Venom (Eddie Brock) has decided to attack Cullen. Can he win?
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"Well I'm not sure I think this may be a tie Venom should be around his equal in speed, But Edward has his telepathy going for him. But edward has no way to actually Venom, so STALEMATE. "
Unless venom can resist telepathy which im not sure as I haven't read a whole lot of his apparences, the only rea way I see this is a stalemate. Just cause I'm not sure if venom, can hit him or not, coupled with his speed and telepathy.
" @InnerVenom123 said:I ... just kinda find this thread to be one of the dumbest things I've read in a long time.
"This is a joke, right? "do you agree with me on Venom defeating Cullen ? Can anyone explain the extent of Edwards telepathy ? And just how strong is Edward ? is he 5 ton , 10 ton or what ? "
" @Doctor!!!!!: He only has telepathy to read minds, not mess with them. And Edward doesn't have the strength to harm Venom, but venom doesn't have the speed to contend with the speed and telepathy combo he presents. Now unless Venom is thinking Gee I hope he doesn't use Sonics or Fire, it'll end up as a stalemate. "Edward would have a hard time finding the kind of sonic equipment to put Venom down. And Venom's shown great resistance to fire, so yeah.
" @CaptainRodgers: the only thing i remember about his tp is that he can read minds "
Thanks , thats not that impressive though , i mean can he implant anything into minds ?
Beside perhaps knowing Venom's next move (which i still dont think is enough to give him the win ) there's not much he can use that for here
" @InnerVenom123 said:
I ... just kinda find this thread to be one of the dumbest things I've read in a long time. I have no idea what Cullen can do. Nor do I really care. ""This is a joke, right? "do you agree with me on Venom defeating Cullen ? Can anyone explain the extent of Edwards telepathy ? And just how strong is Edward ? is he 5 ton , 10 ton or what ? "
Me neither , i care a little though as i wish Venom to prevail over this depressing vampire man.
If Attacks from Wolverine's adamantium claws can't hurt Venom i don't see what Edward's bite can do .
Unless i see any comparable strength feats from edward to people like Spiderman i don't see what his punches could do either.
" @CaptainRodgers: no he can only know what venom does....No Edward does not have the strength to contend with Venom...all he has is speed and reflexes with his tp to dodge Venom "
" @CaptainRodgers: He tags spidey, because Spider lacks a spidersense when he battles venom, while edward can dodge everything through the use of his constant telepathy. And his tendrils are controlled by thought edward can dodge them. This is the problem with using that vampire in battle, his telepathy is always on and he has superhuman speed. "
Edward cannot win this particular one. He lacks the physical strength to actually harm any version of Venom.
I think their speed is comparable and he can read Venom's mind but those things will only allow him to stay one step ahead of Venom for so long.
Strength I see being in Brock's favor. Edward never did anything to indicate he was up to 25 ton strength, though he was very strong as far as vampires go. So once Venom gets hold of Edward, it is all over.
" @erik: Im not sure Edward does have healing, and he doesn't tire whatsoever, so I still stand by a stalemate. "His healing is not as effective. In fact, I do not believe it ever gets thoroughly discussed in the books. Only some vague reference to having to be burned or they can regenerate.
" @erik: The vampires healing is demonstrated, during the child birth part when the baby destroys her insides snapping bones, driving her to the point of death and when she turns she's healed in a matter of minutes. "That is because she was in the process of transforming. That is not indicative of what can be done once there is nothing to transform.
"In a fight, Venom would win. Out of sheer hatred for Twilight I would have said Venom wins even if Edward could beat him. Spider-Man could beat him and Venom is more powerful than him. An easy meal for Venom "
" @erik: That is true, because of Bella's human blood the extent of healing is greatly increased, to increased levels since she's a new born. But the limbs can be attached and heal very quickly, and the vampire venom causes them to heal at a further increased superhuman rate. And he doesn't tire, if he his telepathy wasn't coupled with speed, reflexes and a healing factor venom would win. But cause of this I believe it'd be a stalemate, as Edward could never hope to actually hurt Venom, because he's far superior in everyway, but with him not tiring I just see him constantly dodging everything venom does. "His telepathy and speed are nothing better than Ben Reilly with his. In fact, Ben's are better and he barely was able to stay out of Venom's way.
" @erik: My reasoning is that when he battled jane, they were a blur, and his reflexes showed that being able to avoid trees in a forest, while running at superspeed. And his telepathy is always on, and constantly reading there mind, and no way to counter it. I by no means like twilight I just think a lot of people underestimate them because they're so hated. "Wolverine is fast enough to run as a blur and Spider-Man is a lot fast than him.
He doesn't have to think to use his telepathy, it's second nature the use of a vampire gifts. Like bellas shields are automatic and always up, his telepathy is always going, hence the reason he was around bella. The thoughts he reads are essentially going in his mind all the time, so much that he fights alice, and it's a stalemate cause while there fighting there constantly reading minds and the future, while battling with the other.
" He doesn't have to think to use his telepathy, it's second nature the use of a vampire gifts. Like bellas shields are automatic and always up, his telepathy is always going, hence the reason he was around bella. The thoughts he reads are essentially going in his mind all the time, so much that he fights alice, and it's a stalemate cause while there fighting there constantly reading minds and the future, while battling with the other. "I know that he does not have to think to use his telepathy but he has to think to react to the moves that he reads. He has to come up with a combination of moves that will not only evade damage but also counter attack.
1. Cullen would have the speed advantage, but without the power to hurt venom it is useless
2. Cullen can read Brock's mind, but that's about it. He cannot mess around Eddie's head.
3. If this is in a forest like environment, Cullen can run and move fast to avoid Venom.
1. If Venom catches Cullen it's game over for the Vamp.
2. If this is in a closed environment. Cullen is dead.
3. Unless Eddie thinks "Sonic Blast", there's no way Cullen will think of such a thing.
Wild card here is Cullen's mind reading ability, but even if he did read Eddie's mind where is he going to grab a sonic gun?
Venom dominates Cullen in almost every stat except speed. Cullen don't even know how to fight and he's not that strong, Victoria's mate stated so.
Venom will win this 9/10. With Cullen's only chance is if this fight is near any high tech facility with a sonic gun. Don't give me the big bell crap, he won't fall for that again.
" @erik: I honestly don't see him thinking to counter attack, he can read venom's mind he know's it will do no good. My idea is that the only real way edward can win is if venom expells to much webbing. Otherwise I just don't see Venom being able to catch him repeatedly with his speed and telepathy, a healing factor and durability being equal to being bulletproof. But I respect your opinion I just say it stays a stalemate. "Venom does not sling around webbing like Spider-Man does. He is a more hands on type of guy. He is more likely to crab Cullen, wrap some symbiote around him to prevent escape and bash him to pieces.
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