Vegeta vs Flash

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In Character

No Prep Time

Setting Hercule City

Flash before breakfast

If it's in character Vegeta can take it.

Did you intend to use a picture of Wally? Or were you wanting this to be Barry?

Wally accelerates FTL and IMPs in character.

FLash speedblitz Vegeta... tho if Vegeta manages just one KI blast... he wins because of his raw power. He could throw a multi planet attack to Flash.

vegeta release an area wide ki blast

If its in character, Vegeta is gonna be extremely arrogant as always which will be his downfall.

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

That appears to be Vegeta from the 25th Budokai Tenkaiichi. He was nearing SSJ2 (before Babidi's Majin 'transformation'), which puts him at FLT speeds. This should be hiswin.

How? Flash's speed is so much faster then light it isn't funny. The guy's ridiculous.

Flash

like dumping a baby into a dumpster

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

That appears to be Vegeta from the 25th Budokai Tenkaiichi. He was nearing SSJ2 (before Babidi's Majin 'transformation'), which puts him at FLT speeds. This should be hiswin.

How? Flash's speed is so much faster then light it isn't funny. The guy's ridiculous.

@The_Mayhem_Theory: He's still not even remotely as fast as Flash. He's going to have trouble tagging Wally to begin with. And when Wally accelerates, it's pretty much over.

Also when has Vegeta consistently moved at FTL for more than a few seconds?

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

@ComicStooge said:

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

That appears to be Vegeta from the 25th Budokai Tenkaiichi. He was nearing SSJ2 (before Babidi's Majin 'transformation'), which puts him at FLT speeds. This should be hiswin.

How? Flash's speed is so much faster then light it isn't funny. The guy's ridiculous.

How? As time progressed, Vegeta had trained for so long (mainly to overpower Goku, or to be as powerful as Goku). Goku was FTL before the Vegeta Saga, so it's safe to say that Vegeta is FTL considering his involvement. He kept up with Goku in both speed and combat. Now factor in his rejuvenations (healing), and his power-ups from those healings, his speed increased exponentially.

Since when? I call BS on that one.

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

@ComicStooge said:

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

That appears to be Vegeta from the 25th Budokai Tenkaiichi. He was nearing SSJ2 (before Babidi's Majin 'transformation'), which puts him at FLT speeds. This should be hiswin.

How? Flash's speed is so much faster then light it isn't funny. The guy's ridiculous.

How? As time progressed, Vegeta had trained for so long (mainly to overpower Goku, or to be as powerful as Goku). Goku was FTL before the Vegeta Saga, so it's safe to say that Vegeta is FTL considering his involvement. He kept up with Goku in both speed and combat. Now factor in his rejuvenations (healing), and his power-ups from those healings, his speed increased exponentially.

True, Vageta is powerful, but Flash is the most powerful human in the DCU (Pre-Flashpoint). He's literally outran death, can control kenetic energy from pretty much anything that moves, is capable of knocking out a being that has Kryptonian level durability in a single punch, can vibrate his molecules through solid objects ect, ect. He simply has too much going for him, to lose to Vegeta.

The Flash wins, Saiyans have never been portrayed as being able think faster than the normal person more than likely they would probably be considered slow witted so at best the speed is in reflexes so the fight is over before Vegeta can form a thought in his head.

The Flash.
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@The_Mayhem_Theory: He's still not even remotely as fast as Flash. He's going to have trouble tagging Wally to begin with. And when Wally accelerates, it's pretty much over.

Also when has Vegeta consistently moved at FTL for more than a few seconds?

Since when? I call BS on that one.

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

@ComicStooge said:

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

That appears to be Vegeta from the 25th Budokai Tenkaiichi. He was nearing SSJ2 (before Babidi's Majin 'transformation'), which puts him at FLT speeds. This should be hiswin.

How? Flash's speed is so much faster then light it isn't funny. The guy's ridiculous.

How? As time progressed, Vegeta had trained for so long (mainly to overpower Goku, or to be as powerful as Goku). Goku was FTL before the Vegeta Saga, so it's safe to say that Vegeta is FTL considering his involvement. He kept up with Goku in both speed and combat. Now factor in his rejuvenations (healing), and his power-ups from those healings, his speed increased exponentially.

True, Vageta is powerful, but Flash is the most powerful human in the DCU (Pre-Flashpoint). He's literally outran death, can control kenetic energy from pretty much anything that moves, is capable of knocking out a being that has Kryptonian level durability in a single punch, can vibrate his molecules through solid objects ect, ect. He simply has too much going for him, to lose to Vegeta.

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

@xeon1cs said:

@The_Mayhem_Theory: He's still not even remotely as fast as Flash. He's going to have trouble tagging Wally to begin with. And when Wally accelerates, it's pretty much over.

Also when has Vegeta consistently moved at FTL for more than a few seconds?

He hasn't, and there doesn't need to be consistent feats in that respect. If he shows he is, for any amount of time, it still shows that he is. He's more of a brawler, get-in-and-taunt type of character. But he does have the power to become faster if needed.

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Since when? I call BS on that one.

Goku was able to keep up with Raditz, who was stated to be FTL. When Goku was dead, and trained by King Kai, it's automatically assumed he became faster (should be a given).

Raditz is not FTL that was a dub error. Now unless you have proof other than a silly hyperbole statement that is that.

Raditz is not FTL that was a dub error. Now unless you have proof other than a silly hyperbole statement that is that.

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Raditz is not FTL that was a dub error. Now unless you have proof other than a silly hyperbole statement that is that.

Please show me where it's explained that it was a dub error. Or is your own opinion?

Oh other than the fact it is not stated in the original manga gee I wonder? You still have yet to prove he is FTL and why Goku couldn't make it back to Earth in a timely fashion.

@Billy Batson said:

The Flash.
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Flash

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Raditz is not FTL that was a dub error. Now unless you have proof other than a silly hyperbole statement that is that.

Please show me where it's explained that it was a dub error. Or is your own opinion?

Oh other than the fact it is not stated in the original manga gee I wonder? You still have yet to prove he is FTL and why Goku couldn't make it back to Earth in a timely fashion.

@The_Mayhem_Theory: Even if he was dead. He wasn't FTL when he crossed Snake Way to King Kais. And he wasn't FTL on the way back either.

@The_Mayhem_Theory: Even if he was dead. He wasn't FTL when he crossed Snake Way to King Kais. And he wasn't FTL on the way back either.

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

@SpeedForceSpider said:

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Raditz is not FTL that was a dub error. Now unless you have proof other than a silly hyperbole statement that is that.

Please show me where it's explained that it was a dub error. Or is your own opinion?

Oh other than the fact it is not stated in the original manga gee I wonder? You still have yet to prove he is FTL and why Goku couldn't make it back to Earth in a timely fashion.

Your sarcasm aside (unneeded, by the way), I've elaborated that pretty clearly. Raditz was FTL, therefore Goku is faster than light since his return. He was dead.

I have yet to see scans of factual evidence behind your claims. I asked for evidence I am not going to simply take your word for it if that's what you think. You keep dodging the question and giving me claims. I literally sat there and proved Raditz was not FTL thanks to Goku not making it back to Earth before almost everyone was killed. Hell, Vegeta sat there for an hour and he was still too slow. Being dead in the DBZ universe doesn't magically take away FTL speed. If you don't want to seriously debate then fine, but this nonsense has to stop.

Flash

@Sylvain said:

Flash

@The_Mayhem_Theory:

in the Japanese version he says "his speed it's unbelievable!"

skip to 4:48

In earlier thread, someone had made a point that DBZ characters can move FTL because they dodged the energy blast. (Time it takes for a blast to reach the Moon)

But then during Thor vs Superman debates, another one made a point that dodging laser and what-is-suppose-to-be-light-speed projectiles is actually street levelers' feat.

@SpeedForceSpider said:

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

@SpeedForceSpider said:

@The_Mayhem_Theory said:

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Raditz is not FTL that was a dub error. Now unless you have proof other than a silly hyperbole statement that is that.

Please show me where it's explained that it was a dub error. Or is your own opinion?

Oh other than the fact it is not stated in the original manga gee I wonder? You still have yet to prove he is FTL and why Goku couldn't make it back to Earth in a timely fashion.

Your sarcasm aside (unneeded, by the way), I've elaborated that pretty clearly. Raditz was FTL, therefore Goku is faster than light since his return. He was dead.

I have yet to see scans of factual evidence behind your claims. I asked for evidence I am not going to simply take your word for it if that's what you think. You keep dodging the question and giving me claims. I literally sat there and proved Raditz was not FTL thanks to Goku not making it back to Earth before almost everyone was killed. Hell, Vegeta sat there for an hour and he was still too slow. Being dead in the DBZ universe doesn't magically take away FTL speed. If you don't want to seriously debate then fine, but this nonsense has to stop.

Goku rode the Nimbus cloud, to go fight vegeta he didn't even fly. Although I can agree goku was probably not light speed at that time, he wasn't until his fight with frieza IMO.

@nishi99 said:

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In Character

No Prep Time

Setting Hercule City

Wally steals all of Vegeta's speed and leaves him immobile for the rest of forever.

@Lord_Johnathan said:

Wally steals all of Vegeta's speed and leaves him immobile for the rest of forever.

I like this answer.

ANOTHER

@nickthedevil said:

@Lord_Johnathan said:

Wally steals all of Vegeta's speed and leaves him immobile for the rest of forever.

I like this answer.

ANOTHER

Wally throws enough IMPs in a single second to account for each and every single atom making up Vegeta's body?

@Count Bleck said:

@nickthedevil said:

@Lord_Johnathan said:

Wally steals all of Vegeta's speed and leaves him immobile for the rest of forever.

I like this answer.

ANOTHER

Wally throws enough IMPs in a single second to account for each and every single atom making up Vegeta's body?

Even BETTER!

@Billy Batson said:

The Flash.
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@nickthedevil: Bit of confirmation bias, eh?

I have yet to see scans of factual evidence behind your claims. I asked for evidence I am not going to simply take your word for it if that's what you think. You keep dodging the question and giving me claims. Iliterally sat there and proved Raditz was not FTL thanks to Goku not making it back to Earth before almost everyone was killed. Hell, Vegeta sat there for an hour and he was still too slow. Being dead in the DBZ universe doesn't magically take away FTL speed. If you don't want to seriously debate then fine, but this nonsense has to stop.

@The_Mayhem_Theory: Coudn't really find the ep subed on Youtube but heres a link to watch it subbed if you haven't seen it already.

http://www.nwanime.com/dragon-ball-z-episode-4/watch/c4d3c0861a46bd2dc52c/

its around 16:00 Piccolo says "H-He Avoided it! W-What kind of bastard is he, with such speed?"

Vegeta literally has no chance here.If you can make a case for Superman beating him then Flash will trounce him badly.

@SpeedForceSpider: I heard the same about it being a dub/translation mistake.

Flash

@Lord_Johnathan said:

@nishi99 said:

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In Character

No Prep Time

Setting Hercule City

Wally steals all of Vegeta's speed and leaves him immobile for the rest of forever.

Not in character he isn't. Wally will IMP in character, that's it. Maybe Speed Force dump. He won't do to Vegeta what he did to Inertia. He only did that because Bart died.

The Flash wins. IMP, Speed Steal are all to much for Vegeta.

The Flash has it. Even ki blasts are not fast enough to tag him.

Flash can take this one, via Speed Steal.

Flash with absolute ease.

@nickzambuto said:

If it's in character Vegeta can take it.

This.

If not then the Saiyan Prince goes down hard.

Flash wins easily