vision vs red tornado

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#1  Edited By hitmanholla47

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#2  Edited By beatboks1

If Vision 1.0 that Reddy goes down hard
If Vision 2.0 Reddy gets the win JUST

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#3  Edited By termiteone4ever

I would have to say vision. As much as i like Red tarnado. Vision intagibility  gives him an advantage here.
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#4  Edited By The_Warlord

Red Tornado

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#5  Edited By lagoon_boy
Probably Red Tornado.
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#6  Edited By Tesseract

Does RT have an answer for intangibility?

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#7  Edited By lagoon_boy
@Tesseract:  Hey, She-Hulk did.
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#8  Edited By Tesseract
@lagoon_boy: How did she do it?
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#9  Edited By lagoon_boy
@Tesseract:  By ripping him apart?
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#10  Edited By Tesseract
@lagoon_boy: So he wasn't intangible at the time, and if he was that is just stupid beyond comprehension.  
 
And when he goes Intangible RT won't be able to do anything to him, and Vision only need to mess up his mahcinery while intangible.
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#11  Edited By Tesseract
@lagoon_boy: And I just read that the new Vision can interface with outside technology...does that mean he can control or disrupt RT or is can he interface in some other way? I'm just trying to get as much information the characters as I can.
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#12  Edited By lagoon_boy
@Tesseract:  I know, but its not like Vision always goes intangible, and Red Tornado is no slouch...hes not gonna stand there letting and intangible opponent go through him.
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#13  Edited By Achilles.

Vision

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#14  Edited By lagoon_boy
@Tesseract: I might not be the best person to ask about Visions abilities. But if he can mess up technology like you described, Red Tornado is in heaps of trouble.
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#15  Edited By Tesseract
@lagoon_boy: I'm just repeating what is written on his page, i'm not really an expert on any of these characters.
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#16  Edited By lagoon_boy
@Tesseract:  Fair enough...though we need feats of both characters.
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#17  Edited By Ultimate JSA
@beatboks1 said:
"If Vision 1.0 that Reddy goes down hard If Vision 2.0 Reddy gets the win JUST "

what he said
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#18  Edited By Tesseract
@Ultimate JSA said:
" @beatboks1 said:
"If Vision 1.0 that Reddy goes down hard If Vision 2.0 Reddy gets the win JUST "
what he said "
Why does Vision 1.0 wins so easily and 2.0 losses?
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#19  Edited By beatboks1
@Tesseract said:
" @Ultimate JSA said:
" @beatboks1 said:
"If Vision 1.0 that Reddy goes down hard If Vision 2.0 Reddy gets the win JUST "
what he said "
Why does Vision 1.0 wins so easily and 2.0 losses? "
Vision 2.0 while he has 1.0 memory files doesn't have the active experience and is a little more flawed in application of that knowledge.
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#20  Edited By Tesseract
@beatboks1: Could be but there is a difference in power beetwen the two version that could make up for the difference in experience. And what if he has all the memories of the first version that pretty much means he has all the experience also.
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#21  Edited By karrob

Unless RT has an answer for Intangibility Vision wins.

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#22  Edited By beatboks1
@karrob said:
" Unless RT has an answer for Intangibility Vision wins. "
RT can be separated from the android body and just be the air elemental that uses the android as a host.  It's happened on about 4 occasions I'm aware of. If this does happen than RT is actually living air that is only tangible when it wants to be
 
As for the experience or Vision 2.0 there is a definite slow reaction to similar stimuli that 1.0 has experienced that is inconsistent with the way 1.0 would have reacted. It has been shown a few times now that it takes 2.0 longer to process certain activities and formulate the appropriate response. That reaction is decreasing but the gap is still there. RT will only just win if that version though that outcome could change in a few weeks/months. The only chance RT has if it's the released full powered  air elemental.