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#1 Posted by abysofpride (43 posts) - - Show Bio

Begin, I want to see the outcome of the battle.
#2 Posted by FinalStar86 (8681 posts) - - Show Bio

Use to search function

#3 Posted by Jodema (444 posts) - - Show Bio

I tried to search but couldn't find a sole fight between the two.

#4 Posted by Shinkii (25 posts) - - Show Bio

You guys need to search harder. I guarantee you I can google this thread title and find at least three different battles on the first page of results.

#5 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty sure this is going to get closed soon, but Wally wins.

#6 Posted by Jodema (444 posts) - - Show Bio

I saw races and group fights but not a KO fight.

#7 Posted by Uno_Oscuro (743 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

I'm pretty sure this is going to get closed soon, but Wally wins.

How does Wally win?

#8 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Uno_Oscuro said:

@blackadamFTW said:

I'm pretty sure this is going to get closed soon, but Wally wins.

How does Wally win?

He's a good amount faster, has much better reaction, and can speed steal him and/or IMP him 100 times in a split second.

#9 Posted by Uno_Oscuro (743 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@Uno_Oscuro said:

@blackadamFTW said:

I'm pretty sure this is going to get closed soon, but Wally wins.

How does Wally win?

He's a good amount faster, has much better reaction, and can speed steal him and/or IMP him 100 times in a split second.

What proof is there that he is faster, SS is a FTL speedster too. And, can he steal his speed? There isn't any speed force in the Marvel U.

#10 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@Uno_Oscuro: There isn't a Power Cosmic in the DCU but we assume Surfer's powers will still work fine.

#11 Posted by Uno_Oscuro (743 posts) - - Show Bio

@_Black said:

@Uno_Oscuro: There isn't a Power Cosmic in the DCU but we assume Surfer's powers will still work fine.

Yes, but the difference is that Surfer's powers are directly coming from him. With the speed force Flash can steal speed from other people who use it. If thats the case SS doesn't have anything to do with the speed force, he doesn't tap into it or use, therefore there is nothing for Flash to steal, while Flash doesn't need to have the power of cosmic for SS to use it on him. If I explained the speed force incorrectly please feel free to correct me, my understanding of the speed force is rather lacking, so I could be totally getting this wrong.

#12 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - - Show Bio

SS in a stomp. Turns flash into potato.

#13 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@Uno_Oscuro: As far as I know, Wally can steal speed from anybody, not just people who use the Speed Force.

#14 Posted by menaceforever (3696 posts) - - Show Bio

Why do people want to lock his thread party poopers

#15 Posted by blackychu (4 posts) - - Show Bio

@stonerthps said:

SS in a stomp. Turns flash into potato.

before or after flash beats him to death?

@Uno_Oscuro said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@Uno_Oscuro said:

@blackadamFTW said:

I'm pretty sure this is going to get closed soon, but Wally wins.

How does Wally win?

He's a good amount faster, has much better reaction, and can speed steal him and/or IMP him 100 times in a split second.

What proof is there that he is faster, SS is a FTL speedster too. And, can he steal his speed? There isn't any speed force in the Marvel U.

flash was able to temporarly outrun the big bang, he's thousands of times faster than surfer

@Uno_Oscuro said:

@_Black said:

@Uno_Oscuro: There isn't a Power Cosmic in the DCU but we assume Surfer's powers will still work fine.

Yes, but the difference is that Surfer's powers are directly coming from him. With the speed force Flash can steal speed from other people who use it. If thats the case SS doesn't have anything to do with the speed force, he doesn't tap into it or use, therefore there is nothing for Flash to steal, while Flash doesn't need to have the power of cosmic for SS to use it on him. If I explained the speed force incorrectly please feel free to correct me, my understanding of the speed force is rather lacking, so I could be totally getting this wrong.

superman nor black adam use the speed force and both have gotten their speed stolen

#16 Posted by Uno_Oscuro (743 posts) - - Show Bio

@_Black said:

@Uno_Oscuro: As far as I know, Wally can steal speed from anybody, not just people who use the Speed Force.

Oh, I thought he could only do it because characters in the DCU, who have super speed similar to him, use the speed force in some capacity. If I'm wrong then its a little different than I thought. In that case, how fast can he drain someone of their speed? And how close does he need to be to do it?

#17 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@Uno_Oscuro: I understand it to be instantaneous and Wally only has to look at his target. I'm not an expert though.

#18 Posted by Uno_Oscuro (743 posts) - - Show Bio

@Uno_Oscuro said:

@_Black said:

@Uno_Oscuro: There isn't a Power Cosmic in the DCU but we assume Surfer's powers will still work fine.

Yes, but the difference is that Surfer's powers are directly coming from him. With the speed force Flash can steal speed from other people who use it. If thats the case SS doesn't have anything to do with the speed force, he doesn't tap into it or use, therefore there is nothing for Flash to steal, while Flash doesn't need to have the power of cosmic for SS to use it on him. If I explained the speed force incorrectly please feel free to correct me, my understanding of the speed force is rather lacking, so I could be totally getting this wrong.

superman nor black adam use the speed force and both have gotten their speed stolen

Thats what I was asking, I didn't know how it worked, I said that.@blackychu said:

@Uno_Oscuro said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@Uno_Oscuro said:

@blackadamFTW said:

I'm pretty sure this is going to get closed soon, but Wally wins.

How does Wally win?

He's a good amount faster, has much better reaction, and can speed steal him and/or IMP him 100 times in a split second.

What proof is there that he is faster, SS is a FTL speedster too. And, can he steal his speed? There isn't any speed force in the Marvel U.

flash was able to temporarly outrun the big bang, he's thousands of times faster than surfer

Okay, that proves nothing for me. I need a scan to see this, because, technically there would be no way to outrun the Big Bang since there would be nothing to run in, outside of the area that was expanding, the big bang part so to speak, but it being comics I know ridiculous stuff happens, but I need scans to understand it.

#19 Posted by TheWitchingHour (1340 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally is probably faster than Norrin. But I'm not sure about Speed Stealing. Norrin is an expert energy manipulator, that trick could easily turn right around on Wally.

#21 Posted by Mercy_ (92085 posts) - - Show Bio

CitzenBane murderstomp.

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