume and more unique personality. He's nobody's sidekick, and no matter what you say, "iron man's sidekick" is all war machine was ever supposed to be. They can mess around with the character all they want, he's still just a poor man's iron man,  

Steel wins. Didn't steel took on metallo?

Steel's full power armor would technically be the JLA Moon Base(which he used as armor against Triumph. (Unless he got a stronger armor I don't know about.)

Assuming he's in his normal armor, I don't know enough about War Machine's best armor to really say, Steel's hammer is versatile as heck and probably could rip through most suits but I honestly can't think of many durability feats for him. (He did survive a hit from Triumph who IIRC was Superman level during said fight, but it trashed his armor)

@DcMarvelUnity said:

Steel is the better, more interesting character. He has a cooler backstory, better costume and more unique personality. He's nobody's sidekick, and no matter what you say, "iron man's sidekick" is all war machine was ever supposed to be. They can mess around with the character all they want, he's still just a poor man's iron man,

Rhodey's armor was created for the sole purpose of being Iron Man's partner, not his sidekick. Rhodey actually took over as Iron Man (while Tony relapsed with alcoholism), wearing the War Machine suit for the first time. At that point, Rhodey didn't even start out as a sidekick, but he filled in the role of another superhero.

@Decoy Elite: I remember that fight. Steel was getting his can kicked.

@terry2012: Metallo isn't that strong.

@Static Shock: Until he used the Moon Base as his armor, of course by the point the fight might as well have been over.

@ vanceastro - I disagree. I mean, if we go back far enough, we could say every technologically driven super hero is a just a more human version of the original human torch. Ignoring the single, obvious similarity between Steel and Iron Man - that being they fly in super-powered suits of armor - and moving to other defining character traits, we've got John Henry Irons, a steel-drivin' - man vs drunk rich kid tony stark and his buddy James Rhodes. 
 

@Decoy Elite said:

@Static Shock: Until he used the Moon Base as his armor, of course by the point the fight might as well have been over.

I don't remember that part.

@Static Shock said:

@Decoy Elite said:

@Static Shock: Until he used the Moon Base as his armor, of course by the point the fight might as well have been over.

I don't remember that part.

After he got stomped the first go, Steel survived and went through the duct system of the JLA base. He reached some control room, and basically used the entire base as his "armor"(IIRC he said the whole base was his armor) and slammed Triumph around before Spectre came into the picture.

@DcMarvelUnity said:

Steel is the better, more interesting character. He has a cooler backstory, better costume and more unique personality. He's nobody's sidekick, and no matter what you say, "iron man's sidekick" is all war machine was ever supposed to be. They can mess around with the character all they want, he's still just a poor man's iron man,

Rhodey's armor was created for the sole purpose of being Iron Man's partner, not his sidekick. Rhodey actually took over as Iron Man (while Tony relapsed with alcoholism), wearing the War Machine suit for the first time. At that point, Rhodey didn't even start out as a sidekick, but he filled in the role of another superhero.