Wally West vs Photon

Gotta disagree. she can attack with invisible rays from nearly any distance. or even from the air. and i think she has more instances of moving at light speed then Flash does. Flash normally isn't moving or reacting at light speed. Monica is

He has seen and actually physically grabbed invisible, light speed beings made of electromagnetic energy, actually.

@pooty: Wally has speed stolen energy beings before. And if your implication is that she would outreact him then I would disagree. What are her fasted reaction times? In the Era of Wally West, being a lightspeeder is not going to be enough to put him down. As Dredeuced said (which I didn't know admittedly) he has physically grabbed energy beings. I knew he's speed stolen them though.

@dredeuced: @pooty

Ahh yes, Krakkl. Slipped my mind.

@wardemon32: @supermanwithatan01:

Wally can grab invisible energy??? WHAT THE FUK CAN'T HE DO??!!! lol

@pooty:

There's a lot of things he can't do. Like losing to Photon lol

@pooty: well.. he can't matter more than Barry Allen to Geoff Johns if that counts.

Hey man, I didn't write it. Take it up with Grant Morrison. Krakkl was a lightspeed being made of radio waves(a type of electromagnetic energy), and his people are invisible due to their nature (when they came to Earth no one could see them but Wally). Wally could not only see him, he could physically grab his hand and pull him out of a black hole.

@dredeuced: Wally pulled an energy being moving at lightspeed out of a Black Hole... that's like Silver Age Fate stuff right there lol. Do you have any scana of Wally speedstealing/lending energy beings. I think Zoom and Uberhikari posted some a couple years ago but I can't remember the thread

How does the speed steal work? Does he have to near someone?

He's manipulated the speed of electrons and the JL teleporter beams. I do not remember him specifically manipulating the speed of a being composed only of energy. That's a relatively rare occurrence. He miiiight have done it to an elemental at one point in a team book, but I can't recall the issue and if said elemental had a physical body or not so forgive me on that part.

If you wanted to get really creative about it you could just have Wally vibrate himself to a wavelength that disperses energy and then have him run into Monica, kind of like he did with Superman and Martian Manhunter's respective beams. I have no clue what would actually happen to Monica but there's a dozen ways Wally could dick with her if you want to go by feats.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!! lol

WALLY IS GOD!!

I do not see how Wally grabbing Krakkl or Cobalt Blue makes him god. He has just done lots of stuff that happens to line up with weird hypothetical battles like this one.

@pooty: ik dudes powers were insane.

@dredeuced: #damn lol thanks for the knowledge man.

@dredeuced: it isn't so much that. Its the accumulation of his power/speed/reaction/etc feats and potential at which he could have used them without PIS/WIS. Making him one tough SOB to put down. I'm pretty positive the he's a god reference is kinda stating how bad ass he was. Kind of, "damn.. what can't he do?" In the most rhetorical sense.

You're the resident Flash expert though so I mean you gotta enjoy liking a character that is as potentally powerful and cool as West.

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