#1 Posted by Stingerrain (985 posts) - - Show Bio

- Full knowledge

- Standard equipment

- In-Character

- Winner by Death or KO

- Setting is an empty city block

#2 Posted by Stingerrain (985 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

#3 Posted by Rick_Grayson (727 posts) - - Show Bio

good match up, I *think* Vamp may just edge it due to his speed, but I haven't read anything with gambit in a while, I'm open to convincing that I'm wrong

#4 Posted by The_Roman (3297 posts) - - Show Bio

I'mma say Vamp mostly due to speed.

#5 Posted by jwalser3 (4796 posts) - - Show Bio

Vamp, running on water, nuff said.

#6 Posted by The_Roman (3297 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwalser3 said:

Vamp, running on water, nuff said.

And casually leaning out of the way of bullets.

And sitting on water.

And surviving getting shot in the head.

And blitzing Raiden.

#7 Posted by jashro44 (19149 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwalser3 said:

Vamp, running on water, nuff said.

And casually leaning out of the way of bullets.

And sitting on water.

And surviving getting shot in the head.

And blitzing Raiden.

I don't see how sitting on water means much....If anything it sort of takes away from vamp running on water. And IIRC when snake shot vamp in the head he was briefly incapacitated.

Vamp should still win a strong majority though. He has every advantage which matters.

#8 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Vamp wins this handily. Fast enough to dance around Cyborg Ninja Raiden. Can catch your shadow with a blade. Runs on water and 300 feet of vertical surface. Can swim in "Air Water". Has muscle reading ability. Wolverine Regen due to Nanomachines.

He wins this, flawless victory.

#9 Posted by Rick_Grayson (727 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't played that game in too long, forgot about half the stuff mentioned above. Yeah, Vamps not losing here.

#10 Posted by progenitor (7532 posts) - - Show Bio

Vamp would have the definite advantage here, especially with the surreal abilities the nanomachines give him. He was able to deflect automatic fire from a SEAL team just by spinning with a throwing blade in MGS2, held his own against cyborg Raiden and damaged him considerably in their first fight during MGS4 who showed very impressive feats in MG:Rising. I think that Gambit could put up a good show with his kinetic charge, but otherwise, I don't see him being able to put Vamp down.

#11 Posted by The_Roman (3297 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@the_roman said:

@jwalser3 said:

Vamp, running on water, nuff said.

And casually leaning out of the way of bullets.

And sitting on water.

And surviving getting shot in the head.

And blitzing Raiden.

I don't see how sitting on water means much....If anything it sort of takes away from vamp running on water. And IIRC when snake shot vamp in the head he was briefly incapacitated.

Vamp should still win a strong majority though. He has every advantage which matters.

Yeah, for all of five seconds.

#12 Posted by P0rtal (872 posts) - - Show Bio

Raiden = Fast enough to dodge Bullets, can lift and toss hundreds of tons with ease. Vamp pummeled Raiden. Gambit loses. Spite.

#13 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@the_roman said:

@jwalser3 said:

Vamp, running on water, nuff said.

And casually leaning out of the way of bullets.

And sitting on water.

And surviving getting shot in the head.

And blitzing Raiden.

I don't see how sitting on water means much....If anything it sort of takes away from vamp running on water. And IIRC when snake shot vamp in the head he was briefly incapacitated.

Vamp should still win a strong majority though. He has every advantage which matters.

Yeah, for all of five seconds.

Its impressive as he ran on the water so fast it left a Speed Boat splash trail behind him. He then from the water jump and ran straight up easy 300 feet of concrete column, he was booking.

#14 Posted by The_Roman (3297 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_roman said:

@jashro44 said:

@the_roman said:

@jwalser3 said:

Vamp, running on water, nuff said.

And casually leaning out of the way of bullets.

And sitting on water.

And surviving getting shot in the head.

And blitzing Raiden.

I don't see how sitting on water means much....If anything it sort of takes away from vamp running on water. And IIRC when snake shot vamp in the head he was briefly incapacitated.

Vamp should still win a strong majority though. He has every advantage which matters.

Yeah, for all of five seconds.

Its impressive as he ran on the water so fast it left a Speed Boat splash trail behind him. He then from the water jump and ran straight up easy 300 feet of concrete column, he was booking.

I was referring to him being incapacitated by a headshot.

Also, "Look at that son of a btch go! He haulin' a$$!"

#15 Posted by jashro44 (19149 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2:

Its impressive as he ran on the water so fast it left a Speed Boat splash trail behind him. He then from the water jump and ran straight up easy 300 feet of concrete column, he was booking.

I was saying that standing still on water isn't impressive not vamp running up walls and on water (all though vamp standing on water kind of takes away from him running on water).

@jashro44 said:

@the_roman said:

@jwalser3 said:

Vamp, running on water, nuff said.

And casually leaning out of the way of bullets.

And sitting on water.

And surviving getting shot in the head.

And blitzing Raiden.

I don't see how sitting on water means much....If anything it sort of takes away from vamp running on water. And IIRC when snake shot vamp in the head he was briefly incapacitated.

Vamp should still win a strong majority though. He has every advantage which matters.

Yeah, for all of five seconds.

He was incapacitated longer then that. Well over a minute.

1:50-4:15.

Just to clarify this isn't an argument for gambit. I just disagree with some of the showings that were brought up for vamp.

#16 Posted by fuukkee (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit kills him, easily, better in almost every aspect

@jwalser3 said:

Vamp, running on water, nuff said.

Vamp's running on water was due to developmental issues, they didn;t have time to put another boss, Chinaman, in MGS2 so they gave his wall and water running abilities to Vamp. They have nothing to do with speed either, otherwise Vamp wouldn't be able to stand and sit on the water either

@jwalser3 said:

Vamp, running on water, nuff said.

And casually leaning out of the way of bullets.

And sitting on water.

And surviving getting shot in the head.

And blitzing Raiden.

Vamp can casually lean out of the way of bullets because of his ability to hear muscle movements, when this didn't work fully on Raiden he had trouble hearing his muscles and

The rest of those feats are mediocre, getting shot in the head means nothing when Gambit can blow him to hell

#17 Posted by Xeno_Seeker (414 posts) - - Show Bio

vamp stomps.

#18 Posted by dondave (33399 posts) - - Show Bio

Vamp