#1 Edited by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

No prep, both bloodlusted, win by KO.

#2 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

BUMP

#3 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally West.

#4 Posted by Pwok21 (2249 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Wally West.
#5 Posted by Lady_Liberty (8211 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally via speed steel.

He can turn J'onn into a statute before J'onn even knows he's fighting.

#6 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#7 Posted by The_Thunderer (2894 posts) - - Show Bio

How can Wally not win?

#8 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lady_Liberty: @ImTheDamnBatman: @Pwok21: @The_Thunderer said:

How can Wally not win?

This is a spite battle.

#9 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

How precisely does speed steal work?

#10 Edited by 0n1zuka (3715 posts) - - Show Bio
@BringnIt:
#11 Posted by menaceforever (3696 posts) - - Show Bio

MM wins this

#12 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@Lady_Liberty: @ImTheDamnBatman: @Pwok21: @The_Thunderer said:

How can Wally not win?

This is a spite battle.

This is a pretty bad spite battle.

#13 Edited by YoggSaron (812 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@majestic99 said:

@Lady_Liberty: @ImTheDamnBatman: @Pwok21: @The_Thunderer said:

How can Wally not win?

This is a spite battle.

This is a pretty bad spite battle.

I know, it really pales compared to the other seven he made on purpose today.

#14 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

@0n1zuka But does it just halt physical movement or does it also effect his mental faculties (i.e., telepathy, thought processes, etc.)?

#15 Posted by 0n1zuka (3715 posts) - - Show Bio
@BringnIt: I believe it just halts physical movement, like when Wally turned Inertia into a living statue. Inertia could still hear, see, and think normally.
#16 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6164 posts) - - Show Bio

Speed steal would not stop the Martian from shutting down Wally's mind.

I do not understand why this would be a Spite battle ... the Martian Manhunter's got this IMO.

#17 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, unless Wally can one shot him he should get mind raped if the speed still doesn't impact mental abilities.

#18 Posted by Almighty_Darkseid (1724 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Wally West.
#19 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9416 posts) - - Show Bio
@Super_SoldierXII:  
Because Wally can still hit him 1000's of times before MM can react...
#20 Posted by marvelfanboy (509 posts) - - Show Bio

@BringnIt said:

Yeah, unless Wally can one shot him he should get mind raped if the speed still doesn't impact mental abilities.

Wally can hit MM 1,000 times before MM even knows who he's fighting....

#21 Posted by Cochise (707 posts) - - Show Bio

As Wally is speed stealing MM,MM goes intangible and mindscrews Wally. The speed steal is NOT instantaneous when being done against someone with a ridiculously high level of baseline speed, as the scan above shows.

#22 Posted by Dextersinister (5755 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure how fast the MM is but Wally is highly resistant to telepathy.

#23 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Wally West.
#24 Posted by FourthDeity (2234 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Wally West.
#25 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally West

#26 Posted by marvelfanboy (509 posts) - - Show Bio

@FourthDeity said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Wally West.

@jeanroygrant said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Wally West.

Explain reasoning.

#27 Posted by Saren (25272 posts) - - Show Bio

This could really go either way. When the Joker took control of Barry and J'onn via Kanjar Ro's sceptre, they were bloodlusted and he made them fight, and it looked to be pretty even.......

However, bloodlust is willingness to kill, not willingness to indulge in out of character behavior (that would be morals off). J'onn has shut down Wally's mind while moving once, in Ghosts of Mars (scan also shows how he deals with the Martian's intangibility):

BUT, Wally is capable of accelerating the speed of his thoughts to block telepathy. Barry used the same technique to block the Black Lantern J'onn in Blackest Night #2.

Wally needs to be prepared against J'onn's telepathy, but given that his base and maximum speeds are so much higher than J'onn's it shouldn't him take very long to accelerate his thoughts before J'onn tries a telepathic assault, especially if Flash knows who his opponent is (he's fought J'onn several times, he should know that telepathy is a b!tch by now). I'd say morals off Wally would beat J'onn silly, but if it's just bloodlust J'onn's chances aren't bad.

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#28 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@marvelfanboy said:

@FourthDeity said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Wally West.

@jeanroygrant said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Wally West.

Explain reasoning.

Wally West via speed-blitz.

#29 Posted by velle37 (6041 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally.

#30 Posted by nickzambuto (12839 posts) - - Show Bio

@Super_SoldierXII said:

Speed steal would not stop the Martian from shutting down Wally's mind.

I do not understand why this would be a Spite battle ... the Martian Manhunter's got this IMO.

As said, Flash can hit MM with a thousand IMP's in a second. Even if he tries mindrape before that happens, Flash's resistence to telepathy should let him hold out long enough to finish what he started. Intangability likewise won't work, since Flash can vibrate MM's molecules back into physical form.

#31 Posted by teepe8 (55 posts) - - Show Bio

so this is an amatuer question, but are wally's thinking patterns superspeeded?

cant mm read his mind as he's about to start running and turn intangible?

#32 Posted by nickthedevil (11543 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally's too fast for that. J'onn in the scan above was fighting Barry. Wally is faster. Wally beats MM easily.

#33 Posted by TDK_1997 (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally West.