Unworthy Thor Runs A Gauntlet

@foolsgold: Copy that. It seems mid tier bricks seem to be written more inconsistently writer to writer than higher tier ones do.

Yea.... She Hulk also beat down Iron Man, who is a Hundred Tonner and Punched Doc Samson across a state in recent times IIRC.

@lvenger said:

@foolsgold said:

The Ax has also cut Galactus :P

I'm assuming you're talking about this scan right mate?

And I guess the fact that makes this feat even better is that it wasn't wielded by Thor when this happened? That adds a new wrinkle to the final fight of this gauntlet, I admit. Still, Hulk does have the chance to overpower Thor physically before that happens. Thor only has one chance of winning without Mjolnir, Hulk has many.

Oh nice. I completely forgot about this instance. I guess this proves that a clean swing from the Axe will not be shrugged off by Hulk. However, Hulk still has some notable advantages on his side such as speed, healing, and striking. Overall, I see it going either way in the final round.

Stops at 3, 6 or 9

@lvenger: I believe thors axe was specifically enchanted to cut through celestial armour, it's sharp as hell but being tagged by it won't be a kill shot as many people think. Thor has to get a direct swing on hulks head to take him out, judging by how fast hulk has been recently and the potential he has to disarm thor relatively quickly I don't see thor landing that kill shot for a majority.

How come it cut through Galactus then?

@foolsgold: because it's sharp as hell, I already mentioned that. Just being tagged by it however won't be a kill shot as many people seem to think.

Besides, mjolnir has done more damage to galactus than that, knocking his head back isn't anything special.

@thedailybagel: As People noted, Thor's grand daughter's are likely well below Thor in strength.

@foolsgold: keyword there is 'likely'

@granitesoldier: @thor_parker82: This one's for you bros. let's get started with:

SUPER-SPEED

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Now folks, this isn't something yo would see everyday folks. But your eyes don't deceive you thsis is Thor himself blitzing somebody at lightning speed.

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Thor has sum skillz

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This blitzing, I like it. ANOTHER!

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Looks like there are things even Heimdall can^t see

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This is what happens if you spend too much time on battle forums.

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I think I have shown enough to prove that micro-second feat isn'^t just a one off and also keep in mind Zefra is a speedster created using Thor's DNA

Thor blocking the laser after it's fired.

And now...

WEATHER MANIPULATION WITHOUT HAMMER

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''The weather be to him as your arms to you. Yet his arms reach to the sky itself.''

Hope you enjoyed it. sorry if I bothered you.

BTW I too think the final round could go ether way.

@spiderman1997: Thor is vastly underestimated here, I appreciate the work put into bringing these scans together. I thought it was common knowledge that weather manipulation came from Thor himself and Mjolnir was simply an instrument he could channel it through? Regardless, here are two more micro-second reaction feats Thor has. (Blocks the Wrecker's attack micro-seconds before it impacts his helmet/can swing at bullets as they are shot at him).

@spiderman1997: Hulk has better, and more recent, speed feats. The problem that people neglect sometimes with Marvel is that they never rebooted but characters do evolve, change, and then not every older feat is viable. For example Punisher shooting Spidey, which happened how long ago? When you factor in more recent feats of Peter it isn't really viable.

Granted I think Thor can clear up to Hulk now, but I still don't see him beating Hulk if he fights as he typically does against Hulk which is to brawl.

@namor_curry: Thanks man. Somemone asked me for the weather manipulation scabs so I posted it BTW big thanks to @lvenger: for them.

@granitesoldier: I don't know. That's why I think the final fight is a coin toss but Thor may also try and finish the job quick if he gets fruatrated like he did to Ulik or even to Hulk himself at one point. And I have never really seen Thor getting blitzed by above street level characters. Well, tgere was Angela but there was a context to it. That's why I think we never really see people like Glads or Hyperion blitzing him and fights like the Wolverine fight justsemms straight up jobbing.

@spiderman1997: Hulk's speed upgrade is recent. Out running explosions, catching planes that appear behind people, moving faster than Iron Man's sensors can track...Hulk has some serious speed behind all that power. Thor hasn't squared off against Hulk recently, so that doesn't mean we should assume it can't happen. Hyperion couldn't blitz Hulk either in their recent exchange, and Hulk's blows seemed to be doing some pretty good damage.

When did he do that?

Indestructible 2 if memory serves.

@unbreakable_fs4: I feel similarly, I've swung back to Hulk's side now though based on GR's posts

Correct, it was specifically enchanted to cut through Celestial armour. However, cutting through Galactus when wielded by one of his granddaughters, who's almost assuredly physically inferior Asgardian compared to her grandfather, shows how sharp it is. And the problem is that just as Thor regularly chooses to brawl with Hulk, so too does Hulk choose to brawl with Thor. He's never used his recent string of speedblitzes against Thor at all so this is the same argument that Hulk supporters use to argue that Thor won't use his hammer's full potential due to how he fights. Things do fall on Hulk's side for a majority currently though.

Eh I've cited 6-7 instances of Thor getting blitzed by street level foes on a consistent basis before. He's been shown up by loads of street levellers many times before. If Hulk were to use his speed on Thor, he'd be able to outpace and outpunch Thor with his superior speed. It's far from jobbing, it's consistent with Thor's showings of combat speed and reflexes.

@granitesoldier: He didn't move faster than iron mans sensors. Tony was dealing with the fracker, and hulk tackled iron man out of the way before it blew up.

And he didn't know what saved him till they were on the next mountain. It's not "explicit" like people prefer, but he was definitely moving fast. Especially if you consider the rate of decay for an explosion.

@lvenger: I don't think thor has fought hulk since before paks run, unless you count Nul. hulk was blitzing constantly when he was in frost giant land (I'm not even going to attempt spelling it) with thor.

If they had an exchange nowadays, the main difference is that thor never uses mjolnir versatility on hulk, that's been proven. Hulk however has only in recent years started to use his speed, hence why he hasn't blitzed thor.

@granitesoldier: I don't recall any indication iron man didn't know hulk saved him.

I'd need to re-read to site it precisely, or perhaps @ghostravage can clarify.

@granitesoldier: Yea I'll need to reread it as well.

Did he blitz when fighting Hyperion? When fighting the Chronarchists? When fighting that Abomination clone? When fighting A Bomb? When fighting Skaar? See my point? Just because he was blitzing whilst fighting alongside Thor doesn't equate to blitzing Thor consistently in battle. In an in character battle that is.

@lvenger: Agreed. What are those 6-7 instances though ? I only know Woverine, the one with with Cap's son and probably Cap hself duting Jugen's run though Thor was severely weakened.

Do anybody know the issue when he was defeated by Invisible Woman? I could see him stopping at Sue but that might be pushing it.

Punisher has shot Peter with a Shotgun quite recently though. I don't really have too much of a problem with Frank tagging Peter as he's proven himself to be an exceptional marksman.

Thor fries him with lightning. Oh he clears.

@foolsgold: Are you talking about that silly moment where Punisher shoots Peter point blank? Guys dodges mach 2+ sniper rounds and that is acceptable? If that's the instance I see it as plot moment.

I'm not trying to debate or anything, but what the hell is going on here? Did everyone lose the ability to dodge? In terms of combat and reaction speed Thor is one of the slowest characters in comics. I mean seriously. I understand that he has an axe capable of taking out celestials, but so what? It's calling dodging or simply knocking the axe out his hand. Saying he can one-shot everyone with the axe isn't really a sufficient argument. I could make the same arguments for characters like Aquaman, Katana, Nemesis, etc. The all have weapons the could essentially one-shot a lot of the characters they face off against. However, they still need to tag there opponents and the same goes for Thor. I'm just saying.

You're forgetting one thing, not everyone is saying he clears because of his axe, this is morals off Thor, he could just spam lightening, which would at the very least stun everybody in this gauntlet and at the most KO/Kill, and there is NOBODY in this gauntlet who is fast enough to dodge a lightening spam attack,if thats what Thor choose to do.

Eh, he's shot Peter's webshooter off, he's shot Peter with dummy rounds before. He's shot Peter on at least three ocassions. I don't think Every scenario Peter has with Castle ends that way far from it, however, espicially with morals- I don't see it as unfeasible that frank can tag Peter.

@lethologica: someone had to say it.

He's point isn't valid.

Thor can clear this via lightening spamming, or lightening stun/Axe throw combo.He has extremely good aim with the axe.

@sophisticated_ignorance:

I never mentioned Thor's lightning. I mentioned how people were trying using the argument that Thor can one-shot everyone with his axe as a valid argument. So yes. My point is fully valid.

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Well. That settles that.

@foolsgold: Feasible? Certainly. Likely? Not as much. Like Peter struggling with peak humans, I consider it not as plot based, since Frank is quite the exceptional marksman, but I feel like there is an element of writer influence.

But, no one's perfect and that's what makes the stories go round.

@bflynn316: Wolverine and X-23 are so far up the list because of the endless jokes about how Thor is so slow, and can be tagged by Wolverine. (which he can) and without flight, it is much easier for him to be tagged.

Fair enough.

lol wut?

@lvenger: If one of Thor's grand-daughters successfully tagged Galactus, a being far more powerful than herself then what is to say Thor will not land one hit on Hulk? That Galactus scan should solidify that it hurts higher-tier cosmics, not just Celestials.

I'm not sold on Hulk's speed being a legitimate factor in this fight, to be completely honest. It's not an argument I buy into in regards to someone like Hulk. All he does is bull-rush a few times which isn't impressive at all.

I find it hard to believe that Thor would not land one strike with his Axe on someone like Hulk, who has a knack of fighting Thor in a certain style.

It's bait.

@frozen: In fairness, Galactus is a pretty big target to hit lol

ah i see

@jestersmiles: Relax, it's not that serious..

Thor did swat aside an already fired Sniper rifle round not long ago in Inhuman 004

Casually letting it bounce off his hammer

His reactions are clearly way above human when he wants them to be

@baronu: Celestials are still beyond everyone else in this gaunlet regardless.