Edited 2 months, 8 days ago

Poll: USNC vs Star Ship troopers (novel versions) (13 votes)

UNSC 23%
Star Ship troopers 69%
Too Close to call 8%

UNSC:

100,000 Marines (Assault rifles, 2 grenades each)

20,000 ODST, can be remotely deployed (SMG's, Rockets, and grenade launchers)

200 emplaced machine guns

50 emplaced anti tank guns

100 M850 Scorpion tanks (upgraded)

500 warthogs (machine gun variants)

100 Mantis walkers

100 wolverines

500 YS-1000 fighters

vs:

Star Ship Troopers:

200,000 Soldiers (assault rifles, 2 grenades each)

300 M18 walkers

200 drop ships

500 F-76 fighters

Rules:

Prep:

6 Hours each

Gear:

Standard unless specified

Battlefield:

Stalingrad, The unsc starts out in the center of the city and the star ship troopers start in the out skirts.

Victory conditions:

UNSC wins if repulse the star ship troopers attack. The troopers win if they force the UNSC out of the city they win.

Version:

Composite

Who wins?

#1 Posted by Army2442 (1799 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually,

I messed up there are supposed to be:

700 F-76 fighters

450 M-18 walkers

#2 Posted by Doom_Phd (585 posts) - - Show Bio

The Troopers are fully Mechanize if I recall they wreck.

#3 Posted by Army2442 (1799 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

#4 Posted by Army2442 (1799 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

#5 Posted by Strider92 (16720 posts) - - Show Bio

Novel versions of troopers are OP as hell.

#6 Posted by Remnet (91 posts) - - Show Bio

Troopers are walking tanks in the novel. The Marauder power armour suites make even the Space Marries look like babies in comparison. The average trooper should be able to 1v1 a Mantis and win.

#7 Edited by SightlessReality (613 posts) - - Show Bio

Troopers, they have greater numbers just as a start.

#8 Posted by daHOLYxboxmastr (46 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna say the UNSC

You have to give them credit that they fought off the entire covenant armada and stopped the parasitic flood as well as the Prometheans

It'll be close but the UNSC would still win

But with SPARTANS...they'd win completely

#9 Posted by Army2442 (1799 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

#10 Posted by JwwProd (10031 posts) - - Show Bio

Mobile Infantry curbstomps.

#11 Edited by Wut (1341 posts) - - Show Bio

@daholyxboxmastr: UNSC never fought off the Covenant Armada, the fleet that attacked Reach was one of several. The Fleet that attacked earth was not a true Covenant 'armada' and more of escort ships leading the Prophet to what they thought was an empty world, not the capital of the UNSC and the Covenant still nearly overwhelmed the UNSC defenses. The UNSC only beat Covenant fleets when they outnumbered them 3 to 1, and they still lost more then they gave (Covenant have far more ships then the UNSC). They only survived because they kept the locations of their planets secret forcing the Covenant to have to blind guess where they were and because the Covenant fought a civil war against itself.

Never fought off the flood either. The Covenant had to glass half of Africa to stop the spread.

UNSC are massively overrated.

#12 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20387 posts) - - Show Bio

@wut said:

@daholyxboxmastr: UNSC never fought off the Covenant Armada, the fleet that attacked Reach was one of several. The Fleet that attacked earth was not a true Covenant 'armada' and more of escort ships leading the Prophet to what they thought was an empty world, not the capital of the UNSC and the Covenant still nearly overwhelmed the UNSC defenses. The UNSC only beat Covenant fleets when they outnumbered them 3 to 1, and they still lost more then they gave (Covenant have far more ships then the UNSC). They only survived because they kept the locations of their planets secret forcing the Covenant to have to blind guess where they were and because the Covenant fought a civil war against itself.

Never fought off the flood either. The Covenant had to glass half of Africa to stop the spread.

UNSC are massively overrated.

This. You know your Halo.

Though to be fair the UNSC did a lot better in ground combat than in space (especially with SPARTANs).

#13 Edited by daHOLYxboxmastr (46 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm talking from the help of the master chief

And this is between the Star Ship troopers and UNSC

The UNSC would still win

#14 Posted by Wut (1341 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: They did better on ground, but the Covenant still held the advantage in nearly all battles as their units are vastly superior with the only exception being Spartans.

But as the Covenant love to show, land battles mean very little in a galactic war as the fleets are what is important. Beat the Covenant on the land, and they will just turn your planet into a glass ball.

#15 Edited by Ultragreenboy (2053 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought it was unsc

But I think they take it

#16 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20387 posts) - - Show Bio

@wut said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: They did better on ground, but the Covenant still held the advantage in nearly all battles as their units are vastly superior with the only exception being Spartans.

But as the Covenant love to show, land battles mean very little in a galactic war as the fleets are what is important. Beat the Covenant on the land, and they will just turn your planet into a glass ball.

That's what happened to Reach :P

No wait the UNSC lost Reach in ground warfare too lol

#17 Posted by JwwProd (10031 posts) - - Show Bio
#18 Posted by Wut (1341 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: Yep lol they did. The Covenent just didn't want to waste time fighting pockets of resistance, they had better things to do with their time.

#19 Posted by Killerwasp (5494 posts) - - Show Bio

Novel versions of troopers are OP as hell.

#20 Posted by Killerwasp (5494 posts) - - Show Bio

@wut: like trying to find cortana and stuff XD

#21 Posted by Wut (1341 posts) - - Show Bio

@killerwasp: And trying to blow up the universe! Or killing that pesky Demon with his Devil's gifted Plot Shield of 'Luck'

#22 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20387 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought it was unsc

But I think they take it

It is UNSC (United Nations Space Command).

#23 Posted by Killerwasp (5494 posts) - - Show Bio

@wut: no i meant they were trying to find.... cortana... Xd

#24 Edited by Wut (1341 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Posted by Killerwasp (5494 posts) - - Show Bio

@wut: *rubs forehead* no the pms lol XD they are trying... to find cortana lol thats why they waged a war against humanity. Thats also they the light bulb tried to kill/betray MC he wanted her as well ( hint that's how she hacked him so well ). XD

#26 Posted by Wut (1341 posts) - - Show Bio

@killerwasp: Lol ohhh the bodysuit. Gotcha. >.> You dirty person you.

#27 Posted by Callous_Adherent (334 posts) - - Show Bio

SSTs have tactical nukes passed around to the mobile infantry like candy and jump around like quake players on crack. 'The UNSC won't know what hit them until the horizon glows with mushroom clouds.

#28 Posted by Killerwasp (5494 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by Callous_Adherent (334 posts) - - Show Bio

The surviving UNSC troopers will be left with a warm fuzzy feeling inside, not the relief that they are alive as they would initially think, but the sensation of their organs slowly cooking from the left-over radiation.

#30 Posted by Doom_Phd (585 posts) - - Show Bio

For every bullet the UNSC has the SST have a nuke to answer it with.

#31 Edited by Detrolord (2765 posts) - - Show Bio

200,000 Soldiers (assault rifles, 2 grenades each)

2 grenades means 2 nuke grenades each that can literary destroy 7 tall buildings

10,000 MI is enough to destroy the entire UNSC in this battle

if we check the position of the UNSC which start in the city and SST which start at the outskirt hmmm its so owning

SST are experts in raids and bombs have 200,000 MI nuke the hell out of the entire city damn UNSC wish they where fighting the Covenant right now

Stomp for SST

Heres my last post since many people who doesn't know the SST novel and only knows the Movie version

@detrolord said:

Let me give you some backgrounds on SST the Terran Federation MI's

Mobile Infantry in the book are armored infantry soldiers that relies on shock mobility and firepower. Every MI's is armed will small arms to micro-nuclear warheads that can destroy a horde of Arachnids with armor and guns they are highly intelligent bugs. MI's armor gives them an impression of a 8ft steel gorilla enough strength to cripple and lift a tank with its power and destroy concrete walls by just walking unto it. They can also be drop at the orbit with only its suits. MI's also can jump 200-300 ft wide and 300-400 ft tall and can hover to the air at 10 min max. Infantry pride themselves on Espirit de Corps,never leave a wounded soldier all Mobile Infantry Men will fight to the lowest to highest ranks. While their powered suits give them extreme strength, they are also dextrous enough to hold a chicken egg without breaking it or, somewhat more practically, fight Arachnids in hand-to-hand combat. MI standing one mile apart is considered to be fighting "shoulder to shoulder. Every MI's are trained in different martial arts.1 MI soldier every 10000 arachnid warriors. Basically they combined infantry, tank, airforce into one.

MI's Strategies

Just jump over the bugs and spams and drop nukes at the bugs.

Weapons

  • 5 grenade nukes
  • 1 Tactical nukes every 5 Mi's
  • Plasma Flamers(Flamethrower like)
  • Laser Knife(Jedi?)
  • Auto-targetting machine guns
  • Coventional Rocket Launchers
  • All MI have "Y-racks" which are exactly what the name says: a dual bomb launcher that fires at a 45 degree angle away from either side of the MI. This is used for "bombing runs" through cities but probably not very useful against mobile enemies.

Vehicles whats that never seen no read one maybe?

  • Terran Mobile Infantry Drop Ship (Large and Small)
  • Neo Dogs? this ani't even a vehicle its a pet -_-
  • Maybe you mean the SISCON SST

Weakness

Unlike the other military branch MI's can only operate at 10 hrs max bouncing and hovering with breaks and around 4-5 hrs if they keep bouncing and hovering nonstop.

@remnet said:

Troopers are walking tanks in the novel. The Marauder power armour suites make even the Space Marries look like babies in comparison. The average trooper should be able to 1v1 a Mantis and win.

P.S. Air, Land and Sea Armor

@daholyxboxmastr said:

I'm talking from the help of the master chief

And this is between the Star Ship troopers and UNSC

The UNSC would still win

-_- all i can say you will need 400,000 of master chiefs w/ 400,000 cortana no millions of them

#32 Posted by Detrolord (2765 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm people who voted for UNSC and close call never red the Novel -_-

i wish they make a movie true to the Novel

#33 Posted by Remnet (91 posts) - - Show Bio

@detrolord: Did you ever watch Starship Troopers Invasion? The armour might still not be on the same level as in the novel, but its a more faithful to the source material compared to the live action film.

#34 Posted by Detrolord (2765 posts) - - Show Bio

@remnet said:

@detrolord: Did you ever watch Starship Troopers Invasion? The armour might still not be on the same level as in the novel, but its a more faithful to the source material compared to the live action film.

Yes i watch that but..................

  • Armor is 2 big its should be 8 ft
  • Arachnids are the same
  • Arachnids don't have the Beam guns that can slice a MI in half
  • Arachnids don't have fleets of Spaceships
  • No Tactical Nukes and Nuke Grenades

Don't get me wrong i love that movie but its not really near the book and its plot but its the most neared than the SISCON or the Movie Version trust me if we have a SST Movie, Anime, Series i will find it and watch the hell out of it.

#35 Posted by Remnet (91 posts) - - Show Bio

@detrolord: There is a six part OVA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_(OVA)

#36 Posted by Detrolord (2765 posts) - - Show Bio

@remnet said:

@detrolord: There is a six part OVA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_(OVA)

Hmm seen this b4 and i was looking for the Figure of that

#37 Posted by Eisenfauste (8352 posts) - - Show Bio

Movie versions of MI would go down, but as stated in this thread the novelized versions are ridiculously OP. They slaughter the UNSC.

#38 Posted by Detrolord (2765 posts) - - Show Bio

@army2442

Sup man i think you kinda misspelled the UNSC to USNC