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#1  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

wally west the best flash
wally west the best flash

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one of my fave marvel heroe nova
one of my fave marvel heroe nova

  • Morals is off
  • Fight to death
  • The fight takes place on a uninhibited planet
  • Who wins and why?
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#2  Edited By FLCL1

wally
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#3  Edited By TheFlash4740

Feats of Nova?

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#4  Edited By Pharoh_Atem
@TheFlash4740:
nova a class 100 travel faster than the speed of light durabily like the time he took a blast from near point blank range from big g wich destroyed over 3 solar system and energy blast strong enough to destroy planets
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#5  Edited By hydrabob--defunct
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
" nova a class 100 travel faster than the speed of light durabily like the time he took a blast from near point blank range from big g wich destroyed over 3 solar system and enrgy blast strong enough to destroy planets "
considering that and the fact that morals are off, it's fight to the death and Wally can't fly I say Nova has this.
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#6  Edited By MarvelJackAss433
@hydrabob: Wally can fly.
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#7  Edited By PirateKing69

Flash should win if i remember Nova doesn't have the reflexes to counter Flash

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#8  Edited By hydrabob--defunct
@MarvelJackAss433:  do you mean if he has the blue lantern ring cuz that doesn't count, and if you mean without it then when has he ever displayed that, and how fast can he go?
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#9  Edited By MarvelJackAss433
@hydrabob: Barry span his arms and managed to keep up with supes in flight,by ABC Wally should be much faster.
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@MarvelJackAss433: thats flawed ABC feats apply to the person that does them not to someone who has similar powers. Barry (as he generates the Speed Force) could be more in tuned with it giving him abilities that Bart and Wally don't have, but slowing him down as well.
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#11  Edited By MarvelJackAss433
@hydrabob: WTF?Your telling me Flash and another Flash DON'T have similar powers?
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@MarvelJackAss433: I'm saying they have similar powers but not the exact same powers. Do all Supermen have the same powers? (the answer is no)
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#13  Edited By MarvelJackAss433
@hydrabob: Superman and Superboy and Power Girl and Super Girl and Krypto ALL have the same powers,just on different levels.
Wally is FASTER then Barry,it's an official fact.There power Is SPEED,nothing else but what they can do with it.
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@MarvelJackAss433 said:
" @hydrabob: Superman and Superboy and Power Girl and Super Girl and Krypto ALL have the same powers,just on different levels. Wally is FASTER then Barry,it's an official fact.There power Is SPEED,nothing else but what they can do with it. "
first stop yelling i'm in a Library.
 
all of there powers are the same but how they apply them are different (and i was refering to Superman the person not everyone that is kryptonian)
Barry may be able to apply the Speed Force in ways that Wally can't, that doesn't make Barry faster.
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@dccomicsrule2011 said:

"nova a class 100 travel faster than the speed of light durabily like the time he took a blast from near point blank range from big g wich destroyed over 3 solar system and enrgy blast strong enough to destroy planets "


Hes also resistant to telepathy 
 
If morals are off he wormholes through the planet and destroys it from the other side not sure any flash can live without air 
 
EDIT 
 
Like in the fight with quasar my answer of who wins depends on how far apart they start 
if under 1km flash 100% 
if under 10km flash 75% 
if under 20km 50/50 
if over 40km Nova 100% 
 
All those are assuming Flash needs air to live
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#16  Edited By TheFlash4740

Nova Reaction time feat?
 
Whats his defense on Speed Steal if He cant React fast enough.
 
Combat speed feat? Travel speed is Different.
 
Physical Durability? Energy attacks are Different. A lot of people can Have a bomb blow up in there face, but still get KO'd buy a punch.

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#17  Edited By nefarious

Wally wins. 

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#18  Edited By idukid


@TheFlash4740
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"Nova Reaction time feat?  Whats his defense on Speed Steal if He cant React fast enough.  Combat speed feat? Travel speed is Different.  Physical Durability? Energy attacks are Different. A lot of people can Have a bomb blow up in there face, but still get KO'd buy a punch. "


I just spent some time looking through my nova stuff mainly volume 4 
 
Reaction time 

 
 

He was able to block Cancerverse Quasar's attack which is as fast as regular Quasar and i believe all cancerverse people are bloodlusted. (or at the verly least more powerful) 
 

 
 

Not sure on speedsteal 
 
His ability to take energy attacks is due to putting shields up they work on physical attacks. 
 
As to without shields  
 

 
 

 
 
 
 
 She is a strontian and is at high-full confidence(she is gladiators cousin) and he is taking the hits prety well.
 
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#19  Edited By TheFlash4740
  • That Reaction Feat was Pitiful. Considering Flash Went around  searching a Giant group of people for 2, found them, and Put them in the path of a GL Blast While it was basically Standing still. All of this in a Picosecond.
  • And Flash hits harder than Gladiator. So that's Irrelevant.
 
Still not seeing Evidence here Of Him being able to React to Flash. Or hit him. FTL Combat speed?
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#20  Edited By mk111

Really close fight...I guess in the end I'll go with Flash. But still, close fight.
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with morals off Nova blows up the planet and wally can do nothing but watch

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#22  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Wally, easily.

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#23  Edited By TheFlash4740
@hydrabob said:
" with morals off Nova blows up the planet and wally can do nothing but watch "
What makes you think he would even get the Chance to even Think that?
 
Light>Thought. 
 
Prove Nova can React to Wally's Blitz.
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#24  Edited By Xavier St. Cloud

Nova has the flight advantage... And the breathing in space advantage... What is Wally going to do?
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#25  Edited By PirateKing69
@Xavier St. Cloud said:
" Nova has the flight advantage... And the breathing in space advantage... What is Wally going to do? "
this fight doesn't start in space so that wont matter..unless stated by op they both should be on the ground at the start of the match...so unless Nova has enough reaction he cant win 
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#26  Edited By TheFlash4740
@Xavier St. Cloud said:
" Nova has the flight advantage... And the breathing in space advantage... What is Wally going to do? "
Run up and Vibrate his fingers through his face.
 
Prove Nova can Even think to fly before he does that
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#27  Edited By idukid

Hmm the caviot may be the fight to the death. 
  
Asuming 1 IMP doesnt kill him but only knocks him out and WM is stil lable to gain control of his body that may be an advantage. worldmind best describes is a supercomputer residing in his brain. Picto-second reaction should not be a problem for such a computer and neither would be using 100% of the nova force. 
 
if 1 imp would kill him though no chance

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#28  Edited By TheFlash4740
@idukid said:
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Hmm the caviot may be the fight to the death. 
  
Asuming 1 IMP doesnt kill him but only knocks him out and WM is stil lable to gain control of his body that may be an advantage. worldmind best describes is a supercomputer residing in his brain. Picto-second reaction should not be a problem for such a computer and neither would be using 100% of the nova force. 
 
if 1 imp would kill him though no chance

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1 IMP? If morals are off. Whats stopping him from 50 IMPs at once? When he KOd the Martian he said he could hit him a Thousand times before he could blink. (Now dont forget, the martian was moving at incredible speeds, Wally was catching up to him) Fast Punches if u ask me. 
 
But vibrating through him Would just end it immediately.
 
Wally was the work horse behind Tricking a Super Computer from the 853rd Century (Solaris), which, Puts the Worldmind to shame.  Anything it thinks, Wally will have thought it before hand, along with Thousands of other Scenarios.
 

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Nova has a Badass Costume btw....
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#29  Edited By idukid
@TheFlash4740 said:
" @idukid said:
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Hmm the caviot may be the fight to the death. 
  
Asuming 1 IMP doesnt kill him but only knocks him out and WM is stil lable to gain control of his body that may be an advantage. worldmind best describes is a supercomputer residing in his brain. Picto-second reaction should not be a problem for such a computer and neither would be using 100% of the nova force. 
 
if 1 imp would kill him though no chance

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1 IMP? If morals are off. Whats stopping him from 50 IMPs at once? When he KOd the Martian he said he could hit him a Thousand times before he could blink. (Now dont forget, the martian was moving at incredible speeds, Wally was catching up to him) Fast Punches if u ask me. 
 
But vibrating through him Would just end it immediately.
 
Wally was the work horse behind Tricking a Super Computer from the 853rd Century (Solaris), which, Puts the Worldmind to shame.  Anything it thinks, Wally will have thought it before hand, along with Thousands of other Scenarios.
 

 
 
Nova has a Badass Costume btw...."

Mainly that once RIders brain shuts off from the impact worldmind can take over the body. Im not sure how the body would hold up but worldminds reactions could concievebly be up there with the Flash. 
 
But if you think thats a sick costume heres novaquasar 
 

 
 

I truly dont know though I can concievebly see flash win this fight it doesnt seem as out there to me as him beating quasar :D
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#30  Edited By deathlife

If the fight is on the ground, Wally wins.
 
However, if Nova is in the air, Nova wins.
 
Flash can glide in the air, he can't fly (in the very recent Green Lantern, in the fight between Hal and Parallax flash, Hal simply lifted Barry off the ground and he was disadvantaged).

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#31  Edited By Billy Batson

Wally

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#32  Edited By ThaMessenger07

Hmm Probably Wally since the op didn't specify a starting point I am assuming they are on the ground face to face lol 
If Nova is in the Air then hes Gone, He will hit Trans Light Speeds and Blast the Planet from out of orbit. 
 
Yes Nova Does have a BAMF Costume!  lol
 

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So Does Wally When Drawn Properly :D
 

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#33  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

wally wins

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nova puts a gravity lock on him and mass punches him... or he opens a stargate inside wally... flash loses

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#36  Edited By dondave

@sirnicktheepic: He'd need to be able to register Wally's presence to do so.

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Idk Nova that well, so clearly Wally stomps hard.

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#42  Edited By Darkgenex

Idk Nova that well, so clearly Wally stomps hard.

lololol, vine logic at its finest.

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Nova would never even be able to come close to touching Flash

Wally wins easily

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Nova would never even be able to come close to touching Flash

Wally wins easily

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Ends in becoming best friends.

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Wally takes this.

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