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#1  Edited By termiteone4ever

Rules

There is no PREP

No Binary

Vixen has all her powers

Morals on but the Team will do anything for KO

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Africa :)

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#2  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

Is this Mari Vixen? If so I don't see why she is here and I really like Kori out of this bunch but I think it might be a stretch to say she solos.

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#3  Edited By termiteone4ever

@god_spawn said:

Is this Mari Vixen? If so I don't see why she is here and I really like Kori out of this bunch but I think it might be a stretch to say she solos even though I think she is the strongest here.

Yes this is Mari :)

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team one

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#5  Edited By LordOfFate

depends on what power vixen brings to the table.she could come with the powers of gorilla grodd or the shark and solo this fight with a couple mental bolts.

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#6  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

team one

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#7  Edited By termiteone4ever

I taught the storm fans would a put an argument

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#8  Edited By Roddy010

Team 1...

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Team 1 wins.

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#10  Edited By Ruvik_

vixen & storm wins

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#11  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

Can anyone fill me in on what Mari can really do? From her character page and looking through some old threads it seems like she can't beat Storm or Carol.

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@god_spawn said:

Can anyone fill me in on what Mari can really do? From her character page and looking through some old threads it seems like she can't beat Storm or Carol.

that's what I was thinking
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#13  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@LordOfAllHumans said:
@god_spawn said:

Can anyone fill me in on what Mari can really do? From her character page and looking through some old threads it seems like she can't beat Storm or Carol.

that's what I was thinking
I vaguely remember a scan where she took a punch from Superman.
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#14  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@texasdeathmatch said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:
@god_spawn said:

Can anyone fill me in on what Mari can really do? From her character page and looking through some old threads it seems like she can't beat Storm or Carol.

that's what I was thinking
I vaguely remember a scan where she took a punch from Superman.

Idk whether to call it bad writing or not since Supes can KO any animal with one hit, just from her character page she mimics animals or animal based people heroes/villains whatever like Gorilla Grodd's telepathy but that's fine and dandy but idk if it's typical tactics for her against people she doesn't know. She could be a flying sabretooth blue whale for all I care but Storm and Carol seem like they can take her out relatively easy. But then again Kori can take out Storm with a single starbolt.

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#15  Edited By LordOfFate

@god_spawn said:

Can anyone fill me in on what Mari can really do? From her character page and looking through some old threads it seems like she can't beat Storm or Carol.

She is as strong and as powerful as the writer needs her to be…..well within certain limits

At max she can lift around 65 tons (Rhinoceros Beetle) with full potential 90 tons( tropical mite), can hit someone 70 to 90 times within a second (humming bird), runs about 70mph (cheetah), can project laser-like beams from her head or hands (Anglerfish), can mend bones and flesh in seconds (accelerated snake healing), has enhanced sense and reflexes equal to any animal, can fly (Hawk), project a magical force field, her nails are magically enhanced and can make Superman, Geo-Force and Despero bleed. She can give her enough durability to withstand a punch from a possessed Superman. Keep in mind she can combine all this abilities into one.

She can also do mystical creatures like dragons

Or she could just mimic the powers of Grodd or the Shark and mental bolt both Storm and Ms. Marvel to unconsciousness.

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#16  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@Lord Shiva: Fair enough, thank you. but what is typical tactics for her against people she hasn't met?

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#17  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Lord Shiva: there's that scan!
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#18  Edited By LordOfFate

@god_spawn said:

@Lord Shiva: Fair enough, thank you. but what is typical tactics for her against people she hasn't met?

Run in, hit it or scratch it....if that doesn't work use something else...she has the whole animal kingdom to play with so she can be very versatile in a fight.

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#19  Edited By cattlebattle

Team 1, due mainly to Starfire

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#20  Edited By THUNDERBOLT30

Probably Team 1 due to Starfire.

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#21  Edited By LordOfFate

@cattlebattle: Not really sure how she beats Ms. Marvel. Carol is stronger but Kory is a better fighter.

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#22  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

When did Carol become a class 100 now? Last time I heard she was 70 at the least 90 at most when not when absorbing energy? Of course that will change after starbolts.

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#23  Edited By EpitomeofCool
@Roddy010 said:

Team 1...

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#24  Edited By cattlebattle
@Lord Shiva said:

@cattlebattle: Not really sure how she beats Ms. Marvel. Carol is stronger but Kory is a better fighter.

Starfire originally started out as "the strength of ten men" now, due to DCs inane need to overpower the crap out of their characters, can go toe to toe with likes of Wonder Woman, I believe Carol is class 70, so.....basically Starfire out matches her in everything
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@cattlebattle said:

@Lord Shiva said:

@cattlebattle: Not really sure how she beats Ms. Marvel. Carol is stronger but Kory is a better fighter.

Starfire originally started out as "the strength of ten men" now, due to DCs inane need to overpower the crap out of their characters, can go toe to toe with likes of Wonder Woman, I believe Carol is class 70, so.....basically Starfire out matches her in everything

No, I have the fight on my computer and Kory went toe-to-toe with a Diana holding back. As soon as Diana was about to get serious, Dick stepped in. Kory is at best 30 tons

I've had this conversation before and when I ask about pics actually showing Kory doing something in the Class 100 range.....posters turn silence.

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#26  Edited By cattlebattle
@Lord Shiva said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Lord Shiva said:

@cattlebattle: Not really sure how she beats Ms. Marvel. Carol is stronger but Kory is a better fighter.

Starfire originally started out as "the strength of ten men" now, due to DCs inane need to overpower the crap out of their characters, can go toe to toe with likes of Wonder Woman, I believe Carol is class 70, so.....basically Starfire out matches her in everything

No, I have the fight on my computer Kory went toe-to-toe with a Diana holding back. As soon as Diana was about to get serious, Dick stepped in. Kory is at best 30 tons

I've had this conversation before and when I ask about pics actually showing Kory doing something in the Class 100 range.....poster get quite.

Do you have any proof of her being 30 tonner...the DC database along with popular opinion (on this site for one) believes she is indeed class 100
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@Nefarious said:

Team 1 wins.

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

Probably Team 1 due to Starfire.

@cattlebattle said:

Team 1, due mainly to Starfire

@StrikeDown said:

vixen & storm wins

@Roddy010 said:

Team 1...

@Roddy010 said:

Team 1...

@The Stegman said:

team one

@a88378438 said:

team one

Sounds good to me.

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#28  Edited By LordOfFate

@cattlebattle: @cattlebattle said:

@Lord Shiva said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Lord Shiva said:

@cattlebattle: Not really sure how she beats Ms. Marvel. Carol is stronger but Kory is a better fighter.

Starfire originally started out as "the strength of ten men" now, due to DCs inane need to overpower the crap out of their characters, can go toe to toe with likes of Wonder Woman, I believe Carol is class 70, so.....basically Starfire out matches her in everything

No, I have the fight on my computer Kory went toe-to-toe with a Diana holding back. As soon as Diana was about to get serious, Dick stepped in. Kory is at best 30 tons

I've had this conversation before and when I ask about pics actually showing Kory doing something in the Class 100 range.....poster get quite.

Do you have any proof of her being 30 tonner...the DC database along with popular opinion (on this site for one) believes she is indeed class 100

I been on this site long enough to know that not true, at most it's a couple of posters who keep saying it....making you'all believe the false hype....show me one scan of her doing something Class 100. FYI, I'm being nice at 30 tons

http://www.comicvine.com/starfire/29-2389/how-strong-is-starfire/92-566225/#13

Sorry if I sound offensive, I don't mean to be but this has slowly become a pet-peeve of mine.

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#29  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

I haven't seen anything to suggest that Kori is any less than 100 tons especially "30" tons being generous. But I guess being stronger than Donna Troy and needing Donna and Mon-El to hold someone back doesn't indicate 100 tons, and as for the users I guess that makes Static, Zoom, Gambler, Silver and a bunch of other guys wrong.

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@god_spawn said:

I haven't seen anything to suggest that Kori is any less than 100 tons especially "30" tons being generous. But I guess being stronger than Donna Troy and needing Donna and Mon-El to hold someone back doesn't indicate 100 tons, and as for the users I guess that makes Static, Zoom, Gambler and a bunch of other guys wrong.

Where does it say she is stronger then Donna? Better fighter "Yes", Stronger "?". Just because Donna and Mon'el held her back doesn't mean she was pushing them to their Class 100 limits. Just give me proof on paper....not opinion. I'm new here so those names mean nothing to me,,,,,sorry

Also, are u guys basing this "Stronger the Donna" comment on current info or stuff from early Titans?

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#31  Edited By THUNDERBOLT30

@Lord Shiva said:

@god_spawn said:

I haven't seen anything to suggest that Kori is any less than 100 tons especially "30" tons being generous. But I guess being stronger than Donna Troy and needing Donna and Mon-El to hold someone back doesn't indicate 100 tons, and as for the users I guess that makes Static, Zoom, Gambler and a bunch of other guys wrong.

Where does it say she is stronger then Donna? Better fighter "Yes", Stronger "?". Just because Donna and Mon'el held her back doesn't mean she was pushing them to their Class 100 limits. Just give me proof on paper....not opinion. I'm new here so those names mean nothing to me,,,,,sorry

Also, are u guys basing this "Stronger the Donna" comment on current info or stuff from early Titans?

Interesting. What about her combat speed? If her speed is like where your stating her strength could be then I may change my mind on this fight.

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#32  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Team 2. Vixen is the weak link.

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#33  Edited By LordOfAllHumans  Online
@JediXMan said:
Team 2. Vixen is the weak link.
This!!
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#34  Edited By Roddy010

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@JediXMan said:
Team 2. Vixen is the weak link.
This!!

Well based on her CV wiki she can duplicate the likes of Superman and company so how exactly does this make her a weak link?

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#35  Edited By CODYSF

Team one.

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#36  Edited By LordOfAllHumans  Online
@Roddy010 said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@JediXMan said:
Team 2. Vixen is the weak link.
This!!

Well based on her CV wiki she can duplicate the likes of Superman and company so how exactly does this make her a weak link?

that's when she could mimic metas and such I thought she was back to animals?
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Team 1.

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@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Roddy010 said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@JediXMan said:
Team 2. Vixen is the weak link.
This!!

Well based on her CV wiki she can duplicate the likes of Superman and company so how exactly does this make her a weak link?

that's when she could mimic metas and such I thought she was back to animals?

Idk I don't read any JLA...But if that the case then Team 2 takes this with ease...

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#39  Edited By LordOfAllHumans  Online
@Roddy010 said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@Roddy010 said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@JediXMan said:
Team 2. Vixen is the weak link.
This!!

Well based on her CV wiki she can duplicate the likes of Superman and company so how exactly does this make her a weak link?

that's when she could mimic metas and such I thought she was back to animals?

Idk I don't read any JLA...But if that the case then Team 2 takes this with ease...

yeah I think she is back to just animal powers
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#40  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Roddy010 said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@JediXMan said:
Team 2. Vixen is the weak link.
This!!

Well based on her CV wiki she can duplicate the likes of Superman and company so how exactly does this make her a weak link?

Far as I know, she is restricted to animals only.
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#41  Edited By LordOfFate

@JediXMan: @JediXMan said:

@Roddy010 said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@JediXMan said:
Team 2. Vixen is the weak link.
This!!

Well based on her CV wiki she can duplicate the likes of Superman and company so how exactly does this make her a weak link?

Far as I know, she is restricted to animals only.

Humans are still animals.....never understood why she couldn't take on the energy powers of Jade or the mental powers of Captain Comet who are both mutants.

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@Lord Shiva said:

@cattlebattle: @cattlebattle said:

@Lord Shiva said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Lord Shiva said:

@cattlebattle: Not really sure how she beats Ms. Marvel. Carol is stronger but Kory is a better fighter.

Starfire originally started out as "the strength of ten men" now, due to DCs inane need to overpower the crap out of their characters, can go toe to toe with likes of Wonder Woman, I believe Carol is class 70, so.....basically Starfire out matches her in everything

No, I have the fight on my computer Kory went toe-to-toe with a Diana holding back. As soon as Diana was about to get serious, Dick stepped in. Kory is at best 30 tons

I've had this conversation before and when I ask about pics actually showing Kory doing something in the Class 100 range.....poster get quite.

Do you have any proof of her being 30 tonner...the DC database along with popular opinion (on this site for one) believes she is indeed class 100

I been on this site long enough to know that not true, at most it's a couple of posters who keep saying it....making you'all believe the false hype....show me one scan of her doing something Class 100. FYI, I'm being nice at 30 tons

http://www.comicvine.com/starfire/29-2389/how-strong-is-starfire/92-566225/#13

Sorry if I sound offensive, I don't mean to be but this has slowly become a pet-peeve of mine.

LOL,  its cool. There is many misinterpreted feats and characters around here(the Gambit blowing up Gladiator is one of my peeves). I honestly have no idea what her strength level is, I used to read Teen Titans but mainly stuff from the 80's where she was no where near 100 tons...I just kind of changed my mind due to people telling me she is class 100 for so long...I guess I started to believe it
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#43  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Lord Shiva said:

@JediXMan: @JediXMan said:

@Roddy010 said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@JediXMan said:
Team 2. Vixen is the weak link.
This!!

Well based on her CV wiki she can duplicate the likes of Superman and company so how exactly does this make her a weak link?

Far as I know, she is restricted to animals only.

Humans are still animals.....never understood why she couldn't take on the energy powers of Jade or the mental powers of Captain Comet who are both mutants.

Superman isn't human.
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But people to understand that you just can't look at Storm only controlling weather.... She's also a witch and at that the most powerful witch.... You have to remember that she is the witch of mothe nature(she mother nature), and that means she can also control the 4 main Greek elements she's done it before, she has also proven that she can walk on water, swim in the dirt, etc. Anything with nature.... And not just that earthly stuff, she can also control extraterrestrial ecosystems(the power cosmic), she wields magic, the power of electromagnetic forces(she can also use as a force field),etc.... She is at omega level mutant.... But I don't have to explain it all to y'all read her encyclopedia on ask.com.... So the win would be Storm and MM, mostly because of Storm though....

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Oh and by her being mother nature, she can summon any animal on them!!!!

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@UnithStorm said:

Oh and by her being mother nature, she can summon any animal on them!!!!

@UnithStorm

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But people to understand that you just can't look at Storm only controlling weather.... She's also a witch and at that the most powerful witch.... You have to remember that she is the witch of mothe nature(she mother nature), and that means she can also control the 4 main Greek elements she's done it before, she has also proven that she can walk on water, swim in the dirt, etc. Anything with nature.... And not just that earthly stuff, she can also control extraterrestrial ecosystems(the power cosmic), she wields magic, the power of electromagnetic forces(she can also use as a force field),etc.... She is at omega level mutant.... But I don't have to explain it all to y'all read her encyclopedia on ask.com.... So the win would be Storm and MM, mostly because of Storm though....

O.O'.....

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#47  Edited By WARLOCK2792

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@UnithStorm said:

Oh and by her being mother nature, she can summon any animal on them!!!!

@UnithStorm

said:

But people to understand that you just can't look at Storm only controlling weather.... She's also a witch and at that the most powerful witch.... You have to remember that she is the witch of mothe nature(she mother nature), and that means she can also control the 4 main Greek elements she's done it before, she has also proven that she can walk on water, swim in the dirt, etc. Anything with nature.... And not just that earthly stuff, she can also control extraterrestrial ecosystems(the power cosmic), she wields magic, the power of electromagnetic forces(she can also use as a force field),etc.... She is at omega level mutant.... But I don't have to explain it all to y'all read her encyclopedia on ask.com.... So the win would be Storm and MM, mostly because of Storm though....

O.O'.....

Co-signed

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#48  Edited By THUNDERBOLT30

@UnithStorm: Please tell us you are just being playful/funny :-/...?

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@UnithStorm said:

But people to understand that you just can't look at Storm only controlling weather.... She's also a witch and at that the most powerful witch.... You have to remember that she is the witch of mothe nature(she mother nature), and that means she can also control the 4 main Greek elements she's done it before, she has also proven that she can walk on water, swim in the dirt, etc. Anything with nature.... And not just that earthly stuff, she can also control extraterrestrial ecosystems(the power cosmic), she wields magic, the power of electromagnetic forces(she can also use as a force field),etc.... She is at omega level mutant.... But I don't have to explain it all to y'all read her encyclopedia on ask.com.... So the win would be Storm and MM, mostly because of Storm though....

This is completely incorrect. She is an extremely powerful superhuman mutant who can manipulate weather. She has magical potential due to her ancestry but she has not really developed these skills. She does not control the 4 classical elements, nor is she mother nature. If I were you, I'd look up her character page http://www.comicvine.com/storm/29-1444/ or pick up a Marvel Universe guide before typing stuff like that.

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#50  Edited By WARLOCK2792

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@UnithStorm: Please tell us you are just being playful/funny :-/...?

Pretty Pretty Please?