@isaac_clarke said:
@Laurcus said:
@semaeuldel said:
We need to wait to see how powerful the Horsemen are when all of the seals are broken. We've only seen them at a fraction of their power
Actually, it's the opposite. The Horsemen are powered up by the existence of the Seven Seals.
Seems slightly contradicting to what happened after the final seal was broken at the end of the game - that more or less removed the restrictions of power placed on War by the council and brought him back from the dead - clearly more powerful than the entirety of the game.
And we do see War's maximum power, it's why he's so strong at the start of Darksiders. Max health, max Chaoseater, infinite Chaos Form, and just look how far you can throw cars, like seriously, you lose sight of them you can throw them so far.
You don't have max health at the start of Darksiders - game-play wise War is more powerful at the end of the game than at the start. And right from the beginning War is finding his power level dropping - namely why he 'dies'.
I'm gonna keep this spoiler free, but someone mentions this in Darksiders 2, when he tells Death that he doesn't fear him because he no longer rides with the power of the Seven Seals. So under the conditions specified, War and Death wouldn't have those powers. But even if they did, by feats alone Kratos and the Greek gods are MUCH more powerful than anything in Darksiders 2.
Most of the Greek Gods go down like punks, statues falling on them - heavily wounding them, snapping their knecks like twigs or a chariot crash has them unable to fight back as Kratos yanks their heads off. Really the most powerful of the three are Hades, Poseidon and Zeus - none of which having done anything that makes me say War wouldn't have slaughtered them at low power.
@isaac_clarke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TuRo_0RhLw Look at the devastation Zeus causes. No one that we've seen in Darksiders could match that kind of power with a single blow. Yet with still only a fraction of his power, Kratos murders Zeus with his bare hands at the end of God of War 3.
That was the blade in question rather than Zeus. And all it only had the ability to vaporize nobodies - leaving their armor / weapons in-tact. Zeus has better showings than that to pull from.
Zeus at the end of God of War 3 easily snapped Kratos' neck going all astral form on him - the problem is Kratos has the plot power of hope and that allowed him to beat Zeus to death.
Sounds like you need to play Darksiders again. :) Right at the start of the game, before the Charred Council blows the horn and reduces War's power, he has a fully maxed out health bar, a maxed Chaoseater, and most importantly, infinite Chaos Form. The only thing War has at the end of Darksiders 1 that he didn't at the start is the Armageddon Blade, Abyssal Armor and more Wrath Powers. And I'd trade all that for infinite Chaos form in an instant.
Have you beaten Darksiders 2? Because I'm trying to be sensitive to spoilers, and I want to make a point about why the Seventh Seal brought War back, but I would need to reference the end of DS2. Also, spoiler for the start of Darksiders 2, the Seven Seals have existed since the Nephilim were created, they were what allowed the Four Horsemen to single handedly slaughter the entire Nephilim invasion. And they have never been broken before the end of Darksiders.
You are right though that some of the other gods went down like chumps. And you're also right that Zeus does have a lot of other feats to pull from. Destroying Sparta, owning Gaia, etc. And yeah, Hope is OP, so is the Blade, imagine Kratos using both at the same time, and that's my argument for why he would win.
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