Venom (flash thompson) vs Toxin (patrick mulligan)

venom(flash Thompson)

http://www.comicvine.com/flash-thompson/4005-1489/

VS

toxin(Patrick mulligan)

http://www.comicvine.com/toxin/4005-40783/

battle takes place in new York city at night

no prep time

both character are bloodlusted

no morals

no gear or weapons just symbiotes

win by death or KO no BFR

who wins?

I miss Mulligan ;(

ya he was awesome at least toxin still lives. given that i bet eddie was a stronger toxin than mulligen and venom didnt do too badly against him id say agent venom would tactifully take him down

@oreoassassin:

I do too :(

@leo-343:

why do you think toxin? any reasoning?

too soon. too soon

Pasta Monster beats Lieutenant Dan

@serrure: @cgoodness:

lol

and

I agree I wish I could have seen more of mulligan I just wanted at least one ongoing maybe :(

toxin is faster and stronger than venom but flashs military traning and skill with his suit makes me think he can pull out a win. patrick is too inexprerienced, ya hes a cop but flash is a war hero

I haven't laughed this hard at comic vine in a long time. Agreed hahah

@bloodblunts:

hmm would you say pat is tougher then eddie as toxin?

no i would say that eddie was a more powerful toxin. hes had years working with symbiotes and before he became toxin was in extremely good condition taking down other symbiotes and the stronger the human the stronger the symbiote.

Toxin stomps. He took on Eddie Brock and Cletus Cassidy at the same time and beat them handily. Flash will fare no better. In fact, it will be worst for him. The Flash wank needs to stop.

Mismatch.

@106me:

really? flash is a better fighter and has shown to do some impressive things with the venom symbiote so I think he might stand atleast a slight chance

@oldwasher: Have you read Venom vs Carnage? Toxin wrecked both of them. Flash can't even beat Carnage by himself. How on earth does he stand a chance against Toxin?

@106me: yes I did read venom vs carnage I read both series with pat mulligan toxin in them and I did notice how toxin did against venom and carnage and flash did a decent job against Eddie Brock toxin

But I'm I'm not sure

Pat Mulligan > Eddie Brock.

@106me: Have you read it? Lol. Toxin was getting beat until Spidey saved him

@106me: hmm true I do think toxin wins but not a stomp

@oreoassassin: Have you read it?

@oldwasher: Fair enough.

Toxin.

Flash couldn't even beat Eddie Brock's Toxin. Classic Toxin stomps. More so since Flash doesn't get his symbiote insta-win plot device gadget thing.

@106me: Yeah. Toxin gets beat down by Eddie and Cletus. Peter shows up and together him, Toxin and Black Cat defeat them with Toxin MvP. @jashro44: @laflux: One of you guys got the scans of this? Much appeciated :)

@106me: I'm not so sure about that, upon his reappearance Broxin was something of an absolute beast, once eddie took the reins flash could do virtually nothing to them.

Which to me proves that despite people constantly bring up flashes military training proves Brock is simply better.

He still has better feats as Venom

He mopped the floor with Flash as Anti venom even though being completely exhausted

He nearly killed him as Toxin (in Philadelphia)

And even has better unarmed and non symbiotic feats.

Somebody post scans from venom vs toxin I woild but I can't post scans from my device I'm on right now

Toxin.

@venomousdragon: so do you think Brock is a better toxin then pat?

@oldwasher:

Their exists two versions of Brock toxin, the weird dinosaur brain spaghetti hulk and the BA one (aka remender toxin vs Cullen toxin), so I'll answer the question for both.

Remender Toxin: Hell NO

Cullen Toxin: I believe so, however his appearances are very limited so we can't really draw a conclusive answer, it's just my speculative opinion.

He sure did whoop Flashes ass though.

@venomousdragon: hmm interesting I haven't read much of Eddie Brock toxin

@oldwasher: you should, Cullen's agent venom run was imo better than remender's

@venomousdragon: alright I'll be sure to read it sometime

Toxin. He's basically top dog in the Symbiote world unless you include Anti-Venom. No symbiote is beating him in a 1v1 encounter.

@strider92: hmm that's probably true

Toxin wins.

@kingant27: any reason?

@oreoassassin: Managed to find scans, here is Toxin vs Venom and Carnage:

Gallery

As for the battle, Toxin should win especially since no gear is allowed which means no sonic tech that Flash can use.

@thedandyman: thanks. nice scans

@oldwasher: That's ok my friend.

No gear? Toxin rather handily. Flash should fair better than Eddie would 1v1 though.

Lol at the Agent Venom hate from some people. It's fine to not like a character but some to think he's inferior since he "isn't Eddie". He's earned his fanbase, and his reputation. He's not winning this fight though.

Anyway Flash has all the skills and the healing to keep him in the fight but at the end of the day he is just frankly too outclassed by Toxin. Mulligan will eventually just cut him down no matter how smart or capable Thompson is.

@strider92: Was anti venom really that impressive? Not that he wasn't strong, but I'm not sure if I would put him on par with Toxin, though.

It wasn't that he was powerful per se its just the dude is krypotnite to other symbiotes. He can negate their powers and destroy symbiotes so in effect he is the most powerful symbiote due to the fact none of them can beat him.

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that.

He was able to overpower Spider-Man without trying too hard, IIRC. If I'm not mistaken, he did get a bit stronger as Anti-Venom. I just thought that's what you meant.

@106me: if I recall anti venom is as strong as venom and the symbiotic krypton it'd stuff plus he is immune to all the symbiote weaknesses

Patrick's got this.

@oldwasher: bc toixin is stronger he can vulk out I don't think flash can vulk anymore

@granitesoldier:

I'm now t seeing any flash hate? Did I miss it? If you're talking about me that's ridiculous, I'm a fan of flash 's he just isn't as powerful as Eddie Brock venom, he has time to catch up or even surpass him but I'm still yet to see anything that puts him above Eddie at his peak.