Vega Brothers vs Micky and Mallorey (Natural Born Killers)

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Win by death

Standard gear for both

Fight takes place in an Apartment building

Both teams have pistols

Vic Vega (Mr.Blonde) and Vincent Vega (Reservoir Dogs/Pulp Fiction)

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Mickey and Mallory

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#3  Edited By HBKTimHBK

Mickey and Mallory were idiots...talented killers, but weren't the brightest.

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#4  Edited By jeanroygrant

@HBKTimHBKsaid:

Mickey and Mallory were idiots...talented killers, but weren't the brightest.

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#5  Edited By imbackwimps

@jeanroygrant said:

@HBKTimHBKsaid:

Mickey and Mallory were idiots...talented killers, but weren't the brightest.

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#6  Edited By SoA

not too sure on Vic but Vincent is a hitman . Vic is sadistic not unlike Mick n Mallory , gonna go with the Vega bros

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Mickey and Mallory take this. Vincent was fairly incompetent and a heroin junkie. He accidentally shot a dude, allowed his boss' wife to snort his heroin and got killed by his own weapon that he left lying around when he went to take a dump by the guy he was sent to kill. Vic was a sociopath who got killed by an undercover cop that was bleeding out 10 feet away. The best feats either of them have is killing a few unarmed people.

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#8  Edited By charlieboy

man i really love natural born killers. 

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@Shawnbaby said:

Mickey and Mallory take this. Vincent was fairly incompetent and a heroin junkie. He accidentally shot a dude, allowed his boss' wife to snort his heroin and got killed by his own weapon that he left lying around when he went to take a dump by the guy he was sent to kill. Vic was a sociopath who got killed by an undercover cop that was bleeding out 10 feet away. The best feats either of them have is killing a few unarmed people.

Yes, because Mickey and Mallory were completely competent on their own...

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@Shawnbaby said:

Mickey and Mallory take this. Vincent was fairly incompetent and a heroin junkie. He accidentally shot a dude, allowed his boss' wife to snort his heroin and got killed by his own weapon that he left lying around when he went to take a dump by the guy he was sent to kill. Vic was a sociopath who got killed by an undercover cop that was bleeding out 10 feet away. The best feats either of them have is killing a few unarmed people.

Yes, because Mickey and Mallory were completely competent on their own...

I'm not saying micky and mallory are criminal masterminds...but look how Vincent died... because of his complete and total incompetence. Neither one of the Vega brothers have any credible feats aside from killing some unarmed people. Micky and Mallory have better feats....they survived through a lot worse, killed more people, and escaped from prison. .

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@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Mickey and Mallory take this. Vincent was fairly incompetent and a heroin junkie. He accidentally shot a dude, allowed his boss' wife to snort his heroin and got killed by his own weapon that he left lying around when he went to take a dump by the guy he was sent to kill. Vic was a sociopath who got killed by an undercover cop that was bleeding out 10 feet away. The best feats either of them have is killing a few unarmed people.

Yes, because Mickey and Mallory were completely competent on their own...

I'm not saying micky and mallory are criminal masterminds...but look how Vincent died... because of his complete and total incompetence. Neither one of the Vega brothers have any credible feats aside from killing some unarmed people. Micky and Mallory have better feats....they survived through a lot worse, killed more people, and escaped from prison. .

Vince made a simple, very stupid mistake that ended his life..Mickey and Mallory were just complete idiots, who were talented at what they did, but if you want to bring in who had the better mind, and try and defend the two who left innocent victims alive just...because of their complete and utter insanity, and proceeded to then get themselves noticed by other innocent people and have to kill them too...Vince may have made a mistake, but Mickey/Mallory were just complete psychopathic morons.

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@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Mickey and Mallory take this. Vincent was fairly incompetent and a heroin junkie. He accidentally shot a dude, allowed his boss' wife to snort his heroin and got killed by his own weapon that he left lying around when he went to take a dump by the guy he was sent to kill. Vic was a sociopath who got killed by an undercover cop that was bleeding out 10 feet away. The best feats either of them have is killing a few unarmed people.

Yes, because Mickey and Mallory were completely competent on their own...

I'm not saying micky and mallory are criminal masterminds...but look how Vincent died... because of his complete and total incompetence. Neither one of the Vega brothers have any credible feats aside from killing some unarmed people. Micky and Mallory have better feats....they survived through a lot worse, killed more people, and escaped from prison. .

Vince made a simple, very stupid mistake that ended his life..Mickey and Mallory were just complete idiots, who were talented at what they did, but if you want to bring in who had the better mind, and try and defend the two who left innocent victims alive just...because of their complete and utter insanity, and proceeded to then get themselves noticed by other innocent people and have to kill them too...Vince may have made a mistake, but Mickey/Mallory were just complete psychopathic morons.

Psychopathic Morons...with better feats. And at least they have being crazy as an excuse...getting killed by your own gun by the guy you were sent to kill is retarded...and it wasn't the only mistake he made. Both him and Jules should have been killed earlier by the guy hiding in the bath room of the apartment but "God Intervened"...and there's also the guy that vince shot in the face in the back of the car. he then proceeded to make himself look like an idiot in front of Mr. Wolf. And letting his boss' wife OD on his heroin.

As for Vic...he's just as psycho as Micky and Mallory...unless you are forgetting that he was killed because he was about to set a man on fire after cutting off his ear.

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@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Mickey and Mallory take this. Vincent was fairly incompetent and a heroin junkie. He accidentally shot a dude, allowed his boss' wife to snort his heroin and got killed by his own weapon that he left lying around when he went to take a dump by the guy he was sent to kill. Vic was a sociopath who got killed by an undercover cop that was bleeding out 10 feet away. The best feats either of them have is killing a few unarmed people.

Yes, because Mickey and Mallory were completely competent on their own...

I'm not saying micky and mallory are criminal masterminds...but look how Vincent died... because of his complete and total incompetence. Neither one of the Vega brothers have any credible feats aside from killing some unarmed people. Micky and Mallory have better feats....they survived through a lot worse, killed more people, and escaped from prison. .

Vince made a simple, very stupid mistake that ended his life..Mickey and Mallory were just complete idiots, who were talented at what they did, but if you want to bring in who had the better mind, and try and defend the two who left innocent victims alive just...because of their complete and utter insanity, and proceeded to then get themselves noticed by other innocent people and have to kill them too...Vince may have made a mistake, but Mickey/Mallory were just complete psychopathic morons.

Psychopathic Morons...with better feats. And at least they have being crazy as an excuse...getting killed by your own gun by the guy you were sent to kill is retarded...and it wasn't the only mistake he made. Both him and Jules should have been killed earlier by the guy hiding in the bath room of the apartment but "God Intervened"...and there's also the guy that vince shot in the face in the back of the car. he then proceeded to make himself look like an idiot in front of Mr. Wolf. And letting his boss' wife OD on his heroin.

As for Vic...he's just as psycho as Micky and Mallory...unless you are forgetting that he was killed because he was about to set a man on fire after cutting off his ear.

Being psycho is fine, as long as your not stupid enough to seduce a guy at the gas station with your psychotic boyfriend abusing the hostage in the car, while he knows who you are. Their feats are killing idiots as well, it's not like those people they killed were very evasive in their movements. In fact it was pretty easy to go in there and own someone without any fighting skill. Mickey and Mallory are talented, but they need to at least act decently smart if they're going up against other killers. They haven't displayed that..in fact they displayed lower intelligence then average..in other words, they're stupid and need to play it smart to win, which they can't.

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@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Mickey and Mallory take this. Vincent was fairly incompetent and a heroin junkie. He accidentally shot a dude, allowed his boss' wife to snort his heroin and got killed by his own weapon that he left lying around when he went to take a dump by the guy he was sent to kill. Vic was a sociopath who got killed by an undercover cop that was bleeding out 10 feet away. The best feats either of them have is killing a few unarmed people.

Yes, because Mickey and Mallory were completely competent on their own...

I'm not saying micky and mallory are criminal masterminds...but look how Vincent died... because of his complete and total incompetence. Neither one of the Vega brothers have any credible feats aside from killing some unarmed people. Micky and Mallory have better feats....they survived through a lot worse, killed more people, and escaped from prison. .

Vince made a simple, very stupid mistake that ended his life..Mickey and Mallory were just complete idiots, who were talented at what they did, but if you want to bring in who had the better mind, and try and defend the two who left innocent victims alive just...because of their complete and utter insanity, and proceeded to then get themselves noticed by other innocent people and have to kill them too...Vince may have made a mistake, but Mickey/Mallory were just complete psychopathic morons.

Psychopathic Morons...with better feats. And at least they have being crazy as an excuse...getting killed by your own gun by the guy you were sent to kill is retarded...and it wasn't the only mistake he made. Both him and Jules should have been killed earlier by the guy hiding in the bath room of the apartment but "God Intervened"...and there's also the guy that vince shot in the face in the back of the car. he then proceeded to make himself look like an idiot in front of Mr. Wolf. And letting his boss' wife OD on his heroin.

As for Vic...he's just as psycho as Micky and Mallory...unless you are forgetting that he was killed because he was about to set a man on fire after cutting off his ear.

Being psycho is fine, as long as your not stupid enough to seduce a guy at the gas station with your psychotic boyfriend abusing the hostage in the car, while he knows who you are. Their feats are killing idiots as well, it's not like those people they killed were very evasive in their movements. In fact it was pretty easy to go in there and own someone without any fighting skill. Mickey and Mallory are talented, but they need to at least act decently smart if they're going up against other killers. They haven't displayed that..in fact they displayed lower intelligence then average..in other words, they're stupid and need to play it smart to win, which they can't.

Biased? Why do you think Mickey and Mallory are so stupid? Dude broke out of prison twice. Which is more than Mr. Blonde ever did. 
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@Yai_Inn: Because they're unintelligent. I'm not biased, they're simply unintelligent. Talented at what they do, but they're definitely not smart.

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@Yai_Inn said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Mickey and Mallory take this. Vincent was fairly incompetent and a heroin junkie. He accidentally shot a dude, allowed his boss' wife to snort his heroin and got killed by his own weapon that he left lying around when he went to take a dump by the guy he was sent to kill. Vic was a sociopath who got killed by an undercover cop that was bleeding out 10 feet away. The best feats either of them have is killing a few unarmed people.

Yes, because Mickey and Mallory were completely competent on their own...

I'm not saying micky and mallory are criminal masterminds...but look how Vincent died... because of his complete and total incompetence. Neither one of the Vega brothers have any credible feats aside from killing some unarmed people. Micky and Mallory have better feats....they survived through a lot worse, killed more people, and escaped from prison. .

Vince made a simple, very stupid mistake that ended his life..Mickey and Mallory were just complete idiots, who were talented at what they did, but if you want to bring in who had the better mind, and try and defend the two who left innocent victims alive just...because of their complete and utter insanity, and proceeded to then get themselves noticed by other innocent people and have to kill them too...Vince may have made a mistake, but Mickey/Mallory were just complete psychopathic morons.

Psychopathic Morons...with better feats. And at least they have being crazy as an excuse...getting killed by your own gun by the guy you were sent to kill is retarded...and it wasn't the only mistake he made. Both him and Jules should have been killed earlier by the guy hiding in the bath room of the apartment but "God Intervened"...and there's also the guy that vince shot in the face in the back of the car. he then proceeded to make himself look like an idiot in front of Mr. Wolf. And letting his boss' wife OD on his heroin.

As for Vic...he's just as psycho as Micky and Mallory...unless you are forgetting that he was killed because he was about to set a man on fire after cutting off his ear.

Being psycho is fine, as long as your not stupid enough to seduce a guy at the gas station with your psychotic boyfriend abusing the hostage in the car, while he knows who you are. Their feats are killing idiots as well, it's not like those people they killed were very evasive in their movements. In fact it was pretty easy to go in there and own someone without any fighting skill. Mickey and Mallory are talented, but they need to at least act decently smart if they're going up against other killers. They haven't displayed that..in fact they displayed lower intelligence then average..in other words, they're stupid and need to play it smart to win, which they can't.

Biased? Why do you think Mickey and Mallory are so stupid? Dude broke out of prison twice. Which is more than Mr. Blonde ever did.

But then again Mr.Blonde somehow managed to kidnap a cop in during a frantic scene.

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@Yai_Inn: Because they're unintelligent. I'm not biased, they're simply unintelligent. Talented at what they do, but they're definitely not smart.

Walking out the front door of a prison seemed pretty smart / bad a$$ feat at the time. They are far smarter than the other two. Also intelligence isn't that big of a concern in this battle. Whoever has the better shot is gonna win. And Mickey has the best stare down shoot outs here. 
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@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Mickey and Mallory take this. Vincent was fairly incompetent and a heroin junkie. He accidentally shot a dude, allowed his boss' wife to snort his heroin and got killed by his own weapon that he left lying around when he went to take a dump by the guy he was sent to kill. Vic was a sociopath who got killed by an undercover cop that was bleeding out 10 feet away. The best feats either of them have is killing a few unarmed people.

Yes, because Mickey and Mallory were completely competent on their own...

I'm not saying micky and mallory are criminal masterminds...but look how Vincent died... because of his complete and total incompetence. Neither one of the Vega brothers have any credible feats aside from killing some unarmed people. Micky and Mallory have better feats....they survived through a lot worse, killed more people, and escaped from prison. .

Vince made a simple, very stupid mistake that ended his life..Mickey and Mallory were just complete idiots, who were talented at what they did, but if you want to bring in who had the better mind, and try and defend the two who left innocent victims alive just...because of their complete and utter insanity, and proceeded to then get themselves noticed by other innocent people and have to kill them too...Vince may have made a mistake, but Mickey/Mallory were just complete psychopathic morons.

Psychopathic Morons...with better feats. And at least they have being crazy as an excuse...getting killed by your own gun by the guy you were sent to kill is retarded...and it wasn't the only mistake he made. Both him and Jules should have been killed earlier by the guy hiding in the bath room of the apartment but "God Intervened"...and there's also the guy that vince shot in the face in the back of the car. he then proceeded to make himself look like an idiot in front of Mr. Wolf. And letting his boss' wife OD on his heroin.

As for Vic...he's just as psycho as Micky and Mallory...unless you are forgetting that he was killed because he was about to set a man on fire after cutting off his ear.

Being psycho is fine, as long as your not stupid enough to seduce a guy at the gas station with your psychotic boyfriend abusing the hostage in the car, while he knows who you are. Their feats are killing idiots as well, it's not like those people they killed were very evasive in their movements. In fact it was pretty easy to go in there and own someone without any fighting skill. Mickey and Mallory are talented, but they need to at least act decently smart if they're going up against other killers. They haven't displayed that..in fact they displayed lower intelligence then average..in other words, they're stupid and need to play it smart to win, which they can't.

Neither can Vic or Vince...and Micky and Mallory at least killed people with guns. Say what you want about their intelligence..Vince and Vic have no great showings of brain power either. Bottom line is...they have the better feats. Vincent only killed 3 people in the movie and one was an accident. We never even saw Vic kill anyone...but apparently he killed a few cashiers and maybe a couple of cops. We know Mickey and Mallory have a much higher death toll...and more varied ways of killing.

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@slacker the hacker: Do we count off panel/camera feats? 
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@slacker the hacker said:

@Yai_Inn said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Mickey and Mallory take this. Vincent was fairly incompetent and a heroin junkie. He accidentally shot a dude, allowed his boss' wife to snort his heroin and got killed by his own weapon that he left lying around when he went to take a dump by the guy he was sent to kill. Vic was a sociopath who got killed by an undercover cop that was bleeding out 10 feet away. The best feats either of them have is killing a few unarmed people.

Yes, because Mickey and Mallory were completely competent on their own...

I'm not saying micky and mallory are criminal masterminds...but look how Vincent died... because of his complete and total incompetence. Neither one of the Vega brothers have any credible feats aside from killing some unarmed people. Micky and Mallory have better feats....they survived through a lot worse, killed more people, and escaped from prison. .

Vince made a simple, very stupid mistake that ended his life..Mickey and Mallory were just complete idiots, who were talented at what they did, but if you want to bring in who had the better mind, and try and defend the two who left innocent victims alive just...because of their complete and utter insanity, and proceeded to then get themselves noticed by other innocent people and have to kill them too...Vince may have made a mistake, but Mickey/Mallory were just complete psychopathic morons.

Psychopathic Morons...with better feats. And at least they have being crazy as an excuse...getting killed by your own gun by the guy you were sent to kill is retarded...and it wasn't the only mistake he made. Both him and Jules should have been killed earlier by the guy hiding in the bath room of the apartment but "God Intervened"...and there's also the guy that vince shot in the face in the back of the car. he then proceeded to make himself look like an idiot in front of Mr. Wolf. And letting his boss' wife OD on his heroin.

As for Vic...he's just as psycho as Micky and Mallory...unless you are forgetting that he was killed because he was about to set a man on fire after cutting off his ear.

Being psycho is fine, as long as your not stupid enough to seduce a guy at the gas station with your psychotic boyfriend abusing the hostage in the car, while he knows who you are. Their feats are killing idiots as well, it's not like those people they killed were very evasive in their movements. In fact it was pretty easy to go in there and own someone without any fighting skill. Mickey and Mallory are talented, but they need to at least act decently smart if they're going up against other killers. They haven't displayed that..in fact they displayed lower intelligence then average..in other words, they're stupid and need to play it smart to win, which they can't.

Biased? Why do you think Mickey and Mallory are so stupid? Dude broke out of prison twice. Which is more than Mr. Blonde ever did.

But then again Mr.Blonde somehow managed to kidnap a cop in during a frantic scene.

We don't really see how he manages it though...could have just been dumb luck.

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@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Mickey and Mallory take this. Vincent was fairly incompetent and a heroin junkie. He accidentally shot a dude, allowed his boss' wife to snort his heroin and got killed by his own weapon that he left lying around when he went to take a dump by the guy he was sent to kill. Vic was a sociopath who got killed by an undercover cop that was bleeding out 10 feet away. The best feats either of them have is killing a few unarmed people.

Yes, because Mickey and Mallory were completely competent on their own...

I'm not saying micky and mallory are criminal masterminds...but look how Vincent died... because of his complete and total incompetence. Neither one of the Vega brothers have any credible feats aside from killing some unarmed people. Micky and Mallory have better feats....they survived through a lot worse, killed more people, and escaped from prison. .

Vince made a simple, very stupid mistake that ended his life..Mickey and Mallory were just complete idiots, who were talented at what they did, but if you want to bring in who had the better mind, and try and defend the two who left innocent victims alive just...because of their complete and utter insanity, and proceeded to then get themselves noticed by other innocent people and have to kill them too...Vince may have made a mistake, but Mickey/Mallory were just complete psychopathic morons.

Psychopathic Morons...with better feats. And at least they have being crazy as an excuse...getting killed by your own gun by the guy you were sent to kill is retarded...and it wasn't the only mistake he made. Both him and Jules should have been killed earlier by the guy hiding in the bath room of the apartment but "God Intervened"...and there's also the guy that vince shot in the face in the back of the car. he then proceeded to make himself look like an idiot in front of Mr. Wolf. And letting his boss' wife OD on his heroin.

As for Vic...he's just as psycho as Micky and Mallory...unless you are forgetting that he was killed because he was about to set a man on fire after cutting off his ear.

Being psycho is fine, as long as your not stupid enough to seduce a guy at the gas station with your psychotic boyfriend abusing the hostage in the car, while he knows who you are. Their feats are killing idiots as well, it's not like those people they killed were very evasive in their movements. In fact it was pretty easy to go in there and own someone without any fighting skill. Mickey and Mallory are talented, but they need to at least act decently smart if they're going up against other killers. They haven't displayed that..in fact they displayed lower intelligence then average..in other words, they're stupid and need to play it smart to win, which they can't.

Neither can Vic or Vince...and Micky and Mallory at least killed people with guns. Say what you want about their intelligence..Vince and Vic have no great showings of brain power either. Bottom line is...they have the better feats. Vincent only killed 3 people in the movie and one was an accident. We never even saw Vic kill anyone...but apparently he killed a few cashiers and maybe a couple of cops. We know Mickey and Mallory have a much higher death toll...and more varied ways of killing.

Again how difficult was it to kill those people? How did it show their skill? Vince killed people with guns, I don't see what that has to do with anything at all. Mickey was a good marksman, Mallory was a wild psychotic murderer. And they're at least trained killers, Vincent at the least being a hitman. He's not unintelligent, and is trained enough to need though on how to make killing him successfully work with Vincent being prepared. But they can't think very well, because...well..they're again, stupid.

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@HBKTimHBK said:

@Yai_Inn: Because they're unintelligent. I'm not biased, they're simply unintelligent. Talented at what they do, but they're definitely not smart.

Walking out the front door of a prison seemed pretty smart / bad a$$ feat at the time. They are far smarter than the other two. Also intelligence isn't that big of a concern in this battle. Whoever has the better shot is gonna win. And Mickey has the best stare down shoot outs here.

It's not smart, that sounds like luck what you described. The latter being irrelevant. No they're not smarter, in fact their intelligence falls far below any average human being. They're red necks, who went out and got married, and couldn't even speak properly during the marriage. Trust me, I need proof on the great intelligence of Mickey and Mallory Knox, because it doesn't exist.

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#23  Edited By HBKTimHBK

All in all, the main point is: Mickey/Mallory and the Vega Brothers are both trained in killing people, especially Vincent due to being a hitman, and requires some wits in order to win this. Mickey and Mallory don't have any wit, so in my opinion the Brothers could just outsmart the two..plus Vincent is walking PIS at times, at least when he's shown to be prepared. Which he is.

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@HBKTimHBK: You can downplay Mickey and Mallory as "dumb rednecks" as much as you like...the fact of the matter is that neither of them have any examples of stupidity that rival those of the great Vincent Vega.

1. Failing to clear the apartment which almost lead to both him and Jules being killed.

2. Pointing a loaded gun at another man while in a car leading to that man being shot in the face.

3. While waiting in Butch's apartment to kill Butch when he walks in, he left his weapon out in the open while he goes off and takes a dump...leading to him being shot to death by that same weapon wielded by the man he was sent to kill in the first place.

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@HBKTimHBK: You can downplay Mickey and Mallory as "dumb rednecks" as much as you like...the fact of the matter is that neither of them have any examples of stupidity that rival those of the great Vincent Vega.

1. Failing to clear the apartment which almost lead to both him and Jules being killed.

2. Pointing a loaded gun at another man while in a car leading to that man being shot in the face.

3. While waiting in Butch's apartment to kill Butch when he walks in, he left his weapon out in the open while he goes off and takes a dump...leading to him being shot to death by that same weapon wielded by the man he was sent to kill in the first place.

1. Can't speak clearly at their own wedding

2. Leave potential victims alive SPECIFICALLY to tell the police who they are. In fact it kinda just becomes their thing to do..

3. After this murder spree, Mallory seduces a random guy, and is almost caught

You can ignore the fact that they're idiots all you want...but they're idiots, go watch the movie, they're very unintelligent. It's part of their character.

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@HBKTimHBK: Again, I've never claimed that they are smart...I'm just saying Vincent is stupider than they are.

Leaving Witnesses alive was part of their signature...It's a style thing. They wanted the police to know who they were...they wanted everyone to know. They wanted the fame. It's not stupid...it's crazy.

Can't speak clearly at their wedding? this makes them stupid?

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@HBKTimHBK: Again, I've never claimed that they are smart...I'm just saying Vincent is stupider than they are.

Leaving Witnesses alive was part of their signature...It's a style thing. They wanted the police to know who they were...they wanted everyone to know. They wanted the fame. It's not stupid...it's crazy.

Can't speak clearly at their wedding? this makes them stupid?

Vincent can speak fluent sentences, Mickey and Mallory were uneducated. Yes. And no, it's poor tactics and easily led for them being hunted down on a national manhunt, and even when they knew they were doing that, they still went out and seduced and did whatever they please and risk getting caught even more. Yes, they're much more unintelligent, they're supposed to be.

I know you're not claiming they're smart, but they're complete idiots, yes that includes compared to Vince.

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@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK: Again, I've never claimed that they are smart...I'm just saying Vincent is stupider than they are.

Leaving Witnesses alive was part of their signature...It's a style thing. They wanted the police to know who they were...they wanted everyone to know. They wanted the fame. It's not stupid...it's crazy.

Can't speak clearly at their wedding? this makes them stupid?

Vincent can speak fluent sentences, Mickey and Mallory were uneducated. Yes. And no, it's poor tactics and easily led for them being hunted down on a national manhunt, and even when they knew they were doing that, they still went out and seduced and did whatever they please and risk getting caught even more. Yes, they're much more unintelligent, they're supposed to be.

The very fact that it took a national manhunt to track them down proves that they must be at least a little bit capable. Vincent got his own ambush turned against him by a guy that gets punched in the head for a living.

They escaped prison...again that shows they must be at least somewhat capable. Vic and Vincent have nothing even comparable.

I certainly don't see any evidence that the Vega Brothers "outwit" anyone.

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@HBKTimHBK: Seems like you think Red Necks who can't speak properly are unintellectual...  
Mickey was smart enough to realize the guy behind the counter for the snake bite venom had sounded a silent alarm.  
During his break out he positions himself next to a guard to elbow him in the face, while telling a joke and throwing a doughnut to distract another guard.  
He tapes cameras together to show the riot on live television so that the officers so don't execute him and Mallory. Mallory even says "lets go out in a hail of bullets" and he says something like yeah we'll do that if this doesn't work. He was clearly a schemer.  
Other feats these two did:  
- Mickey road a horse past a tornado to escape prison the first time.  
- Beat a man to death with a crowbar and burned an old lady alive.  
- Shot a cop coming out of a coffee shop.  
- Kidnapped someone. 
- Mallory takes a beating at breakfast for fun. Beats the crap out of the dude. Mickey cuts a guys finger off when he's pointing at him and launches the knife threw a window to kill his buddy. 
- They ditched a cop by driving down a dirt road out of town when they saw they were being followed.  
- Mallory shot a professional cyclist from a speeding car while he was riding down the road.  
- Mallory takes a beating from Jack Scagnetti and shakes if off.  
- Mickey realizes Jack's out of ammo when they're in a stare down.   
- They survive being bitten by a buttload of rattle snakes and get to town to a pharmacy and find anti-venom. And still have a deadly shoot out. And still beat the crap out of a handful of officers.  
- When they see the snakes Mickey's smart enough to create a torch to fend them off.  
^ They may not have real world intelligence or book smarts. But when it comes to killing people and getting away and breaking out of prison they're in their element.  
"I'm not saying I'd be a serial killer, but if I was, I'd be Mickey and Mallory Knox" they take this. 
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@Yai_Inn: I never said they weren't talented at what they do, in fact they're very good at it (specifically Mickey), but they need decent wits to take people who have also trained to kill people, at the very least Vincent has, due to being a hitman. And Mickey/Mallory were highly uneducated, yes, sorry to say, but they weren't exactly intellectual.

@Shawnbaby: The cops had no idea about Vincent and Jules throughout the entire movie, and they didn't walk into situations where they could endanger themselves and their chance at getting caught. I don't see how Mickey and Mallory have the wits to contend with anyone, they're talented, but they need more then just talent.

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@HBKTimHBK said:

@Yai_Inn: I never said they weren't talented at what they do, in fact they're very good at it (specifically Mickey), but they need decent wits to take people who have also trained to kill people, at the very least Vincent has, due to being a hitman. And Mickey/Mallory were uneducated, yes, sorry to say, but they weren't exactly intellectual.

@Shawnbaby: The cops had no idea about Vincent and Jules throughout the entire movie, and they didn't walk into situations where they could endanger themselves and their chance at getting caught. I don't see how Mickey and Mallory have the wits to contend with anyone, they're talented, but they need more then just talent.

Again, they wanted fame. if they killed everyone...they wouldn't get any fame. they needed survivors to "tell the tale of Mickey and Mallory". They were creating their own legend. It's not "stupid" to leave witnesses alive if you want your fame to grow. It would be stupid to kill everyone...because then no on could tell the tale. Leaving witnesses accomplished an objective.

Vincent didn't have the wits to contend with a Boxer even when he had every single possible advantage he could hope for... against 2 seasoned killers what chance does he have?

At least Mickey and Mallory had Talent...Vincent and Vic don't display any at all. Well...that's not true....They are both pretty swell dancers.

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@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Yai_Inn: I never said they weren't talented at what they do, in fact they're very good at it (specifically Mickey), but they need decent wits to take people who have also trained to kill people, at the very least Vincent has, due to being a hitman. And Mickey/Mallory were uneducated, yes, sorry to say, but they weren't exactly intellectual.

@Shawnbaby: The cops had no idea about Vincent and Jules throughout the entire movie, and they didn't walk into situations where they could endanger themselves and their chance at getting caught. I don't see how Mickey and Mallory have the wits to contend with anyone, they're talented, but they need more then just talent.

Again, they wanted fame. if they killed everyone...they wouldn't get any fame. they needed survivors to "tell the tale of Mickey and Mallory". They were creating their own legend. It's not "stupid" to leave witnesses alive if you want your fame to grow. It would be stupid to kill everyone...because then no on could tell the tale. Leaving witnesses accomplished an objective.

Vincent didn't have the wits to contend with a Boxer even when he had every single possible advantage he could hope for... against 2 seasoned killers what chance does he have?

At least Mickey and Mallory had Talent...Vincent and Vic don't display any at all. Well...that's not true....They are both pretty swell dancers.

If the boxer had a gun, and Mickey and Mallory were in the bathroom unarmed, I'm sure it would have ended the same way. And you keep skipping the part where they keep getting themselves caught after they release themselves to all that fame. They couldn't keep themselves concealed enough from the public eye to at least go to a gas station? But that's not all they did at the gas station.

At least the Vincent Brothers were on an average human intelligence...Mickey and Mallory don't display any at all. Well...that's not true...they both had pretty good luck.

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#33  Edited By Yai_Inn
@HBKTimHBK: Vincent was a strung out heroin addict who drove a car into a house... he's the dumbest one in this battle.  
Check this video Mickey has wits...  
  
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@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Yai_Inn: I never said they weren't talented at what they do, in fact they're very good at it (specifically Mickey), but they need decent wits to take people who have also trained to kill people, at the very least Vincent has, due to being a hitman. And Mickey/Mallory were uneducated, yes, sorry to say, but they weren't exactly intellectual.

@Shawnbaby: The cops had no idea about Vincent and Jules throughout the entire movie, and they didn't walk into situations where they could endanger themselves and their chance at getting caught. I don't see how Mickey and Mallory have the wits to contend with anyone, they're talented, but they need more then just talent.

Again, they wanted fame. if they killed everyone...they wouldn't get any fame. they needed survivors to "tell the tale of Mickey and Mallory". They were creating their own legend. It's not "stupid" to leave witnesses alive if you want your fame to grow. It would be stupid to kill everyone...because then no on could tell the tale. Leaving witnesses accomplished an objective.

Vincent didn't have the wits to contend with a Boxer even when he had every single possible advantage he could hope for... against 2 seasoned killers what chance does he have?

At least Mickey and Mallory had Talent...Vincent and Vic don't display any at all. Well...that's not true....They are both pretty swell dancers.

If the boxer had a gun, and Mickey and Mallory were in the bathroom unarmed, I'm sure it would have ended the same way. And you keep skipping the part where they keep getting themselves caught after they release themselves to all that fame. They couldn't keep themselves concealed enough from the public eye to at least go to a gas station? But that's not all they did at the gas station.

At least the Vincent Brothers were on an average human intelligence...Mickey and Mallory don't display any at all.

Mickey and Mallory didn't go anywhere unarmed. They certainly didn't leave their weapons out in the open while they went to take a crap. In the apartment of the man they were sent to kill. Sorry, as stupid as you want to make M&M out to be...Vincent is more stupid.

These two "idiots" as you call them had to be tracked down by a nation wide manhunt.

And you gloss over the fact that mickey managed to orchestrate an escape from prison. It shows he's at least a little bit clever.

And you have yet to show any sort of feats that suggest that Vic and Vince had any kind of intelligence at all. All you have done is try and talk down Mickey and Mallory.

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@HBKTimHBK: I know the movie. I don't see what your point is though. She goes out is recognized and shots someone. You know that scene had nothing to do with them getting caught right? If anything at all it shows how capable they are at getting away. 
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@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Yai_Inn: I never said they weren't talented at what they do, in fact they're very good at it (specifically Mickey), but they need decent wits to take people who have also trained to kill people, at the very least Vincent has, due to being a hitman. And Mickey/Mallory were uneducated, yes, sorry to say, but they weren't exactly intellectual.

@Shawnbaby: The cops had no idea about Vincent and Jules throughout the entire movie, and they didn't walk into situations where they could endanger themselves and their chance at getting caught. I don't see how Mickey and Mallory have the wits to contend with anyone, they're talented, but they need more then just talent.

Again, they wanted fame. if they killed everyone...they wouldn't get any fame. they needed survivors to "tell the tale of Mickey and Mallory". They were creating their own legend. It's not "stupid" to leave witnesses alive if you want your fame to grow. It would be stupid to kill everyone...because then no on could tell the tale. Leaving witnesses accomplished an objective.

Vincent didn't have the wits to contend with a Boxer even when he had every single possible advantage he could hope for... against 2 seasoned killers what chance does he have?

At least Mickey and Mallory had Talent...Vincent and Vic don't display any at all. Well...that's not true....They are both pretty swell dancers.

If the boxer had a gun, and Mickey and Mallory were in the bathroom unarmed, I'm sure it would have ended the same way. And you keep skipping the part where they keep getting themselves caught after they release themselves to all that fame. They couldn't keep themselves concealed enough from the public eye to at least go to a gas station? But that's not all they did at the gas station.

At least the Vincent Brothers were on an average human intelligence...Mickey and Mallory don't display any at all.

Mickey and Mallory didn't go anywhere unarmed. They certainly didn't leave their weapons out in the open while they went to take a crap. In the apartment of the man they were sent to kill. Sorry, as stupid as you want to make M&M out to be...Vincent is more stupid.

These two "idiots" as you call them had to be tracked down by a nation wide manhunt.

And you gloss over the fact that mickey managed to orchestrate an escape from prison. It shows he's at least a little bit clever.

And you have yet to show any sort of feats that suggest that Vic and Vince had any kind of intelligence at all. All you have done is try and talk down Mickey and Mallory.

The Vega Brothers were at least averagely educated compared to Mickey/Mallory. He made a mistake while they compromised, again you skip, that they compromised themselves too many times for many idiotic reasons. Mickey was able to break out of prison through almost luck and taking advantage of incompetent guards through the use of jokes.

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@Yai_Inn said:

@HBKTimHBK: I know the movie. I don't see what your point is though. She goes out is recognized and shots someone. You know that scene had nothing to do with them getting caught right? If anything at all it shows how capable they are at getting away.

I know the movie too, point is she's stupid enough to have sex with someone after going on a murder spree and announcing to the country that Mickey and Mallory Knox are dangerous killers. You think someone with "wits" as you say they both have so much of, would do that? Vincent made a simple mistake and left his gun out, Mallory compromised her identity after going on a murder spree with a manhunt after her.

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@HBKTimHBK said:

@Yai_Inn said:

@HBKTimHBK: I know the movie. I don't see what your point is though. She goes out is recognized and shots someone. You know that scene had nothing to do with them getting caught right? If anything at all it shows how capable they are at getting away.

I know the movie too, point is she's stupid enough to have sex with someone after going on a murder spree and announcing to the country that Mickey and Mallory Knox are dangerous killers.

In what way is that stupid? Having sex makes you stupid? It didn't lead to them getting caught. They are mass murdering serial killers who escape a national wide manhunt. And you can say the escape is just because of dumb guards and luck, but their capture is just because of rattle snakes and bad luck. 
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@Yai_Inn said:

@HBKTimHBK said:

@Yai_Inn said:

@HBKTimHBK: I know the movie. I don't see what your point is though. She goes out is recognized and shots someone. You know that scene had nothing to do with them getting caught right? If anything at all it shows how capable they are at getting away.

I know the movie too, point is she's stupid enough to have sex with someone after going on a murder spree and announcing to the country that Mickey and Mallory Knox are dangerous killers.

In what way is that stupid? Having sex makes you stupid? It didn't lead to them getting caught. They are mass murdering serial killers who escape a national wide manhunt. And you can say the escape is just because of dumb guards and luck, but their capture is just because of rattle snakes and bad luck.

Yes, going out in public and having sex with a random guy as your name and face spreads throughout the region for being wanted, makes you pretty dang stupid.

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@HBKTimHBK: And here's Vincent Vega's greatest hits: If this amounts to your definition of "average intelligence"...I weep for the future.

Pointing a loaded gun at a man while riding in a car

Wasting valuable time by giving Mr. Wolf a hard time while he's trying to fix Vincent's Screw up

Getting shot by his own gun by the man he was sent to kill

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#42  Edited By HBKTimHBK

@Yai_Inn: @Shawnbaby: Now if you will mind excusing me, it's getting quite late.

And if you consider two hillbillies unable to speak proper sentences at their own wedding, and reveal their identities while having sex with some random guy after becoming house hold names as wanted murderers smarter then that...I could say the same. But this is over, there's no need to continue, we both have brought up the same event over and over.

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#43  Edited By Yai_Inn
@HBKTimHBK: Yes you have tried to low ball Mickey and Mallory's intelligence because they are "unable to speak proper sentences at their own wedding" News flash, however you speak is entirely irrelevant. They could be speaking in Dutch they could be mute - it doesn't matter how you speak, they are still more efficient at killing people. 
  
Now you have claimed that Vic and Vince are trained hitmen. But the evidence from the films leans more towards failure goons. Vic is the reason the heist fails, or so claims Mr. White. Calling Vic an amateur, hot head, mad man who goes off on a shooting spree. Vincent, if he were "trained" would likely have known to bring the semi automatic weapon with him to the bathroom, or if he had half a brain that wasn't strung out on heroin.  
 
You have said that M&M are stupid for going out? What are they suppose to do? Stay inside and never be seen again? Putting on a disguise is step one, which she does. When she is recognized she kills the person. This is smart. Leaving that person alive would be stupid.  
On the other hand, the Vega boys only escape the law because of the support from others. Namely Mr. White and Mr. Wolf - Harvey Keitel.  
The Vega brothers were such failures that if you left them alone in this battle there's a chance they shoot each other.