Unofficial Comic Vine Character Tier List
@nick_hero22:
I agree with that one but tier 1 is messed up.
@Enzeru:
Okay I will add man of miracles.
@GrandSymbiote94: I disagree. How hot are Cyclops beamsCyclops' Beams are concussive they have no heat to them that just a thing that they made in TV shows.
Cap is too high in my opinion he should be low enhanced human.Logan and Deadpool Are also too high in this their powers are not good enough to put them at high meta.
Cyclops should be low super human because whith his powers he could take out any of those guys without issue
@PikminMania said:So wouldn't that make Cyclops still on medium.@GrandSymbiote94: I disagree. How hot are Cyclops beamsCyclops' Beams are concussive they have no heat to them that just a thing that they made in TV shows. Cap is too high in my opinion he should be low enhanced human.Logan and Deadpool Are also too high in this their powers are not good enough to put them at high meta. Cyclops should be low super human because whith his powers he could take out any of those guys without issue
@Sherlock: @Sherlock said:My bad meant shouldnt with a T@PikminMania said:So wouldn't that make Cyclops still on medium.@GrandSymbiote94: I disagree. How hot are Cyclops beamsCyclops' Beams are concussive they have no heat to them that just a thing that they made in TV shows. Cap is too high in my opinion he should be low enhanced human.Logan and Deadpool Are also too high in this their powers are not good enough to put them at high meta. Cyclops should be low super human because whith his powers he could take out any of those guys without issue
@Sherlock: Cyclops can take on anyone in the medium bracket I'm pretty sure. Also Wolverine and Deadpool have the skill to beat anyone in the medium but I will at least put Deadpool in mediumCyke would own anyone there if he went all out and im going more be power rating though you may have i different idea for this one
I also think I should put Mr. Fantastic there or high tier 7..
@Sherlock: Yes now I see what you mean, to tier 6 and aaawwaayyy!! I also think I should put Mr. Fantastic there or high tier 7..Him im not a sure about i think his durability may put him there but im not much for Mr fantastic in terms of powers.Honestly he doesnt use them much
@PikminMania: This is the best Tier List I have ever seen. It is from KMC by user Digi:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t447826.html
The List
Tier 4 (Highest)
Amazo, Appolyon, The Asgardian Destroyer, Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Doomsday (H/P), Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Queen of Fables, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solusandra, Stayne, Strange Visitor, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus
Tier 3
High
Adam Warlock, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Cyborg Superman, Doomsday (Gog Wars), The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), Quasar, Qztr, Silver Surfer, Sinestro, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman, Swamp Thing, Talisman, Thor, Zoom II (Hunter Solomon)
Middle
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Bizarro Superman, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Count Nefaria, Damien Hellstrom, Etrigan, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, Firestorm, The Flash II (Barry Allen), The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), The General (Shaggy Man), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hulk, Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Juggernaut (Classic), Kid Omega, Kurse, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Metamorpho, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shaman, Skreet, Solomon Grundy, Supergirl, Supreme, Terrax the Tamer, Void (Wildstorm, no Creation Engine power), Waverider, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form), Wonder Woman
Low
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, Argent, The Atom, Aztek, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Death's Head 3.0, Death Metal, Doomsday (DOS), Dr. Doom (U), Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Light II (Kimiyo Hoshi), Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Enchantress, Engineer, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Forerunner, Gammid, Gilgamesh, Gold Key Solar, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, Green Lantern (Soranik Natu), Guardian I (James Hudson), He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hercules (Immortal), Iceman, Invincible, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Kalibak, Kang, Krypto, Lightray, Living Monolith, Loki (Ultimate), Lunatik, Madison Jeffries (BOX IV), Magneto (U), Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Marrina (Leviathan), Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nimrod, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Plastic Man, Power Girl, Prime, Professor X, Raven, Ravenous, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Shadow King, Snowbird, Starhawk, Starman, Super Skrull, Stryfe, Superboy, Tempest, Thor (Ultimate), Ultra Boy, Ultra-Humanite, Ultron, Union, Vulcan, Wendigo, Winter, Witchfire (Normal), Zauriel
Tier 2
High
Abomination, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, BOX I (Roger Bochs), Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus (U), Crystal, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Gamora, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian II (Heather Hudson), Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch (U), Invisible Woman (U), Iron Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Karate Kid, Living Laser, Machine Man, Manbot, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic (U), Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner (U), Nico Minoru, Nightshade, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Spiral, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing (U), Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Windshear, Wonder Man, Zzaxx
Middle
Adam Strange, Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blob, Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes), Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Carnage, Cloak, Corrin, Cyborg, Cyclops (U), Darkhawk, Death's Head, Death Wreck, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Farenheit, Flint, Fuji, Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze), Ghost Rider(Dan Ketch), Gorgon, Grace Choi, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, Jubilee, Karolina Dean, Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, Matua, M.O.D.O.K., Molly Hayes, Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Ogun, Omega Red, Quicksilver (classic), Ragman, Rogue, Rom, Sebastian Shaw, Shadowcat, Shift, Speedball, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Tiger Shark, Toxin, Vance Astro, Vengeance, Venom, Victor Mancha, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Wonder Girl, Yellowjacket (Hank Pym)
Low
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deadpool, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Man-Bat, Marrina (Normal), Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Multiple Man, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nuke, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Vermin, Vulture, Warpath, Wildchild, Wizard, Wulfgar, X-23
Tier 1
High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, The Cat, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Hush, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Rose Tattoo, Shang Chi (Ultimate), Taskmaster, Union Jack, Nightwing, Red Hood
Middle
Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Black Cat, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Crossbones, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Mach IV, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury (U), Nomad, Peacemaker, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Turok, Wildcat, Robin
Low
Alfred, Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Christine Trelane, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Obregon Kaine, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Talia, White Tiger
This.
Here's my Classes:
1. Street Level:
a) Peak Human: Characters who can consistently and/or perfectly do things that actual humans have actually done in real life. People who can fight H2H like a UFC Champion; utilize prep/weapons/equipment like a Navy SEAL; run/jump/climb like a parkour champ, an Olympic Gold Medalist and a Cirque de Soleil performer; and use vehicles like an X-Games champion or a Hollywood stunt driver. This is the realm of characters like Hawkeye and Nightwing.
b) Enhanced Peak Human: Characters who can do all of the above plus a bonus power. I'm thinking of Daredevil and Captain America here.
2. Block Buster: The definition here is that they could basically leave a whole city block in ruins, probably knocking down some buildings, on their own without relying on external weapons. It gets tricky here because there's guys like Batman or the Punisher who are essentially always carrying around explosives as standard equipment, but I'd rather put them in Street Level Peak Human with an asterik.
a) Low: I'm thinking more along the lines of Spider-man and Gambit. Most of these guys can't be killed by a regular citizen with a gun.
b) High: More along the lines of like She-Hulk or Ms. Marvel. Cyclops is at this level in terms of what he can dish out, but he's so physically weak relative to that.
3. City Buster: A Block Buster could maybe destroy block after block, but under normal circumstances they'd wear out or it would take so long that they'd be stopped well before it got to that. A City Buster, on the other hand, has the power to destroy a whole major city and could get it done fast enough or have the defensive capabilities to accomplish such destruction most of the time. They would not have the energy projection or speed to be a planetary threat however. I think Iron Man is this level and probably Storm, except she's so physically vulnerable.
4. Planetary Threat: Here's where we start to get to the cross-over level threats.
a) Event Level: Magneto, Hulk, Juggernaut....they could all mess up the planet if they went on a rampage and it takes significant planning and teamwork to put them down. The Flash usually goes at this level.
b) Planet Busters: I know we end up with a lot of rhetoric about the term "Planet Busters" since so few characters have actually busted a planet, but...I consider this the level of Thor (normal levels) and Superman.
5. Solar System Level: These are characters that can wreck a solar system and many of them are in fact space based. Here's the level of Silver Surfer and some of the other Heralds of Galactus. Here's the primo Green Lanterns. In fact they might go on indefinitely destroying solar systems until they destroyed a whole galaxy, but would they be fast enough to accomplish it before they were stopped by some kind of massive team-up? I think Superboy Prime fits at this level.
6. Galaxy Level: One has to remember that our galaxy is 100,000 light years across and has billions and billions of stars. There is a huge jump between the Solar System and Galaxy Level. Someone like Galactus or Odin or whoever, if they've been shown to actually affect whole galaxies, should never have problems with anyone at any of the levels below them. Galactus also has an asterik here because he's known to serve an Abstract purpose in the Marvel Universe.
7. Abstract/Cosmic Level: These Beings represent or control some kind of fundamental force or aspect of existence. It is kind of silly that these beings would fight except in a highly metaphorical sense.
a) Universal Level: They have responsibility for or control of some power at the level of a universes creation, maintenance, or destruction. The Infinity Gauntlet raises its wearer to this level in the Marvel Universe. Dream of the Endless is the DC universes manifestation of something Multiversal: dreaming.
b) Multiversal Level: The same as Universal, but for more Universes. Cyttorak is at this level.
c) Omniversal: To be truly omniversal, what ever Being or Power must actually exist in some form in our world. Any character described as "omnipotent" would be just a different perspective on any other character described as "omnipotent". Fighting against or between such characters is totally pointless.
Thanks for the thread!
Classic Strange should be at the end of galaxy level or even the beginning of abstract/cosmic
Also, there's characters who can self-amp to really high levels, but that doesn't represent their usual showings. Storm, with years of prep and work, could probably change the climatic conditions of the whole planet bringing on an ice age and thereby destroying human civilization. However, that is so far out of her usual range of showings it would be ridiculous to put her at the Planetary Threat Level. Johnny Storm also can go nova and supposedly destroy the planet, but he usually just operates at the City Buster level or lower. A little line at the top of the list saying its based on consistent showings would help a lot.
Cheers!
@progenitor: Albert Wesker would be classified as enhanced due the fact that most street levers have replicated majority of his feats.
What street leveler has ever shown that type of speed? Or the kind of strength Wesker's shown? Punisher? Daredevil? Albert Wesker isn't street level, i'm telling you this because I know Albert Wesker, you're arguing because you think he's overrated, which of us do you think makes more sense?
Wesker should be on high, at least on the same tier as Spider-Man, look at the video above if you don't believe me, and trust me, I know Wesker.
@progenitor: Yeah Wesker will be somewhere in Spider-man's tier due to his super human speed and reflexes. I mean the guy punches holes through human beings.
Exactly.
@progenitor: We are editing a new one now, don't get your saturated panties in a bunch. =)
It is hard not to when doing the Wesker jiggy.
@wyldsong: Thank you! I thought I was going crazy when I read where Solar was at and the comments that he creates universes. I just finished re-reading the first 12 issues of Solar that contained Alpha and Omega, and I don't remember him doing anything like that at all. Lol. I do remember him almost being killed by an XO Manowar armor, which is not a bad feat, because Solar even says on panel he could have ended the fight instantly before he was nearly killed, but the fact that an XO armor could nearly killed him, even if it is Manowar class, shows that he should be quite a bit lower then multi-versal.
@tparks: The reality destruction feat was technically Solar creating a black hole, which destroyed the Earth, though what actually happened is in contention due to the wording, but it should be noted he did not do it on purpose. Recreating reality...he went back in time, found a planet similar to Earth, and did small changes here and there throughout its evolution, to basically recreate the Earth he destroyed, with a few small differences. He even states that he can't create something from nothing, and had to work with something that was already there. He should be somewhere around Silver Surfer level, if slightly above or just even with.
Now, if we talk the Dark House continuity...from what I understand, he became one with all of space time or something, but that is a different continuity than the main Valiant Solar. But beyond becoming one with all space time, I am not sure if he had any actually showings with that. Current Dynamite Solar, too early to tell=)
@colliderz: in reality made a tier list is too difficult but he can get more people than this
He should be somewhere around Silver Surfer level, if slightly above or just even with.
I'd put him at high end Surfer consistently, and probably even a little higher. The only problem I've ever had saying he's at Surfer level, is that Surfer has jobbed too much in the past, where Solar, who has done his fair share of jobbing too, has been written consistently at a high cosmic level even with his couple of screw ups. The screw ups were more just his personal mistakes, and not really his power level fluctuating.
He should be somewhere around Silver Surfer level, if slightly above or just even with.
I'd put him at high end Surfer consistently. The only problem I've ever had saying he's at Surfer level, is that Surfer has jobbed too much in the past, where Solar, who has done his fair share of jobbing too, has been written consistently at a high cosmic level even with his couple of screw ups. The screw ups were more just his personal mistakes, and not really his power level fluctuating.
Well...he has been shown having problems here and there with people far below his level. And really, if you think about it, we could construe that as being like a SS type complex, where he holds back quite a bit, but if you take his high end feats overall, he should be a bad arse above all bad arses (like Silver Surfer).
One of my favorite misconstrued feats is where people claim he beat a reality warper in her own dimension...which isn't true. A teleporter, not a reality warper, who had a dimension she teleported people through, brought some people there, and he simply removed them from that dimensional space. He never once beat a reality warper in their own dimension.
@wyldsong: Well said.
This is why I've always been hesitant to make Solar threads, even though he's one of my favorite characters. In every Solar thread, the comments are so inconsistent on his power levels. He definitely is among the elite for below sky-father, but I've seen threads of him facing Galactus, Odin, and Thanos w/ IG teaming up against him. It just gets a little ridiculous. I think someone must have made a misleading thread at one time, and comicvine just ran with it. I'd love to debate with him in some high end CaV's, but everyone considers him unstoppable, which really isn't the case at all, so I just avoid bringing him up that often. :/
@tparks: One of the main places that causes a ton of misinformation is a respect thread on the KMC forums, where there were a bunch of scans that were posted with misleading information...
You should be able to comfortably debate with Solar in the cosmic tier around Surfer level. @cosmicallyaware1 has been dying to use him, but he has run into the same problems you have. I for one would love to see a CaV with Solar in it.
@wyldsong: I don't really trust or use respect threads unless I know the person who made it, or I've read the source material myself and can see that it's legit.
I'd love to see @cosmicallyaware1 use him. He does some great stuff with characters like this.
I'll probably use him at some point in the next few months too. I've been putting together a lot of scans of the classic Valiant stuff from the 90s, and he's always been one of my favorites.
@tparks: I would volunteer for that CaV, but currently, I don't think I have a character that would be a good match 1 on 1. And the characters I know of that would be a good match, I definitely don't have the materials to get scans for. If you do ever end up using him though, let me know=)
@ssj_god: a complete list of all characters would be impossible in such a short time, but for DC:
http://www.comicvine.com/profile/van_cere/lists/dc-most-powerful-characters/50192/
yeah.. i know.. a complete list is nearly impossible anyway.. i was saying at least those characters should be present which gets used in vine so that new viners can be certain of their levels and doesn't make many mismatches...
and i saw that list of dc ... i'm not talking about a rank wise list like that one.. i'm talking about a tier wise character list like here in this OP.. so that which character belongs to which level gets clear.
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