Vice Principle Stern vs Ventress and Darth Zannah - Battles

#1 Posted by MasterJohn (2472 posts) - 5 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

Scenario: Ventress and Zannah Wwander throughout White chapel after their ship is damaged in Hyperspace. They eventually meet a cloaked man who challenges them for battle, they rely completely on the force for this battle...

Morals off, random encountered, bloodlust off.

Battle ends in death.

Battle takes place in white chapel.

Round 1: Rely completely on the force, no lightsabers, no nothing, just the force.

Round 2: Rely completely on lightsabers, no force.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by MasterJohn (2472 posts) - 5 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova @JediXMan Your thoughts?

#3 Posted by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 5 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

@MasterJohn: What can Team 1 do?

#4 Posted by MasterJohn (2472 posts) - 5 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@MasterJohn: What can Team 1 do?

Sern is an very incredibly powerful wizard, able to fire bolts of energy, fire balls, take control of others minds, manipulate Seers visions, and curse others so they were stricken by fear. Even before he gained the Lucifractor, he was able to causally overpower and kill Vampires. He could also perform far greater forms of power, he was able to summon the breath of death, and used it to try to kill the vampires; he was able to break into pocket dimensions, erase memories and knock out others.

He was described as the most powerful thing they had ever faced, and was even more powerful than Benny's Grandma. Even she couldn't undo his spells, and he was able to defeat her, with a residual spell.

He has the Lucifractor in this battle. Lucifractor is a very powerful object that would allow him to obsorb the souls of people/vampires, and destroy their essence. I put Zannah in because I want to see if her Sith Socerey can combat/par with Stern's magic.

#5 Edited by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 5 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

@MasterJohn: But who has he taken over the minds of (and how strong were their minds)? How powerful is Grandma? Besides, how quickly can he react? Because if can't, he dies. If he does, and he can actually fight, then he wins. Although there's still a chance of vice-versa.

#6 Posted by MasterJohn (2472 posts) - 5 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@MasterJohn: But who has he taken over the minds of (and how strong were their minds)? How powerful is Grandma? Besides, how quickly can he react? Because if can't, he dies. If he does, and he can actually fight, then he wins. Although there's still a chance of vice-versa.

Grandma - Capable of waving her finger and casting a spell that can kill/knock someone dead.

Most powerful witch in the series, capable of curing curses and creating potions.

Imprisioned an ever immortal Vampire in his own pocket dimension, trapping him.

Sadly, we have not seen much from her lately, I am expecting to soon.

He took over Ethan's mind, Ethan is a seer with strong telepathy. Eventually Ethan imprisioned him into his mind, but he quickly got out at his will.

Vampiries can move much faster then he can blink his eye, he killed them with the Lucifractor before they could react.

Can zannah's sith sorcerey par with any of this?

#7 Posted by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 5 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

@MasterJohn: The only tricky part is that the Vampires' movement speed cannot be defined exactly (unless you can define it for me). Being faster than a regular human's eye is good, sure, but that doesn't exactly tell me how fast.

Regardless, obviously the Lucifractor is capable of use, and Zannah's sorcery is nothing about pocket dimensions, just mentally destructive (and can be used for certain other effects, such as cloaking).

#8 Posted by MasterJohn (2472 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@MasterJohn: The only tricky part is that the Vampires' movement speed cannot be defined exactly (unless you can define it for me). Being faster than a regular human's eye is good, sure, but that doesn't exactly tell me how fast.
Regardless, obviously the Lucifractor is capable of use, and Zannah's sorcery is nothing about pocket dimensions, just mentally destructive (and can be used for certain other effects, such as cloaking).

Speed of vampires: 4:47-4:48

#9 Posted by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@MasterJohn: The second part of my post is still the same.

#10 Posted by MasterJohn (2472 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@MasterJohn: The second part of my post is still the same.

Second part:

Regardless, obviously the Lucifractor is capable of use, and Zannah's sorcery is nothing about pocket dimensions, just mentally destructive (and can be used for certain other effects, such as cloaking).

Let's generalize the video, hm? Jesse let benny get out a couple words, if you look at it closely-you see before his eye can blink he's on the floor. Stern has killed those kind of speeders before they could react. So he certainly has fast reflexes, and should be able to handle these women if they try to speed at him.

Also, there's a part where they don't get aid with the force, and when they only use the force. Do you think they would win the one with only lightsabers? No speed, no sorcery, just lightsabers.

#11 Posted by MasterJohn (2472 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Also, @ShootingNova I don't see any counter to Sith Sorcery in the SW universe, which is why I used a sorcerer from outside of the SW universe.

Has luke or Yoda countered sith sorcery?

#12 Posted by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@MasterJohn: It depends on what you are using as Sorcery. Mental assault (which is the general usage)? Well, yes, certainly, a strong mind and strong willpower is the only defence against it. So it varies.

#13 Posted by MasterJohn (2472 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@MasterJohn: It depends on what you are using as Sorcery. Mental assault (which is the general usage)? Well, yes, certainly, a strong mind and strong willpower is the only defence against it. So it varies.

What about dark trendials that Zannah used on Bane I believe?

#14 Posted by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@MasterJohn: Those tendrils were in fact done by Zannah calling upon the power of Ambria. Like I said, there are many different usages of Sith sorcery and all have different (and usually sole) counters or defences only.

#15 Posted by MasterJohn (2472 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@ShootingNova So is stern the victor?

#16 Posted by ShootingNova (9460 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@MasterJohn: Possibly.