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#1 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash has only a Assualt Rifle and Hand Gun. He also has 4 Flashbang Gernades.
Toxin comes as is. 
 
- BFR, KO, or Death 
- Morals off 
- Battle in Hells Kitchen 
 
 
vs 
 
 
#2 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

Toxin.

#3 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom gets stomped, sadly.

#4 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

God I love Toxin but That new Flash Venom is soooo cool! Hes like GI Joes ultimate soilder.

#5 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001
I wonder how Toxin would handle Flashbang Gernades?
#6 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@venomoushatred1001: I wonder how Toxin would handle Flashbang Gernades?

I would assume he can easily shrug them off.

#7 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001
How did Flash beat the Eddie Brock Toxin anyway?

#8 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@venomoushatred1001:
How did Flash beat the Eddie Brock Toxin anyway?

Sonic pepper spray

#9 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

^Courtesy of Betty Brant via Peter Parker, just in case anyone thinks it's standard gear

#10 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001
 Awsome Scan. 
 
 
 
@BringnIt: 
Glad ya said somethin I was about to say our Tax Money at work for the Goverment lol. Still a clever Prep Time Feat the gear ha can aquire.
#11 Posted by darktiger (4273 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash beats toxin

#12 Posted by VenomousDragon (843 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger said:

Flash gets beatdown by toxin

*fixed

#13 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2791 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Venom gets stomped, sadly.

#14 Posted by darktiger (4273 posts) - - Show Bio

@VenomousDragon: no it is not flash beat toxin

#15 Posted by VenomousDragon (843 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger: Yes it is,flash beat eddie brock toxin with sonics, which would be prep.

Pat beat the hell out of carnage and has beaten venom and carnage at the same time.

#16 Posted by darktiger (4273 posts) - - Show Bio

@VenomousDragon: This is a different venom with weapons and skills

#17 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11540 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@CadenceV2 said:

@venomoushatred1001:
How did Flash beat the Eddie Brock Toxin anyway?

Sonic pepper spray

This was P.I.S. IMO. Didn't Toxin have a resistance to fire and sonics?

#18 Posted by VenomousDragon (843 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger: Eddie was better than flash is.

#19 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@GrandSymbiote94
If I remember right from his Official Bio Venom is weak to Sonics and Fire. Carnage is less weak to fire but more so to Sonics. Toxin is less weak to Sonics but more so to Fire.... Ill look it up again.
#20 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@GrandSymbiote94
I was wrong.  From Toxins Offcial Bio on Marvel.com http://marvel.com/universe/Toxin.
 
Toxin possesses the power to stick to walls and create "tendrils" to swing between buildings. Toxin can project elongated claws or "snares" from his costume in the same manner as Carnage. His symbiotically induced strength (Able to lift 45 tons now currently lifts 90 tons)is greater than that of Venom and Carnage combined. Toxin can also use the symbiote to simulate any type of clothing. Presumably, Toxin possesses the same vulnerability to fire and intense sonic attacks from which all other symbiotes suffer.
#21 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@GrandSymbiote94 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@CadenceV2 said:

@venomoushatred1001:
How did Flash beat the Eddie Brock Toxin anyway?

Sonic pepper spray

This was P.I.S. IMO. Didn't Toxin have a resistance to fire and sonics?

He was said to but never had the feats to prove it.

#22 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@VenomousDragon said:

@darktiger: Yes it is,flash beat eddie brock toxin with sonics, which would be prep.

Pat beat the hell out of carnage and has beaten venom and carnage at the same time.

He has done no such thing. In fact, he was about to be killed by them until Spider-Man intervened.

#23 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

To all ye symbiote lovers, what's some good Toxin reading aside from his origin story (not that I would personally classify that story arc as good)?

#24 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

@BringnIt said:

To all ye symbiote lovers, what's some good Toxin reading aside from his origin story (not that I would personally classify that story arc as good)?

The only Toxin reading out there for Patrick is "The Devil You Know"... then the Toxin symbiote came back in the recent Venom run and Pat was killed off-panel.

#25 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 Thanks, I'll look into it.

#26 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001
 True that Spidey Intervene but Toxin was Jumped by Carnage and Venom totally by surprise. Total Suprise attack. They beat him badly and Spidey Web them 2 into a Crypt. Then they were about to finish Spidey when Toxin back bigger and stronger . Black Cat help Spidey in Hlaf a Panel With Venom. Toxin Beat up Carnage. Toxin took the beaten from a suprise attack then did the majority of the butt woopen on panel. 
 

  
 

 
@BringnIt: 


Graphic Novel Toxin The Devil Within. He beats on King Kobra, The Answere, Wrecker with Excavator, and Razor Fist. 
#27 Posted by darktiger (4273 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueLantern1995: agreed

#28 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

How does Venom win?

Magically becoming stronger than ever and flooring Toxin?

Bullsh*t.

#29 Posted by darktiger (4273 posts) - - Show Bio

@VenomousDragon: no he is not flash is just beginning and will grow way bette then eddie

#30 Posted by Strider92 (16163 posts) - - Show Bio

Toxin stomps

#31 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11540 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger said:

@VenomousDragon: no he is not flash is just beginning and will grow way bette then eddie

Lol no. Flash will not be better than Eddie. He doesn't even use the symbiote to it's best potential.

#32 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@GrandSymbiote94
On the flip side he does use it in ways never been done before. :)
#33 Posted by darktiger (4273 posts) - - Show Bio

@GrandSymbiote94: Yes he will

#34 Posted by Sherlock (7246 posts) - - Show Bio

Toxin wins effortlessly to the point where I don't think I really need to elaborate on it

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#35 Posted by k4tzm4n (36482 posts) - - Show Bio

Toxin takes this. Quite a physical edge.

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#36 Posted by TheSuperHuman (856 posts) - - Show Bio

Toxin is more powerful, hence he wins.

#37 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11540 posts) - - Show Bio

@darktiger said:

@GrandSymbiote94: Yes he will

What makes you say that? Can you to explain to me what he has done too make keep saying that over and over?

#38 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3422 posts) - - Show Bio

Toxin will beat venom silly!!! toxin is stronger than venom and carnage COMBINED. How about some of u use some logic. The ONLY way flash is winning this fight is with prep. Like sonic spray, sonic bullets, a flamethrower or something like that. He not jus gonna run into toxin while at a carnival or swinging around havin a good time thinking everything is alright. And then toxin comes out of nowhere and challenge him to a fight and expect him to actually win. Its close to IMPOSSIBILE

#39 Posted by VenomousDragon (843 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@VenomousDragon said:

@darktiger: Yes it is,flash beat eddie brock toxin with sonics, which would be prep.

Pat beat the hell out of carnage and has beaten venom and carnage at the same time.

He has done no such thing. In fact, he was about to be killed by them until Spider-Man intervened.

I reread that issue last night, my bad you are correct.

#40 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

@GrandSymbiote94: Flash has shown better strength feats than Eddie, along with better durability.

#41 Posted by darktiger (4273 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123: agreed

#42 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Venom gets stomped, sadly.

Since you said it, i agree.

#43 Posted by Strider92 (16163 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@GrandSymbiote94: Flash has shown better strength feats than Eddie, along with better durability.

No he hasn't. Not even close.

Eddie has tanked a lot heavier hitters than Flash has and has much better strength feats. Not sure where you've drawn that from -.o

#44 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: From Flash lifting a tank and from tanking hordes of machine gun fire and standing his ground, while Eddie is often thrown back by the same kind of fire.

#45 Posted by k4tzm4n (36482 posts) - - Show Bio

Not to mention busting down that maaaaaaaaaaaaassive armored door while he was "Vulking out."

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#46 Posted by Strider92 (16163 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Strider92: From Flash lifting a tank and from tanking hordes of machine gun fire and standing his ground, while Eddie is often thrown back by the same kind of fire.

When he was up against the sin-eater he got shot multiple times and tanked something like 8 grenades and an anti-tank missile:

Tanks another missile:

And if we need a comparison. Eddie taking a punch from Spider-man:

Compared with Flash. You be the judge (Flash was also Venom'd out here):

#47 Posted by k4tzm4n (36482 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: In all fairness, Brock has been impacted the same way at times by strikes from Parker.

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#48 Posted by Strider92 (16163 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@Strider92: In all fairness, Brock has been impacted the same way at times by strikes from Parker.

More consistently not though. He shrugged off blows like that from Pete a lot. Take his fight with Scarlet Spider. He basically laughed off his blows.

#49 Posted by k4tzm4n (36482 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: I'm aware. I just think limiting your argument to those two examples isn't exactly a fair representation. After all, Flash wasn't hurt by the strike either (IIRC).

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#50 Posted by Strider92 (16163 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@Strider92: I'm aware. I just think limiting your argument to those two examples isn't exactly a fair representation. After all, Flash wasn't hurt by the strike either (IIRC).

Ok i'll give you that. It probably is a more isolated argument. My point is that Spider-man had trouble taking Brock off his feet let alone hurting him. The only time I remember him actually taking Eddie off his feet with force was that time in the bell tower. Even then he needed both his legs.

Even if Flash wasn't hurt he was still thrown back by a blow that Eddie has taken on numerous occasions to me that shows that Flash Venom doesn't absorb force anywhere near as well as Brock.