#1 Posted by thegaminboy (49 posts) - - Show Bio

i've wondered who'd win this match since i saw spider-man 3 (they fought for like 4 sec.) i think sandman just might make venom his bi$# what do you think?

#2 Posted by DEADPOOL (2703 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm really not sure. Sandman could probably win.

#3 Posted by Shocker (3 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom would destroy Sandman. Come on Sandman is made of sand; I am soooo scared.

#4 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio

An intelligent Sandman can't lose. Unfortunately, Sandman's not terribly smart.

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#5 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Shocker says:

"Venom would destroy Sandman. Come on Sandman is made of sand; I am soooo scared."

As you should be. Sandman has mental control over each grain of his body, which he can add to if a source of sand is handy. What can Venom do bite him? Sandman can infiltrate Venom's anatomy wreck havoc internally, smother Venom, etc.

If you have seen Garaa from the anime Naruto you can imagine the capabilities of The Sandman.


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#6 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom actually did bite him once and that ended the battle. Venom is also very fast and would be hard to pin down. Not impossible but it'd require effort to catch him. Sandman using his powers right would be as dangerous as Gaara or Byakuya (Bleach) but he generally doesn't live up to his abilities.

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#7 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

I know Venom bit him, and always wondered exactly how that hurt him. If the bite stole control of those sand grains from Sand man i could understand but it seems incongruous with Sandy's overall abilities and track record.

#8 Posted by Lord Eriee (14 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"An intelligent Sandman can't lose. Unfortunately, Sandman's not terribly smart."

this is true there is so much potential in this character that he could logically defeat most opposition fairly easily i think (including venom)

#9 Posted by Soldier of Death (36 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah if Flint had a few more braincells, he'd be unstoppable, but Venom is slightly smarter and is very fast and very strong. They fought already and Venom damn near killed Flint.

#10 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7470 posts) - - Show Bio

venom

#11 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio

Sandman wins

#12 Posted by King Saturn (223841 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Sandman could win here

#13 Posted by ImbecilicSage (129 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Venom would win, though I doubt fatally. What can stop Sandman permanently? I'm not too knowledgeable of the level of his durability within the comics but within SM III he came back from pretty much everything! Regarding Sandman infiltrating Venom's system and the like, I really doubt that'd work. As Flint isn't very bright within more conventional sciences, how would he have much knowledge of alien anatomy? The Venom symbiote's durability can withstand shotgun blasts, incredibly sharp blades, great amounts of massive force (including anything the Sandman could dish out presumably). I don't really see Sandman actually able to do any damage to Venom at all, which pretty much defaults to Venom dominating the fight in my view. I just realized he probably could beat him fatally if he had him asphyxiate due to the symbiote's tendrils choking him down his throat... That was a penchant of Brock Venom; it's kind of novel to think of Marko dying from something rather benign in contrast to a lot of the stuff I bet he's come back from.

#14 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio

ImbecilicSage says:

"The Venom symbiote's durability can withstand shotgun blasts, incredibly sharp blades, great amounts of massive force (including anything the Sandman could dish out presumably)."

You don't know much about Sandman but you just assume he doesn't have the power to hurt Venom?

ImbecilicSage says:

"I just realized he probably could beat him fatally if he had him asphyxiate due to the symbiote's tendrils choking him down his throat... That was a penchant of Brock Venom; it's kind of novel to think of Marko dying from something rather benign in contrast to a lot of the stuff I bet he's come back from."

Sandman doesn't need to breathe.

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#15 Posted by ImbecilicSage (129 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"ImbecilicSage says:
"The Venom symbiote's durability can withstand shotgun blasts, incredibly sharp blades, great amounts of massive force (including anything the Sandman could dish out presumably)."

You don't know much about Sandman but you just assume he doesn't have the power to hurt Venom?

ImbecilicSage says:

"I just realized he probably could beat him fatally if he had him asphyxiate due to the symbiote's tendrils choking him down his throat... That was a penchant of Brock Venom; it's kind of novel to think of Marko dying from something rather benign in contrast to a lot of the stuff I bet he's come back from."

Sandman doesn't need to breathe."

In regards to the former critical point, "presumably" was the keyword there. Besides that though, I do know a decent deal about him from reading his wiki and watching some informative videos on Spider-Man characters.

Regarding the latter point, okay, so my initial assumption may have been right that no fatal decision was possible, but I still think Venom would take the win.


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#16 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio

ImbecilicSage says:

"In regards to the former critical point, "presumably" was the keyword there. Besides that though, I do know a decent deal about him from reading his wiki and watching some informative videos on Spider-Man characters. Regarding the latter point, okay, so my initial assumption may have been right that no fatal decision was possible, but I still think Venom would take the win.
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Sandman easily lifts more than 80 tons normally (before adding to his mass). Venom has on occasion been knocked around by Spider-Man who lifts between 10 and 20 tons. Why would you presume that Venom could withstand "anything" that Sandman did? Super strong blows could hurt him, sand storms could rip the suit and flesh from his bones, glass storms could do worse faster, and if anyone's going to be suffocated it will be Venom if Sandman decides to forcefeed him a ton of sand.

You're saying that because Sandman can't hurt Venom (which I don't believe to be true) that Venom would take the win, but how will Venom hurt Sandman? Sandman can increase his density so Venom's blows mean nothing or lower it so they go right through, and webbing won't hold him him either.

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#17 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Shocker says:

"Venom would destroy Sandman. Come on Sandman is made of sand; I am soooo scared."

where did you come from?

ImbecilicSage says:

"Buckshot says:
"ImbecilicSage says:
"The Venom symbiote's durability can withstand shotgun blasts, incredibly sharp blades, great amounts of massive force (including anything the Sandman could dish out presumably)."
You don't know much about Sandman but you just assume he doesn't have the power to hurt Venom? ImbecilicSage says:
"I just realized he probably could beat him fatally if he had him asphyxiate due to the symbiote's tendrils choking him down his throat... That was a penchant of Brock Venom; it's kind of novel to think of Marko dying from something rather benign in contrast to a lot of the stuff I bet he's come back from."
Sandman doesn't need to breathe."
In regards to the former critical point, "presumably" was the keyword there. Besides that though, I do know a decent deal about him from reading his wiki and watching some informative videos on Spider-Man characters. Regarding the latter point, okay, so my initial assumption may have been right that no fatal decision was possible, but I still think Venom would take the win.
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well at least you tried to sound like you knew what you were talking about ;)

#18 Posted by chunjacktao (334 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok, how exactly would venom "kill" sandman???  Venom's bites would probably be a pain in the a$$ for sandman, yea, but nothing would "kill" the sandman. 
 
On the otherhand, Venom, although incredibly strong, CAN be killed or significantly injured by conventional means.  Sandman can alternate his density (like mentioned above), turn himself in to stone to knock Venom around, or turn him self into sand to avoid Venom's attacks.  Sandman can always disappear in a sandstorm.   
 
When Sandman turns himself into stone, he gains strength and toughness equasl to the thing.  However, Sandman has special abilities tha the Thing does not have, such as the ability to regenerate from virtually anything (as long as there is sand around), and appear and disappear in sandstorms.......... 
 
Venom is faster, but his attacks won't be fatal for Sandman ( although they would still make sandman cry in pain). 
Sandman, on the otherhand, has displayed enough strength to rip Venom to bits or crush venom into Skitherness. 
 
The one advantage venom has is his speed, but that wouldn't be enough.
#19 Posted by inferiorego (21266 posts) - - Show Bio

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#20 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@inferiorego: Glad that's taken care of. :P
#21 Posted by inferiorego (21266 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" @inferiorego: Glad that's taken care of. :P "
That was actually supposed to be grains of sand because Sandman obviously takes this one!
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#22 Posted by Nighthunter (28580 posts) - - Show Bio

Sandman

#23 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@inferiorego said:
" That was actually supposed to be grains of sand because Sandman obviously takes this one! "
I was talking about the lesbian porn. LOL.
#24 Posted by Ferro Vida (34676 posts) - - Show Bio

Sandman makes rape with a sandpaper- covered dildo much more plausible.

#25 Posted by chunjacktao (334 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" @inferiorego said:
" That was actually supposed to be grains of sand because Sandman obviously takes this one! "
I was talking about the lesbian porn. LOL. "

yea that porn was quite disturbing
#26 Posted by Magneto14 (53 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom has no way of killing Sandman, in fact, few can even hurt Sandman. Whereas Sandman would likely consume Venom in a sandstorm or defeat him through some other creative means such as crushing him with an oversized 'sand-hammer'. I understand that Venom is fast and strong, but Sandman is near invulnerable.

#27 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2791 posts) - - Show Bio

Sandman.

I.A.T.

#28 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Venom bites him.
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#29 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11540 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
Venom bites him.
Lol. This.
#30 Posted by TDK_1997 (14489 posts) - - Show Bio

Sandman would smash Venom if he thinks in this fight.

#31 Posted by nickzambuto (13062 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna go against the grain ( ) and say Venom.

I mean really, you don't need to be Reed Richards to figure out water might be helpful against a sand enemy.

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#32 Posted by SpideyFan113 (107 posts) - - Show Bio

They already fought. Venom won with ease. He bit him and the battle was over. After that Sandman started to fall apart over the length of a few comics because Venom's bite is apparently poisonous. Either that or he took a bite out his "Queen Bee" Grain, this is basically a single grain in Sandman's body that controls his ability to morph his form. If this one, single grain is seperated from him, he loses his power. Spider-man has beaten him using this method. Venom's durability, agility, and immense super strength also helps him in battle. Venom: Easy win!

#33 Edited by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom wins via water hose found lying around

#34 Posted by Typhion (622 posts) - - Show Bio

Sandman, and it ain't really that close. Venom can do virtually nothing to Sandman unless he can lure him into a really bad environment. Sandman can own Venom by bludgeoning, piercing, ripping, suffocating...it's not that close.

#35 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Buckshot said:

An intelligent Sandman can't lose. Unfortunately, Sandman's not terribly smart.

#36 Posted by Bo88gdan (4393 posts) - - Show Bio

Sandman wins

#37 Posted by spiderpool94 (467 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom; Sandman is thick and not really a fighter