Venom vs Edward Cullen - Battles

#1 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Venom (Eddie Brock) has decided to attack Cullen. Can he win?

#2 Posted by CaptainRodgers (1656 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Ed wins ...which Ed ? I'll let you decide ....just kiddden i won't , Venom should wreck him .

#3 Posted by DeathsHead2 (1625 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@comicdude23:

Brock > Eddie.

Brock EATS Eddie!

; )

#4 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@DeathsHead2:
Lol

#5 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Well I'm not sure I think this may be a tie

Venom should be around his equal in speed, But Edward has his telepathy going for him. But edward has no way to actually Venom, so STALEMATE.

#6 Posted by InnerVenom123 (27724 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

This is a joke, right?

#7 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@nightwing91 said:

"Well I'm not sure I think this may be a tie Venom should be around his equal in speed, But Edward has his telepathy going for him. But edward has no way to actually Venom, so STALEMATE. "

Yeah i thought the same, Venom has senses, but Edward has Telepathy, there evenley matched.

#8 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Unless venom can resist telepathy which im not sure as I haven't read a whole lot of his apparences, the only rea way I see this is a stalemate. Just cause I'm not sure if venom, can hit him or not, coupled with his speed and telepathy.

#9 Posted by Doctor!!!!! (2053 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

I have to go with Edward on this one
Telepathy can mess up the minds of Venom.

#10 Posted by CaptainRodgers (1656 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

"This is a joke, right? "

do you agree with me on Venom defeating Cullen ?

Can anyone explain the extent of Edwards telepathy ?

And just how strong is Edward ? is he 5 ton , 10 ton or what ?

#11 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

I think Edward has different Telepathy

#12 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@CaptainRodgers: the only thing i remember about his tp is that he can read minds

#13 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Looks like a stalemate

#14 Posted by InnerVenom123 (27724 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@CaptainRodgers said:

" @InnerVenom123 said:

"This is a joke, right? "
do you agree with me on Venom defeating Cullen ? Can anyone explain the extent of Edwards telepathy ? And just how strong is Edward ? is he 5 ton , 10 ton or what ? "

I ... just kinda find this thread to be one of the dumbest things I've read in a long time.

I have no idea what Cullen can do. Nor do I really care.

#15 Posted by Lvenger (8228 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

In a fight, Venom would win. Out of sheer hatred for Twilight I would have said Venom wins even if Edward could beat him. Spider-Man could beat him and Venom is more powerful than him. An easy meal for Venom

#16 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@Doctor!!!!!: He only has telepathy to read minds, not mess with them.

And Edward doesn't have the strength to harm Venom, but venom doesn't have the speed to contend with the speed and telepathy combo he presents.
Now unless Venom is thinking Gee I hope he doesn't use Sonics or Fire, it'll end up as a stalemate.

#17 Posted by InnerVenom123 (27724 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@nightwing91 said:

" @Doctor!!!!!: He only has telepathy to read minds, not mess with them. And Edward doesn't have the strength to harm Venom, but venom doesn't have the speed to contend with the speed and telepathy combo he presents. Now unless Venom is thinking Gee I hope he doesn't use Sonics or Fire, it'll end up as a stalemate. "

Edward would have a hard time finding the kind of sonic equipment to put Venom down. And Venom's shown great resistance to fire, so yeah.

#18 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123: I know, Edward has no way to beat him. it was a joke, he can't be near fire or he burns like paper. It's like I said this end's up as a stalemate, because if venom touches him he'd kill the emo vamp in a second, but with the speed and telepathy edward has Venom will constantly dodged.

#19 Posted by CaptainRodgers (1656 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@PirateKing69 said:

" @CaptainRodgers: the only thing i remember about his tp is that he can read minds "

Thanks , thats not that impressive though , i mean can he implant anything into minds ?
Beside perhaps knowing Venom's next move (which i still dont think is enough to give him the win ) there's not much he can use that for here

@InnerVenom123 said:
" @CaptainRodgers said:

" @InnerVenom123 said:

"This is a joke, right? "
do you agree with me on Venom defeating Cullen ? Can anyone explain the extent of Edwards telepathy ? And just how strong is Edward ? is he 5 ton , 10 ton or what ? "
I ... just kinda find this thread to be one of the dumbest things I've read in a long time. I have no idea what Cullen can do. Nor do I really care. "

Me neither , i care a little though as i wish Venom to prevail over this depressing vampire man.

If Attacks from Wolverine's adamantium claws can't hurt Venom i don't see what Edward's bite can do .
Unless i see any comparable strength feats from edward to people like Spiderman i don't see what his punches could do either.

#20 Posted by MarquisFredrick (5 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

I would have to say Eddie Brock in this one.Cullen wouldn't stand a chance, despite his speed.

#21 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@CaptainRodgers: no he can only know what venom does....No Edward does not have the strength to contend with Venom...all he has is speed and reflexes with his tp to dodge Venom

#22 Posted by CaptainRodgers (1656 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@PirateKing69 said:

" @CaptainRodgers: no he can only know what venom does....No Edward does not have the strength to contend with Venom...all he has is speed and reflexes with his tp to dodge Venom "

I see , well i think Venom can tag him , he can tag spidey who has his spidey sense and superhuman agility/speed so i don't think Edward should be that much of a problem , not to mention his tendrils which could probably get Edward if his fists can't

#23 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@CaptainRodgers: He tags spidey, because Spider lacks a spidersense when he battles venom, while edward can dodge everything through the use of his constant telepathy. And his tendrils are controlled by thought edward can dodge them.

This is the problem with using that vampire in battle, his telepathy is always on and he has superhuman speed.

#24 Posted by CaptainRodgers (1656 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@nightwing91 said:

" @CaptainRodgers: He tags spidey, because Spider lacks a spidersense when he battles venom, while edward can dodge everything through the use of his constant telepathy. And his tendrils are controlled by thought edward can dodge them. This is the problem with using that vampire in battle, his telepathy is always on and he has superhuman speed. "

Well i don't know much about Edward as i've been saying on his past 2 threads , i dunno , i doubt his punches willl affect Venom and if you say Venom can''t tag him (I'll take your word for it ) then this should be a Stalemate

#25 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@CaptainRodgers: Like I said Edward acks anywhere near enough strength to phase him with any blow.

#26 Posted by Matezoide2 (15980 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Venom slaughterhouse

@MarquisFredrick:
fun fact: Venom is faster than Cullen

#27 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (9187 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

BEST.THREAD.EVER

VENOM WINS!!!!

#28 Posted by Zaterra (1140 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Venom

#29 Posted by Nefarious (16427 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

This would be a boring fight.

#30 Posted by Larkin1388 (1760 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Venom would have him for lunch....

#31 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Edward cannot win this particular one. He lacks the physical strength to actually harm any version of Venom.

I think their speed is comparable and he can read Venom's mind but those things will only allow him to stay one step ahead of Venom for so long.

Strength I see being in Brock's favor. Edward never did anything to indicate he was up to 25 ton strength, though he was very strong as far as vampires go. So once Venom gets hold of Edward, it is all over.

#32 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@erik: Im not sure Edward does have healing, and he doesn't tire whatsoever, so I still stand by a stalemate.

#33 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@nightwing91 said:

" @erik: Im not sure Edward does have healing, and he doesn't tire whatsoever, so I still stand by a stalemate. "

His healing is not as effective. In fact, I do not believe it ever gets thoroughly discussed in the books. Only some vague reference to having to be burned or they can regenerate.

Venom can tire but that does not matter since he can win before it comes to that.

#34 Edited by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@erik: The vampires healing is demonstrated, during the child birth part when the baby destroys her insides snapping bones, driving her to the point of death and when she turns she's healed in a matter of minutes.

#35 Posted by FLCL1 (9581 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@comicdude23 said:

"Looks like a stalemate "

#36 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@nightwing91 said:

" @erik: The vampires healing is demonstrated, during the child birth part when the baby destroys her insides snapping bones, driving her to the point of death and when she turns she's healed in a matter of minutes. "

That is because she was in the process of transforming. That is not indicative of what can be done once there is nothing to transform.

#37 Posted by FLCL1 (9581 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

venom rapes edward...and not in the way im sure he would like

#38 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@erik: That is true, because of Bella's human blood the extent of healing is greatly increased, to increased levels since she's a new born. But the limbs can be attached and heal very quickly, and the vampire venom causes them to heal at a further increased superhuman rate. And he doesn't tire, if he his telepathy wasn't coupled with speed, reflexes and a healing factor venom would win. But cause of this I believe it'd be a stalemate, as Edward could never hope to actually hurt Venom, because he's far superior in everyway, but with him not tiring I just see him constantly dodging everything venom does.

#39 Posted by spystreak (2063 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

what's he gonna do challenge Venom to a fuckin poetry slam or a dance competition

#40 Posted by daak1212 (7798 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Venom

#41 Posted by primepower53 (5667 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

"In a fight, Venom would win. Out of sheer hatred for Twilight I would have said Venom wins even if Edward could beat him. Spider-Man could beat him and Venom is more powerful than him. An easy meal for Venom "

#42 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@nightwing91 said:

" @erik: That is true, because of Bella's human blood the extent of healing is greatly increased, to increased levels since she's a new born. But the limbs can be attached and heal very quickly, and the vampire venom causes them to heal at a further increased superhuman rate. And he doesn't tire, if he his telepathy wasn't coupled with speed, reflexes and a healing factor venom would win. But cause of this I believe it'd be a stalemate, as Edward could never hope to actually hurt Venom, because he's far superior in everyway, but with him not tiring I just see him constantly dodging everything venom does. "

His telepathy and speed are nothing better than Ben Reilly with his. In fact, Ben's are better and he barely was able to stay out of Venom's way.

#43 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@erik: My reasoning is that when he battled jane, they were a blur, and his reflexes showed that being able to avoid trees in a forest, while running at superspeed. And his telepathy is always on, and constantly reading there mind, and no way to counter it.

I by no means like twilight I just think a lot of people underestimate them because they're so hated.

#44 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@nightwing91 said:

" @erik: My reasoning is that when he battled jane, they were a blur, and his reflexes showed that being able to avoid trees in a forest, while running at superspeed. And his telepathy is always on, and constantly reading there mind, and no way to counter it. I by no means like twilight I just think a lot of people underestimate them because they're so hated. "

Wolverine is fast enough to run as a blur and Spider-Man is a lot fast than him.

Also, a spider sense is automatic, as in no thought needs to be put into it. Edward still has to read the minds, then think of his own counter-measure to the attack.

I actually liked the Twilight series for some things. I read it with my ex. There, I said it. It does not make me less of a man to appreciate a fresh new take on vampires beyond the same old tired formula? Hell no.

#45 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

He doesn't have to think to use his telepathy, it's second nature the use of a vampire gifts. Like bellas shields are automatic and always up, his telepathy is always going, hence the reason he was around bella. The thoughts he reads are essentially going in his mind all the time, so much that he fights alice, and it's a stalemate cause while there fighting there constantly reading minds and the future, while battling with the other.

#46 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@nightwing91 said:

" He doesn't have to think to use his telepathy, it's second nature the use of a vampire gifts. Like bellas shields are automatic and always up, his telepathy is always going, hence the reason he was around bella. The thoughts he reads are essentially going in his mind all the time, so much that he fights alice, and it's a stalemate cause while there fighting there constantly reading minds and the future, while battling with the other. "

I know that he does not have to think to use his telepathy but he has to think to react to the moves that he reads. He has to come up with a combination of moves that will not only evade damage but also counter attack.

#47 Posted by MrRagePants (843 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

1. Cullen would have the speed advantage, but without the power to hurt venom it is useless
2. Cullen can read Brock's mind, but that's about it. He cannot mess around Eddie's head.
3. If this is in a forest like environment, Cullen can run and move fast to avoid Venom.

1. If Venom catches Cullen it's game over for the Vamp.
2. If this is in a closed environment. Cullen is dead.
3. Unless Eddie thinks "Sonic Blast", there's no way Cullen will think of such a thing.

Wild card here is Cullen's mind reading ability, but even if he did read Eddie's mind where is he going to grab a sonic gun?
Venom dominates Cullen in almost every stat except speed. Cullen don't even know how to fight and he's not that strong, Victoria's mate stated so.

Venom will win this 9/10. With Cullen's only chance is if this fight is near any high tech facility with a sonic gun. Don't give me the big bell crap, he won't fall for that again.

#48 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@erik: I honestly don't see him thinking to counter attack, he can read venom's mind he know's it will do no good. My idea is that the only real way edward can win is if venom expells to much webbing. Otherwise I just don't see Venom being able to catch him repeatedly with his speed and telepathy, a healing factor and durability being equal to being bulletproof. But I respect your opinion I just say it stays a stalemate.

#49 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@nightwing91 said:

" @erik: I honestly don't see him thinking to counter attack, he can read venom's mind he know's it will do no good. My idea is that the only real way edward can win is if venom expells to much webbing. Otherwise I just don't see Venom being able to catch him repeatedly with his speed and telepathy, a healing factor and durability being equal to being bulletproof. But I respect your opinion I just say it stays a stalemate. "

Venom does not sling around webbing like Spider-Man does. He is a more hands on type of guy. He is more likely to crab Cullen, wrap some symbiote around him to prevent escape and bash him to pieces.

#50 Posted by nightwing91 (3911 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

@erik: I don't think bashing him will work, as he has to be dismembered and set on fire a weakness venom knows nothing about, otherwise he'll just put himself back together. And with the vampire venom working that could be very quickly indeed.