Vision (MCU) vs Superman (DCCU)

Hulk, Iron Man, Thor≥>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman.

@heatforce: Stop being a fan boy. Stunned shook what whatever you wanna call it is still being hurt. It was concussive damage. Just because he didn't show external damage doesn't mean he wasn't hurt internally. Stunned is when your brain is damaged and shut its body down in response to being hurt thus leaving you stunned. He was hurt. Get over it

^^^Now that is ridiculous.

Supervil Stomps so hard it hurts me...

Not if Vision goes intangible. But Vision was knocked out by Ultron in AOU.

@never_give_up: did he go intangible to dodge hits ? Or was it just to phase through robots and inanimate object ? If so intangibility isn't a game winner seeing that there are a lot of what ifs

Vision doesn't like to kill. But he could use it to immobilize Superman. Additionally, the mind gem.

Vision

Eeeeexactly

He wasn't hurt at all. Its is kind of hard to fight with a car on top of you, which is the reason why he paused. As he got the car off him, Zod kicked him in that moment, so he couldn't really defend.

@gxrevolution96: just totally disregard that he was stunned that implied that he was hurt. I'm done with this topic. It's a losing battle even with logic. He was stunned not held down by a light car of all things.

I just saw the film.

Anyway, I'd say vision. He was strong enough to flatten an Ultron bot with his bare hands and he can mind-rape with the mind gem. I doubt Superman can hurt him seeing as how he's made of vibranium AND can phase.

@comickidd77: A 5000 pound car falling from a parking garage is light? How was he stunned? It fell on him. He shrugged it off. Not to mention he wasn't expecting it at all. Its hard to agree with you when you call baseless speculation logic. What was his reaction supposed to be to a car falling on him? Just bouncing off his head?

Widow was ripping apart Ultronbots. Vision won't mind rape with morals and I don't recall him phasing defensively

@monte-cristo: it didn't "fall" on him. Zod hit him with it. It's not baseless speculation, it's in the movie. Just because he wasn't expecting it didn't make him any let hurt or stunned. Being stunned is a sign of concussive damage. Jeeze it's never ending.

Superman

@comickidd77: Hit him with it??? Zod was on the ground. He was about to punch Zod again until the car fell on him. Your right. It isn't baseless speculation. Your just flat out wrong.

When did Widow rip apart an ultron bot??? And was it with her bare hands? Did she flatten it like a pancake like Vision did?

The mind rape doesn't have to kill Clark so it's completely fine to do morals on. I'm also positive he phased defensively, I'd have to check.

Incharacter > they would literally go out for a drink.

both characters are too much of pacifist they won't even fight.

Vision has yet to show feats but I honestly I'll go with him.

@monte-cristo: would you look at that I am wrong. Just rewatched. My memory sucks.Serves me right. Still was stunned by a falling car. So it's even worse seeing how he was stunned not by being hit by the car but by it just falling on him. And don't say he wasn't hurt because he was, which gave zod enough time to get up and front kick him

@comickidd77: please don't call me a fanboy because I disagree with you. That's the equivalent of calling me a poopyhead in elementary school. Give me a time stamp please of the scene you're in reference to so I can judge for myself.

@comickidd77

Clark showed took bullets from the A10 without being damaged. As did Nam-Ek, who more or less shrugged it off. Clark was hit by a locomotive carriage that was thrown across town. He was punched up a skyscraper and wasn't hurt. Tanked re-entry. He bounced off multiple cars before flying though several concrete walls in a car park. He walked away merely irritated. Not to mention being tossed through 6(or was it five?) skyscrapers. You can argue that he was dazed afterwards, but it was very brief, as he is shown to be completely fine when Zod rushed him a second or so later, when they flew up to space.

I think Vision needs more feats.

@thor_parker82: What's first for you.

Morals On. Vision won't phase through Superman. But the mind gem is very powerful.

@comickidd77: Agree to disagree. It's not going to just fall on him and bounce off his head. He was distracted from shrugging it off. That allowed Zod to attack.

Vision has morals. He cares about life, so he won't just rip Superman in half with phasing.

I'm pretty sure the exhaustion of deleting every trace of Ultron from all of the internet and then permanently locking him out of it is what caused him to collapse. Nothing Ultron did was able to damage Vision in any way.

Are you asking which MCU movie is my favorite ?

If that´s your question, my favorite is The Avengers, I enjoyed both equally but the first one was something never done before and it changed CBM history.

@thor_parker82: For Vision just tips it in the scales for Avengers 2.

@apocalypse3: All right

Mind Gem would turn Kal's brain to mush - Game Over!!

The Mind Gem is crazy powerful. Vision lifted Thor's hammer like it was nothing in the movie. The few feats he showed in the movie trumps anything Superman has done. I'll take Vision in this battle.

Vision phases Superman's organs out maybe if bloodlusted.

How? What feats does it have to suggest that it could put Clark down?

The OP says he is In character.

What did Vision do that "trumps" feats in MOS. I do not recall that many feats, and the feats he did have weren't overly impressive, If can remember correctly. He scrapped with Ultron for couple of seconds and ripped apart the Ultron drones. There wasn't really anything, from what I can remember, that puts him above MOS speed or strength wise. His strike with Mjolnir was badarse, but the OP doesn't mention the hammer in the OP.

@gxrevolution96: That's why I said if bloodlusted. As it stands, Vision does not have the feats.

And? Cap nudged it. Lifting the hammer has to do with being worthy, not being all powerful. Vision didn't fight real challenges. He fought fodder, hacked Ultron, passed out then cheapshotted him when Ultron was smacking on Thor.

Faie enough

@gxrevolution96 its the Mind Gem, its a universal artifact, it will sit on Thanos's glove and make him a killer cosmic bad guy - so of course it will scramble Kal's brain!!

Vision wins via phasing.

And just toss the power of an Infinity Stone in there to boot.

+ Mind Gem TP/Hacking = Vision stomps. Supers gets mind F'd 10/10 times.

Vision stomps, he has better feats

IC? Superman. Vision barely used his phasing, and his lasers and striking capacity weren't that great.

Superman snaps his neck.

Vision.

What has Vision done with the mind gem anyway? Let's list his actual feats instead of his potential abilities and powers.