Venom (Flash) vs Toxin (Patrick)

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#1  Edited By Pokergeist

Flash has only a Assualt Rifle and Hand Gun. He also has 4 Flashbang Gernades.
Toxin comes as is. 
 
- BFR, KO, or Death 
- Morals off 
- Battle in Hells Kitchen 
 
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#2  Edited By BringnIt

Toxin.

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Venom gets stomped, sadly.

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#4  Edited By Pokergeist

God I love Toxin but That new Flash Venom is soooo cool! Hes like GI Joes ultimate soilder.

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#5  Edited By Pokergeist
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I wonder how Toxin would handle Flashbang Gernades?
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@CadenceV2 said:

@venomoushatred1001: I wonder how Toxin would handle Flashbang Gernades?

I would assume he can easily shrug them off.

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#7  Edited By Pokergeist

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How did Flash beat the Eddie Brock Toxin anyway?

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@CadenceV2 said:

@venomoushatred1001:
How did Flash beat the Eddie Brock Toxin anyway?

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#9  Edited By BringnIt

^Courtesy of Betty Brant via Peter Parker, just in case anyone thinks it's standard gear

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#10  Edited By Pokergeist
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 Awsome Scan. 
 
 
 
@BringnIt: 
Glad ya said somethin I was about to say our Tax Money at work for the Goverment lol. Still a clever Prep Time Feat the gear ha can aquire.
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#11  Edited By darktiger

Flash beats toxin

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#12  Edited By VenomousDragon

@darktiger said:

Flash gets beatdown by toxin

*fixed

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#13  Edited By Petey_is_Spidey

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Venom gets stomped, sadly.

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#14  Edited By darktiger

@VenomousDragon: no it is not flash beat toxin

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#15  Edited By VenomousDragon

@darktiger: Yes it is,flash beat eddie brock toxin with sonics, which would be prep.

Pat beat the hell out of carnage and has beaten venom and carnage at the same time.

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#16  Edited By darktiger

@VenomousDragon: This is a different venom with weapons and skills

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#17  Edited By GrandSymbiote94

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@CadenceV2 said:

@venomoushatred1001:
How did Flash beat the Eddie Brock Toxin anyway?

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This was P.I.S. IMO. Didn't Toxin have a resistance to fire and sonics?

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#18  Edited By VenomousDragon

@darktiger: Eddie was better than flash is.

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#19  Edited By Pokergeist
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If I remember right from his Official Bio Venom is weak to Sonics and Fire. Carnage is less weak to fire but more so to Sonics. Toxin is less weak to Sonics but more so to Fire.... Ill look it up again.
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#20  Edited By Pokergeist
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I was wrong.  From Toxins Offcial Bio on Marvel.com http://marvel.com/universe/Toxin.
 
Toxin possesses the power to stick to walls and create "tendrils" to swing between buildings. Toxin can project elongated claws or "snares" from his costume in the same manner as Carnage. His symbiotically induced strength (Able to lift 45 tons now currently lifts 90 tons)is greater than that of Venom and Carnage combined. Toxin can also use the symbiote to simulate any type of clothing. Presumably, Toxin possesses the same vulnerability to fire and intense sonic attacks from which all other symbiotes suffer.
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@GrandSymbiote94 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@CadenceV2 said:

@venomoushatred1001:
How did Flash beat the Eddie Brock Toxin anyway?

Sonic pepper spray

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This was P.I.S. IMO. Didn't Toxin have a resistance to fire and sonics?

He was said to but never had the feats to prove it.

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@VenomousDragon said:

@darktiger: Yes it is,flash beat eddie brock toxin with sonics, which would be prep.

Pat beat the hell out of carnage and has beaten venom and carnage at the same time.

He has done no such thing. In fact, he was about to be killed by them until Spider-Man intervened.

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#23  Edited By BringnIt

To all ye symbiote lovers, what's some good Toxin reading aside from his origin story (not that I would personally classify that story arc as good)?

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#24  Edited By InnerVenom123

@BringnIt said:

To all ye symbiote lovers, what's some good Toxin reading aside from his origin story (not that I would personally classify that story arc as good)?

The only Toxin reading out there for Patrick is "The Devil You Know"... then the Toxin symbiote came back in the recent Venom run and Pat was killed off-panel.

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#25  Edited By BringnIt

@InnerVenom123 Thanks, I'll look into it.

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#26  Edited By Pokergeist
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 True that Spidey Intervene but Toxin was Jumped by Carnage and Venom totally by surprise. Total Suprise attack. They beat him badly and Spidey Web them 2 into a Crypt. Then they were about to finish Spidey when Toxin back bigger and stronger . Black Cat help Spidey in Hlaf a Panel With Venom. Toxin Beat up Carnage. Toxin took the beaten from a suprise attack then did the majority of the butt woopen on panel. 
 

  
 

 
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Graphic Novel Toxin The Devil Within. He beats on King Kobra, The Answere, Wrecker with Excavator, and Razor Fist. 
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#27  Edited By darktiger

@BlueLantern1995: agreed

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#28  Edited By InnerVenom123

How does Venom win?

Magically becoming stronger than ever and flooring Toxin?

Bullsh*t.

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#29  Edited By darktiger

@VenomousDragon: no he is not flash is just beginning and will grow way bette then eddie

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#30  Edited By Strider1992

Toxin stomps

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#31  Edited By GrandSymbiote94

@darktiger said:

@VenomousDragon: no he is not flash is just beginning and will grow way bette then eddie

Lol no. Flash will not be better than Eddie. He doesn't even use the symbiote to it's best potential.

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#32  Edited By Pokergeist
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On the flip side he does use it in ways never been done before. :)
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#33  Edited By darktiger

@GrandSymbiote94: Yes he will

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#34  Edited By Sherlock

Toxin wins effortlessly to the point where I don't think I really need to elaborate on it

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#35  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Toxin takes this. Quite a physical edge.

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#36  Edited By TheSuperHuman

Toxin is more powerful, hence he wins.

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#37  Edited By GrandSymbiote94

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@GrandSymbiote94: Yes he will

What makes you say that? Can you to explain to me what he has done too make keep saying that over and over?

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#38  Edited By ghost_rider1

Toxin will beat venom silly!!! toxin is stronger than venom and carnage COMBINED. How about some of u use some logic. The ONLY way flash is winning this fight is with prep. Like sonic spray, sonic bullets, a flamethrower or something like that. He not jus gonna run into toxin while at a carnival or swinging around havin a good time thinking everything is alright. And then toxin comes out of nowhere and challenge him to a fight and expect him to actually win. Its close to IMPOSSIBILE

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#39  Edited By VenomousDragon

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@VenomousDragon said:

@darktiger: Yes it is,flash beat eddie brock toxin with sonics, which would be prep.

Pat beat the hell out of carnage and has beaten venom and carnage at the same time.

He has done no such thing. In fact, he was about to be killed by them until Spider-Man intervened.

I reread that issue last night, my bad you are correct.

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#40  Edited By InnerVenom123

@GrandSymbiote94: Flash has shown better strength feats than Eddie, along with better durability.

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#41  Edited By darktiger

@InnerVenom123: agreed

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#42  Edited By jeanroygrant

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Venom gets stomped, sadly.

Since you said it, i agree.

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#43  Edited By Strider1992

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@GrandSymbiote94: Flash has shown better strength feats than Eddie, along with better durability.

No he hasn't. Not even close.

Eddie has tanked a lot heavier hitters than Flash has and has much better strength feats. Not sure where you've drawn that from -.o

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#44  Edited By InnerVenom123

@Strider92: From Flash lifting a tank and from tanking hordes of machine gun fire and standing his ground, while Eddie is often thrown back by the same kind of fire.

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#45  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Not to mention busting down that maaaaaaaaaaaaassive armored door while he was "Vulking out."

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#46  Edited By Strider1992

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@Strider92: From Flash lifting a tank and from tanking hordes of machine gun fire and standing his ground, while Eddie is often thrown back by the same kind of fire.

When he was up against the sin-eater he got shot multiple times and tanked something like 8 grenades and an anti-tank missile:

Tanks another missile:

And if we need a comparison. Eddie taking a punch from Spider-man:

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Compared with Flash. You be the judge (Flash was also Venom'd out here):

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#47  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Strider92: In all fairness, Brock has been impacted the same way at times by strikes from Parker.

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@Strider92: In all fairness, Brock has been impacted the same way at times by strikes from Parker.

More consistently not though. He shrugged off blows like that from Pete a lot. Take his fight with Scarlet Spider. He basically laughed off his blows.

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#49  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Strider92: I'm aware. I just think limiting your argument to those two examples isn't exactly a fair representation. After all, Flash wasn't hurt by the strike either (IIRC).

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#50  Edited By Strider1992

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@Strider92: I'm aware. I just think limiting your argument to those two examples isn't exactly a fair representation. After all, Flash wasn't hurt by the strike either (IIRC).

Ok i'll give you that. It probably is a more isolated argument. My point is that Spider-man had trouble taking Brock off his feet let alone hurting him. The only time I remember him actually taking Eddie off his feet with force was that time in the bell tower. Even then he needed both his legs.

Even if Flash wasn't hurt he was still thrown back by a blow that Eddie has taken on numerous occasions to me that shows that Flash Venom doesn't absorb force anywhere near as well as Brock.