Wally West (SpeedForce) vs Alan Scott (StarHeart)

Wally West IMO.

I'll go with Wally because it takes sooo looong, seems sooo slooow to hiiim (even if that song is technically about Barry Allen).

Alan Scott gets speedblitzed. He's way too slow compared to Wally West with full Speed Force.

Easy win for Alan. In blood lusted state he could fight Wally from the fat side of the universe, or another dimension. Speed does you no good against someone who can be in multiple places at a time, who can change the flow of time (like Zoom ). The below is a few scans of a "bloodlusted" Alan Scot

As soon as I find the scans where Alan (he was with Zauriel) changed the flow of time so that the planet around them went through 10,000 years in the time it took the two of them to fly a few km's I'll load them too. In his first 30 seconds of prep he'll do that and Wally will be as slow as watching grass grow at 1000x light speed. Wally wont even be able to steal Alan's speed since it's not "speed" he's using

@beatboks1: Nice post, completely agree with you here.

Could you please write the names of the issues of the scans of Alan?

This goes to Flash. Alan doesn't have any defensive feats to stop Wally and no offensive feats to get to Wally first.

I'll go with Wally because it takes sooo looong, seems sooo slooow to hiiim (even if that song is technically about Barry Allen).

I'll go with Wally because it takes sooo looong, seems sooo slooow to hiiim (even if that song is technically about Barry Allen).

well after seeing alan give the jla and the jsa hell recently i would say that alan wins.

@Supermanwithatan01 said:

This goes to Flash. Alan doesn't have any defensive feats to stop Wally and no offensive feats to get to Wally first.

Flash speed will not really help because Alan Scott has prep and is blood lusted too, what stops alan scott from starting high up in the sky from where he doesn’t attack flash but simply destroys the planet thereby killing Flash? Neither his super speed not his speed steal could help.

In a random encounter i would give blood lusted flash 10/10 because he could simply beat Alan to death before he could even react, with a prep match Alan 9/10 IMO

@Killemall said:

@Supermanwithatan01 said:

This goes to Flash. Alan doesn't have any defensive feats to stop Wally and no offensive feats to get to Wally first.

Flash speed will not really help because Alan Scott has prep and is blood lusted too, what stops alan scott from starting high up in the sky from where he doesn’t attack flash but simply destroys the planet thereby killing Flash? Neither his super speed not his speed steal could help.

In a random encounter i would give blood lusted flash 10/10 because he could simply beat Alan to death before he could even react, with a prep match Alan 9/10 IMO

haha I know I'm a little late so forgive me. The thing is Wally's offensive attack could absolute pawn anything Alan could do. Its why bloodlusted he would defeat practically anyone that can be physically harmed. He's never had a problem with green lanterns before and yes I know the difference with the Star heart and I'm well aware of its capabilities and how he's practically a god.. blah blah blah. Wally can be intangible, can defend and suck down Alan with a vortex, can out think a Super computer in the 853 century so Scott isnt exactly a threat there. Both have crazy powerful offenses but Wally just happens to have that simple defense, you can't touch him. Fast speed, reaction time, IMP, intangibility, control of kinetic energy (speed steal). The fights in New york, doesn't matter where Alan is, hes IN New York so Wally could touch him grab him get him some way before Alan could do anything. Bloodlusted Wally wins.

"he would defeat practically anyone that can be physically harmed. " this is where the problem of your argument is. Alan ( especially full starheart blood lusted) isn't susceptible to physical harm. he becomes a densional level entity with the full starheart blood lusted. even without full starheart or blood lusted since te Sentinel upgrade in the late 80's he is living magical energy, he doesn't have a physical body to be harmed. when he's on hus game he simply is what he imagines him self to be ( so if he feels young he is, if he feels strong he is, if he mentally allows himself to be hurt he is if. ot he isn't. plus Wally has never beaten Zoom even with speed force. just like Zoom Alan has time manipulation. Wally wont e en be able to react to him. Alan can use IMP just as much if not more than Wally.

@SithLantern93 said:

Could you please write the names of the issues of the scans of Alan?

It was from the blackest night tie in cross over of JLA/JSA/JSA All Stars. JSA 41 and 42 and JLA 47 and 48. Those whole issues are basically the power levels of a blood lusted full starheart Alan. At those levels he solos all DC New Earth.

@beatboks1:A little late since I already have them :D. But thanks anyway.

Alan Scott 

@SithLantern93:Sorry only saw your question this morning at morning tea when on my Iphone. As I didn't have access to my comics at work, had to wait till I got home.

ALAN wins...@beatboks1: wow, those scans are awsome

@beatboks1:It is ok. How was you tea?:D

@Killemall said:

@Supermanwithatan01 said:

This goes to Flash. Alan doesn't have any defensive feats to stop Wally and no offensive feats to get to Wally first.

Flash speed will not really help because Alan Scott has prep and is blood lusted too, what stops alan scott from starting high up in the sky from where he doesn’t attack flash but simply destroys the planet thereby killing Flash? Neither his super speed not his speed steal could help.

In a random encounter i would give blood lusted flash 10/10 because he could simply beat Alan to death before he could even react, with a prep match Alan 9/10 IMO

Agree.

Nothing is stopping Alan Scott from sitting cozily on the moon and then destroying the planet. Or simply making millions of constructs and fighting Flash as he watches safely from afar. Flash is earthbound, and cannot survive in space. Plus, with his construct armor, Flash cannot "blitz" him. He would do no damage.

Alan should win.

Alan murders!

Alan one shots

Alan wins easily

Okay so I change my vote, since Alan has prep he wins. Without it Wally ends him.

really ANOTHER blood lusted flash thread.. awesome BTW flash wins this regardless of starting point and blowing up the planet he would end him BEFORE he could spam or attack. brf wouldn't work either.. can just enter speed force if he had to as well, go back in time PRIOR to prep etc.. stupid thread