The Fallen has sent Megatron on a special trip to Earth. But on the way he runs into the USS Enterprise. The battle is to the death. Who wins?
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The Fallen has sent Megatron on a special trip to Earth. But on the way he runs into the USS Enterprise. The battle is to the death. Who wins?
" Even the one from the original series would own Megatron. The weakest Enterprise still has enough weaponry to reduce a planet to an uninhabitable slag. This is a stomp. "Not with Kirk in command
" @Son_of_Magnus said:Kirk would go off and bone an Alien chick while the rest of the crew has to try to save them selves he is a terrible Captain" @Baldy said:Huh? What are you getting at? "" Even the one from the original series would own Megatron. The weakest Enterprise still has enough weaponry to reduce a planet to an uninhabitable slag. This is a stomp. "Not with Kirk in command "
" @Baldy said:Heh, so true." @Son_of_Magnus said:Kirk would go off and bone an Alien chick while the rest of the crew has to try to save them selves he is a terrible Captain "" @Baldy said:Huh? What are you getting at? "" Even the one from the original series would own Megatron. The weakest Enterprise still has enough weaponry to reduce a planet to an uninhabitable slag. This is a stomp. "Not with Kirk in command "
" I don't think there are any hot chick around Megatron. So no, they melt him into a slag. "Picard is still better =P
" @DedmanWalkin said:They wouldn't need to, they would detect him the second he was there and beam him into space." If he got onboard they would beam him off, in pieces. "don't think they'll anticipate a large metal figure being on board wrecking havoc or even using their own technology against them. "
" @Zenma said:have they beam something to that scale? What if Megatron hacked into the Enterprise since it is highly likely for him to do so." @DedmanWalkin said:They wouldn't need to, they would detect him the second he was there and beam him into space. "" If he got onboard they would beam him off, in pieces. "don't think they'll anticipate a large metal figure being on board wrecking havoc or even using their own technology against them. "
" @Baldy said:" @Zenma said:have they beam something to that scale? What if Megatron hacked into the Enterprise since it is highly likely for him to do so. "" @DedmanWalkin said:They wouldn't need to, they would detect him the second he was there and beam him into space. "" If he got onboard they would beam him off, in pieces. "don't think they'll anticipate a large metal figure being on board wrecking havoc or even using their own technology against them. "
The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him." @Zenma said:
" @Baldy said:" @Zenma said:have they beam something to that scale? What if Megatron hacked into the Enterprise since it is highly likely for him to do so. "" @DedmanWalkin said:They wouldn't need to, they would detect him the second he was there and beam him into space. "" If he got onboard they would beam him off, in pieces. "don't think they'll anticipate a large metal figure being on board wrecking havoc or even using their own technology against them. "
The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. Also phasers(guns) on max would melt him. Even if he can get somehow trought the shields he will have no chance of getting trought the hull of the ship. But let's say he destorys the ship. In that case he would also die from the warp core breach.
Even a shuttle would destroy megatron, even some dudes with phasers would be able to take him down ...
Now the Enterprise has lots of other things that could fight him. Even the tractor beam could keep him away from the ship.
This is a stomp. It would make for a better fight if it was Data (with a phaser) vs Megatron (data has 5 mins to hide).
have they beam something to that scale? They have no need to teleport all of megatron in space. Just target his head and beam that... "
" @Xan said:Except for sabot rounds that can apparently melt his armor, missiles, which can apparently blow him to pieces, and basically every piece of tech Star Trek has. They can f****** teleport vast distances through space. Megatron still has to turn in to a jet. They can stop supernovas with a specially created liquid. Can Megatron?The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. I don't think so, Megatron existed for an incredibly long time, I don't think any human technology can surpass Megatron's. "" @Zenma said:
" @Baldy said:" @Zenma said:have they beam something to that scale? What if Megatron hacked into the Enterprise since it is highly likely for him to do so. "" @DedmanWalkin said:They wouldn't need to, they would detect him the second he was there and beam him into space. "" If he got onboard they would beam him off, in pieces. "don't think they'll anticipate a large metal figure being on board wrecking havoc or even using their own technology against them. "
The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. Also phasers(guns) on max would melt him. Even if he can get somehow trought the shields he will have no chance of getting trought the hull of the ship. But let's say he destorys the ship. In that case he would also die from the warp core breach.
Even a shuttle would destroy megatron, even some dudes with phasers would be able to take him down ...
Now the Enterprise has lots of other things that could fight him. Even the tractor beam could keep him away from the ship.
This is a stomp. It would make for a better fight if it was Data (with a phaser) vs Megatron (data has 5 mins to hide).
have they beam something to that scale? They have no need to teleport all of megatron in space. Just target his head and beam that... "
" @Zenma said:" @Xan said:Except for sabot rounds that can apparently melt his armor, missiles, which can apparently blow him to pieces, and basically every piece of tech Star Trek has. They can f****** teleport vast distances through space. Megatron still has to turn in to a jet. They can stop supernovas with a specially created liquid. Can Megatron?"The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. I don't think so, Megatron existed for an incredibly long time, I don't think any human technology can surpass Megatron's. "" @Zenma said:
" @Baldy said:" @Zenma said:have they beam something to that scale? What if Megatron hacked into the Enterprise since it is highly likely for him to do so. "" @DedmanWalkin said:They wouldn't need to, they would detect him the second he was there and beam him into space. "" If he got onboard they would beam him off, in pieces. "don't think they'll anticipate a large metal figure being on board wrecking havoc or even using their own technology against them. "
The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. Also phasers(guns) on max would melt him. Even if he can get somehow trought the shields he will have no chance of getting trought the hull of the ship. But let's say he destorys the ship. In that case he would also die from the warp core breach.
Even a shuttle would destroy megatron, even some dudes with phasers would be able to take him down ...
Now the Enterprise has lots of other things that could fight him. Even the tractor beam could keep him away from the ship.
This is a stomp. It would make for a better fight if it was Data (with a phaser) vs Megatron (data has 5 mins to hide).
have they beam something to that scale? They have no need to teleport all of megatron in space. Just target his head and beam that... "
" @Xan said:Hahahahahaha.The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. I don't think so, Megatron existed for an incredibly long time, I don't think any human technology can surpass Megatron's. "" @Zenma said:
" @Baldy said:" @Zenma said:have they beam something to that scale? What if Megatron hacked into the Enterprise since it is highly likely for him to do so. "" @DedmanWalkin said:They wouldn't need to, they would detect him the second he was there and beam him into space. "" If he got onboard they would beam him off, in pieces. "don't think they'll anticipate a large metal figure being on board wrecking havoc or even using their own technology against them. "
The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. Also phasers(guns) on max would melt him. Even if he can get somehow trought the shields he will have no chance of getting trought the hull of the ship. But let's say he destorys the ship. In that case he would also die from the warp core breach.
Even a shuttle would destroy megatron, even some dudes with phasers would be able to take him down ...
Now the Enterprise has lots of other things that could fight him. Even the tractor beam could keep him away from the ship.
This is a stomp. It would make for a better fight if it was Data (with a phaser) vs Megatron (data has 5 mins to hide).
have they beam something to that scale? They have no need to teleport all of megatron in space. Just target his head and beam that... "
" @Zenma said:look I ain't saying he is better equipped or capable of destroying the Enterprise on his own technology, but he may be one of the most intelligent being with capabilities to manipulate the tech on Enterprise, he is able to do so. Sabot rounds are able to damage him due to its high heat intensity which reacts with his armor, but it is a projectile, doesn't need to be high tech to leave damage. Not saying Megatron will win head on, but if he gets on board, I don't know if they can just simply teleport his parts away unless they clearly had done that before." @Xan said:Except for sabot rounds that can apparently melt his armor, missiles, which can apparently blow him to pieces, and basically every piece of tech Star Trek has. They can f****** teleport vast distances through space. Megatron still has to turn in to a jet. They can stop supernovas with a specially created liquid. Can Megatron? "The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. I don't think so, Megatron existed for an incredibly long time, I don't think any human technology can surpass Megatron's. "" @Zenma said:
" @Baldy said:" @Zenma said:have they beam something to that scale? What if Megatron hacked into the Enterprise since it is highly likely for him to do so. "" @DedmanWalkin said:They wouldn't need to, they would detect him the second he was there and beam him into space. "" If he got onboard they would beam him off, in pieces. "don't think they'll anticipate a large metal figure being on board wrecking havoc or even using their own technology against them. "
The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. Also phasers(guns) on max would melt him. Even if he can get somehow trought the shields he will have no chance of getting trought the hull of the ship. But let's say he destorys the ship. In that case he would also die from the warp core breach.
Even a shuttle would destroy megatron, even some dudes with phasers would be able to take him down ...
Now the Enterprise has lots of other things that could fight him. Even the tractor beam could keep him away from the ship.
This is a stomp. It would make for a better fight if it was Data (with a phaser) vs Megatron (data has 5 mins to hide).
have they beam something to that scale? They have no need to teleport all of megatron in space. Just target his head and beam that... "
" @Lance Uppercut said:No he isn't. The Enterprise is FAR more advanced than Megatron. Have you never seen Star Trek? He's not even that smart, Data would pwn him in the intelligence department." @Zenma said:look I ain't saying he is better equipped or capable of destroying the Enterprise on his own technology, but he may be one of the most intelligent being with capabilities to manipulate the tech on Enterprise, he is able to do so. Sabot rounds are able to damage him due to its high heat intensity which reacts with his armor, but it is a projectile, doesn't need to be high tech to leave damage. Not saying Megatron will win head on, but if he gets on board, I don't know if they can just simply teleport his parts away unless they clearly had done that before. Computer wise, Megatron is more intelligent and advanced, you haven't said anything about that. "" @Xan said:Except for sabot rounds that can apparently melt his armor, missiles, which can apparently blow him to pieces, and basically every piece of tech Star Trek has. They can f****** teleport vast distances through space. Megatron still has to turn in to a jet. They can stop supernovas with a specially created liquid. Can Megatron? "The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. I don't think so, Megatron existed for an incredibly long time, I don't think any human technology can surpass Megatron's. "" @Zenma said:
" @Baldy said:" @Zenma said:have they beam something to that scale? What if Megatron hacked into the Enterprise since it is highly likely for him to do so. "" @DedmanWalkin said:They wouldn't need to, they would detect him the second he was there and beam him into space. "" If he got onboard they would beam him off, in pieces. "don't think they'll anticipate a large metal figure being on board wrecking havoc or even using their own technology against them. "
The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. Also phasers(guns) on max would melt him. Even if he can get somehow trought the shields he will have no chance of getting trought the hull of the ship. But let's say he destorys the ship. In that case he would also die from the warp core breach.
Even a shuttle would destroy megatron, even some dudes with phasers would be able to take him down ...
Now the Enterprise has lots of other things that could fight him. Even the tractor beam could keep him away from the ship.
This is a stomp. It would make for a better fight if it was Data (with a phaser) vs Megatron (data has 5 mins to hide).
have they beam something to that scale? They have no need to teleport all of megatron in space. Just target his head and beam that... "
" @Zenma said:Is the computer a self aware AI? Unless you show proof that it is, Megatron is more intelligent, also he was fighting most of the time, something that intelligence over technology does not have a large part in." @Lance Uppercut said:No he isn't. The Enterprise is FAR more advanced than Megatron. Have you never seen Star Trek? He's not even that smart, Data would pwn him in the intelligence department. "" @Zenma said:look I ain't saying he is better equipped or capable of destroying the Enterprise on his own technology, but he may be one of the most intelligent being with capabilities to manipulate the tech on Enterprise, he is able to do so. Sabot rounds are able to damage him due to its high heat intensity which reacts with his armor, but it is a projectile, doesn't need to be high tech to leave damage. Not saying Megatron will win head on, but if he gets on board, I don't know if they can just simply teleport his parts away unless they clearly had done that before. Computer wise, Megatron is more intelligent and advanced, you haven't said anything about that. "" @Xan said:Except for sabot rounds that can apparently melt his armor, missiles, which can apparently blow him to pieces, and basically every piece of tech Star Trek has. They can f****** teleport vast distances through space. Megatron still has to turn in to a jet. They can stop supernovas with a specially created liquid. Can Megatron? "The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. I don't think so, Megatron existed for an incredibly long time, I don't think any human technology can surpass Megatron's. "" @Zenma said:
" @Baldy said:" @Zenma said:have they beam something to that scale? What if Megatron hacked into the Enterprise since it is highly likely for him to do so. "" @DedmanWalkin said:They wouldn't need to, they would detect him the second he was there and beam him into space. "" If he got onboard they would beam him off, in pieces. "don't think they'll anticipate a large metal figure being on board wrecking havoc or even using their own technology against them. "
The enterprise computers are way more advanced them him. Also phasers(guns) on max would melt him. Even if he can get somehow trought the shields he will have no chance of getting trought the hull of the ship. But let's say he destorys the ship. In that case he would also die from the warp core breach.
Even a shuttle would destroy megatron, even some dudes with phasers would be able to take him down ...
Now the Enterprise has lots of other things that could fight him. Even the tractor beam could keep him away from the ship.
This is a stomp. It would make for a better fight if it was Data (with a phaser) vs Megatron (data has 5 mins to hide).
have they beam something to that scale? They have no need to teleport all of megatron in space. Just target his head and beam that... "
Take a look at the Enterprise size, did I say undetected or manage to fit in comfortably? Being on board could mean to be actually inside the Enterprise or tearing inside." @AtPhantom said:
" @Zenma said:Heh that to. xD "" Getting to the Enterprise is just incredibly hard for Megatron, but if he manages to get on board, the Enterprise has no defense when he is inside. "Get on board? He's a fifty foot giant, how the hell is he going to get on board? "
" @Baldy said:I think it'd take a while for him to tear his way in, he'd need to hollow out a space big enough for himself on a ship designed for use by humanoids. I don't think he's going to have enough time to do anything like that. Even if he did get in how is he going to interface with the computer?Take a look at the Enterprise size, did I say undetected or manage to fit in comfortably? Being on board could mean to be actually inside the Enterprise or tearing inside. Again this is a "what if" situation "" @AtPhantom said:
" @Zenma said:Heh that to. xD "" Getting to the Enterprise is just incredibly hard for Megatron, but if he manages to get on board, the Enterprise has no defense when he is inside. "Get on board? He's a fifty foot giant, how the hell is he going to get on board? "
"@Baldy said:Take a look at the Enterprise size, did I say undetected or manage to fit in comfortably? Being on board could mean to be actually inside the Enterprise or tearing inside. Again this is a "what if" situation "" @AtPhantom said:
" @Zenma said:Heh that to. xD "" Getting to the Enterprise is just incredibly hard for Megatron, but if he manages to get on board, the Enterprise has no defense when he is inside. "Get on board? He's a fifty foot giant, how the hell is he going to get on board? "
" @Zenma said:Megatron won't have any chance to get to the Enterprise I agree on that. Weaponry will destroy him, they are a ship scale level firepower not some smaller tank firepower."@Baldy said:First explain how Megatron actually gets the Enterprise-C within his weapons range (which is what, maybe a mile according to the movie?) without being annihilated by phasers and photon torpedoes, then we'll get to your "What If" situation. Is Megatron's chassis strong enough to resist photon torpedoes when it barely resists bullets? Are sabot rounds hotter than Phasers?Is his space-plane form fast enough to catch up to the Enterprise? "Take a look at the Enterprise size, did I say undetected or manage to fit in comfortably? Being on board could mean to be actually inside the Enterprise or tearing inside. Again this is a "what if" situation "" @AtPhantom said:
" @Zenma said:Heh that to. xD "" Getting to the Enterprise is just incredibly hard for Megatron, but if he manages to get on board, the Enterprise has no defense when he is inside. "Get on board? He's a fifty foot giant, how the hell is he going to get on board? "
" @Zenma said:" @Baldy said:I think it'd take a while for him to tear his way in, he'd need to hollow out a space big enough for himself on a ship designed for use by humanoids. I don't think he's going to have enough time to do anything like that. Even if he did get in how is he going to interface with the computer? "Take a look at the Enterprise size, did I say undetected or manage to fit in comfortably? Being on board could mean to be actually inside the Enterprise or tearing inside. Again this is a "what if" situation "" @AtPhantom said:
" @Zenma said:Heh that to. xD "" Getting to the Enterprise is just incredibly hard for Megatron, but if he manages to get on board, the Enterprise has no defense when he is inside. "Get on board? He's a fifty foot giant, how the hell is he going to get on board? "
" @Satyrquaze said:I think at best they'd have phasers. Megatron has a great AI but I don't think he's as powerful a computer as the one on the Enterprise, and besides that I can't image them not having some kind of counter measure for that kind of thing. Another thing to point out is that while the Enterprise is already slightly damaged it's currently configured for war against the Klingons, not exploration. Unless I'm getting my Star Trek episodes confused." @Zenma said:Megatron won't have any chance to get to the Enterprise I agree on that. Weaponry will destroy him, they are a ship scale level firepower not some smaller tank firepower."@Baldy said:First explain how Megatron actually gets the Enterprise-C within his weapons range (which is what, maybe a mile according to the movie?) without being annihilated by phasers and photon torpedoes, then we'll get to your "What If" situation. Is Megatron's chassis strong enough to resist photon torpedoes when it barely resists bullets? Are sabot rounds hotter than Phasers?Is his space-plane form fast enough to catch up to the Enterprise? "Take a look at the Enterprise size, did I say undetected or manage to fit in comfortably? Being on board could mean to be actually inside the Enterprise or tearing inside. Again this is a "what if" situation "" @AtPhantom said:
" @Zenma said:Heh that to. xD "" Getting to the Enterprise is just incredibly hard for Megatron, but if he manages to get on board, the Enterprise has no defense when he is inside. "Get on board? He's a fifty foot giant, how the hell is he going to get on board? "
@Baldy said:" @Zenma said:The hull will depend on where he is trying to breach, but as long as there is an exposed wiring or electronic system, he can hack into it, doesn't need to be at the bridge. Then again if the crew has heavy weaponry on board, then they can resist Megatron. "" @Baldy said:I think it'd take a while for him to tear his way in, he'd need to hollow out a space big enough for himself on a ship designed for use by humanoids. I don't think he's going to have enough time to do anything like that. Even if he did get in how is he going to interface with the computer? "Take a look at the Enterprise size, did I say undetected or manage to fit in comfortably? Being on board could mean to be actually inside the Enterprise or tearing inside. Again this is a "what if" situation "" @AtPhantom said:
" @Zenma said:Heh that to. xD "" Getting to the Enterprise is just incredibly hard for Megatron, but if he manages to get on board, the Enterprise has no defense when he is inside. "Get on board? He's a fifty foot giant, how the hell is he going to get on board? "
" kirk gets out,gos hand to hand for a while,wig falls off,gos back in and sends 50 torpedoes up meagtrons steel pipe.game over. "Knowing Kirk's methods, he would use a tractor beam on Megatron. Drag him to where Magatron is practically hugging the Enterprise and then set the Enterprise to self-destruct. "No worries... They'll just build me a new one."
"No worries... They'll just build me a new one." "
" @-Data- said:That brings up a good question. Picard's whole trek through the star was moderated by Q, who had accused and is judging Picard due to man's actions of being barbaric creatures. Why hadn't Q done this on Kirk? .... Perhaps he was scared of the wig raged Captain?"No worries... They'll just build me a new one." "Kirk got away with murder with his run as captain. Crew man dieing every away mission, I believe getting scotty's nephew killed as well due to him just being a bad captain and generoully being a cowboy captain, shoot first ask questions later. Which may have been fine for the time period Kirk was in. Picard had to be a hell of a lot more diplomatic to make sure the whole Galaxy doesn't go to war. "
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