Yeah I think Ben has got this one. U.S. Agent is no joke. but I don't think he's over the 10 mark in terms of strength, and while he's quicker, I don't think he's a better fighter than Ben (thought they are probably pretty close int erms of fighting skills) I think with the armor and shield he'll put up a good fight, but I think Thing has it all over this fight.
Am I the only one who thinks that John Walker has atleast "some" chance here? He's like Captain America on steroids, with Vibranium armor and not as reserved in his actions as Cap is. His strength is like 8 - 9 times Cap's too!
U.S.Agent has 5+ ton strength. Cap maxed out at 1,150 lbs I believe, bench pressing.
Cap trained John Walker in his highly effective fighting style, well enough to where they stalemate.
If Cap were 8 - 9 times stronger and had Vibranium armor, everone here would argue that he could take Thing. So why not U.S.Agent?
Lastly, I like Ben Grimm more than John Walker, but here I think U.S.Agent has a better shot at a KO than people are giving him credit for.
Agent, like you said, was trained by Cap and if they arent equal in skill they are pretty darn close, though feats may not support that (and feats are a big deal in battle threads, so...). That and his armor/shield combo would lead me to think he could get at least 2 out of 10. He would have to be at the absolute top of his game though to do it...
" Am I the only one who thinks that John Walker has atleast "some" chance here? He's like Captain America on steroids, with Vibranium armor and not as reserved in his actions as Cap is. His strength is like 8 - 9 times Cap's too! U.S.Agent has 5+ ton strength. Cap maxed out at 1,150 lbs I believe, bench pressing. Cap trained John Walker in his highly effective fighting style, well enough to where they stalemate. If Cap were 8 - 9 times stronger and had Vibranium armor, everone here would argue that he could take Thing. So why not U.S.Agent? Lastly, I like Ben Grimm more than John Walker, but here I think U.S.Agent has a better shot at a KO than people are giving him credit for. John Walker aka U.S.Agent ftw, atleast 3+/10? "
U.S Agent is class 10...not class 5.He also wasn't trained by Cap he was trained by Taskmaster.
" Am I the only one who thinks that John Walker has atleast "some" chance here? He's like Captain America on steroids, with Vibranium armor and not as reserved in his actions as Cap is. His strength is like 8 - 9 times Cap's too! U.S.Agent has 5+ ton strength. Cap maxed out at 1,150 lbs I believe, bench pressing. Cap trained John Walker in his highly effective fighting style, well enough to where they stalemate. If Cap were 8 - 9 times stronger and had Vibranium armor, everone here would argue that he could take Thing. So why not U.S.Agent? Lastly, I like Ben Grimm more than John Walker, but here I think U.S.Agent has a better shot at a KO than people are giving him credit for. John Walker aka U.S.Agent ftw, atleast 3+/10? "
U.S Agent is class 10...not class 5.He also wasn't trained by Cap he was trained by Taskmaster. "
Does he have feats to prove himself as a ten tonner?and is'nt it 2-10 tons?
" Am I the only one who thinks that John Walker has atleast "some" chance here? He's like Captain America on steroids, with Vibranium armor and not as reserved in his actions as Cap is. His strength is like 8 - 9 times Cap's too! U.S.Agent has 5+ ton strength. Cap maxed out at 1,150 lbs I believe, bench pressing. Cap trained John Walker in his highly effective fighting style, well enough to where they stalemate. If Cap were 8 - 9 times stronger and had Vibranium armor, everone here would argue that he could take Thing. So why not U.S.Agent? Lastly, I like Ben Grimm more than John Walker, but here I think U.S.Agent has a better shot at a KO than people are giving him credit for. John Walker aka U.S.Agent ftw, atleast 3+/10? "
U.S Agent is class 10...not class 5.He also wasn't trained by Cap he was trained by Taskmaster. "
Does he have feats to prove himself as a ten tonner?and is'nt it 2-10 tons? "
He may but I'm not sure...I'm just giving what is stated in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe.I've never seen anything that suggests his strength is below 10 tons.The most i've seen for his strength is hitting superhuman characters and actually hurting them but people whom are weaker than him have done the same.
" Am I the only one who thinks that John Walker has atleast "some" chance here? He's like Captain America on steroids, with Vibranium armor and not as reserved in his actions as Cap is. His strength is like 8 - 9 times Cap's too! U.S.Agent has 5+ ton strength. Cap maxed out at 1,150 lbs I believe, bench pressing. Cap trained John Walker in his highly effective fighting style, well enough to where they stalemate. If Cap were 8 - 9 times stronger and had Vibranium armor, everone here would argue that he could take Thing. So why not U.S.Agent? Lastly, I like Ben Grimm more than John Walker, but here I think U.S.Agent has a better shot at a KO than people are giving him credit for. John Walker aka U.S.Agent ftw, atleast 3+/10? "
U.S Agent is class 10...not class 5.He also wasn't trained by Cap he was trained by Taskmaster. "
Does he have feats to prove himself as a ten tonner?and is'nt it 2-10 tons? "
He may but I'm not sure...I'm just giving what is stated in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe.I've never seen anything that suggests his strength is below 10 tons.The most i've seen for his strength is hitting superhuman characters and actually hurting them but people whom are weaker than him have done the same. "
Agent has a decent Chance , I'm not sure who'd win .
He's had extensive training from Taskmaster so he could fight exactly like Steve .
He's 10 tons (although thats argueable but I'll say 10) so a sheild weilded by him is capable of hurting the thing very badly , He could definetly chip parts of him away , and Thing has no chance at dodging , he's unagile and slow , not to mention huge .
Ben is a lot stronger however , he could potentially one shot him , however in his Vibranium suit i can't see Thing one shotting him , and other shots could be blocked by is sheild or dodged , as US Agent is superhumanly fast if i recall correctly.
It's a good fight but for the sake of it I will say , US Agent.
Agent has a decent Chance , I'm not sure who'd win .
He's had extensive training from Taskmaster so he could fight exactly like Steve .
He's 10 tons (although thats argueable but I'll say 10) so a sheild weilded by him is capable of hurting the thing very badly , He could definetly chip parts of him away , and Thing has no chance at dodging , he's unagile and slow , not to mention huge .
Ben is a lot stronger however , he could potentially one shot him , however in his Vibranium suit i can't see Thing one shotting him , and other shots could be blocked by is sheild or dodged , as US Agent is superhumanly fast if i recall correctly.
It's a good fight but for the sake of it I will say , US Agent.
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Ben's strength isn't the problem..his durability is.Characters far stronger than US Agent have trouble keeping Ben down.
I figure the Vibranium armor and shield will essentially nullify Bens attacks and a couple full strength shots to the eyes with the shield spinning backfist style using the edge of the shield followed by 5 or 10 punt kicks to the groin by U.S.Agent will put Ben down.
" I figure the Vibranium armor and shield will essentially nullify Bens attacks and a couple full strength shots to the eyes with the shield spinning backfist style using the edge of the shield followed by 5 or 10 punt kicks to the groin by U.S.Agent will put Ben down. "
" I figure the Vibranium armor and shield will essentially nullify Bens attacks and a couple full strength shots to the eyes with the shield spinning backfist style using the edge of the shield followed by 5 or 10 punt kicks to the groin by U.S.Agent will put Ben down. "
US Agent is at about Peak Human Speed, whilst Blade is at low level Super Human Speed, the Speed difference isn't too big. "
Why do people just make up stats for him? U.S Agent's speed is superhuman..he's just not as fast as Blade.It's that simple.Blade has easily tagged characters way faster than U.S Agent and kept up with them.That's it..that's all.
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