United States Military vs Batman?

Let's say that the entire US military wanted to kill Batman and let's say Batman had no-morals and was willing to kill anyone that tried to stop him. Could Batman defeat the entire US military or is the US military simply too much for him?

Batman would conquer and become president batman

@russellmania77:

Seriously, give a proper answer.

He has enough leverage and money to break the system, if he wanted to he could just break all the prisons open in America and let it collapse on itself

or.... he can send out his pocket nukes and obliterate the army... than he will go to the us's enemies and attack the US and become prez, than he will kick out his allies because we dont need any russioans or pakistani terrorist in a country where batman is prez

These, or any of his other arbitrarily and massively destructive weapons. Full resources batman can deal with almost any scenario with Real life people.

@dratini1331 yeah batman is friggin awesome

Batman wins. He chills in watchtower and sends in his JLA robots or tells president to resign or he will nuke a state ( and he has that ability). Hell bruce wayne could assinate the president. The guy is a modern day ninja pretty much.

@westfriesianman terrible argument, anti batman plan is going to fail because batman will find out about it (they dont call him worlds greatest detective for nothing) than he will have an anti-antibatman plan

@westfriesianmanwell thats different, iron man doesnt care, hulk cant do anything about it but get mad and fight, thor worlds away so he wont know about it, and cap america is dumb as a rock in modern world, we are talking about the batman, who is completely paranoid...

Stewart and Atom is in military

bats is fcked

I think it could go either way, If the US army decided Batman was a threat and sent the entire force of the military to take him down it would be bye bye Bruce. But if batman realised what they were up to, or needed to take down the army for another reason, I'm pretty sure he could do it.

Batman

Captain America is just as or smarter than Batman in certain areas.

@nickzambuto well im talking about in modern world, he is from the 1940s so he has no idea what half of the weapons they have for him are capable of doing to him

He's had plenty of time to adjust to the modern world. In that department, he's pretty average.

@nickzambuto: Which areas?

In Caps current series he's been trapped in Dimension Z for over 10 years, fighting for his life everyday while raising a child. During that time he's been exposed to several different species and their cultures, along with new advanced weaponry that he has been seen using. He's managed to adapt and live there for TEN years. He's not as ignorant to anything out of the 1940s as you're making him out to be, but hey, you obviously don't know anything about him.

Edit: Also noting, Cap is better than Batman in the category of weapon use as far as I am aware. Batman is a better detective, Cap is a super-soldier, and they are both extremely intelligent.

Okay, see this is where Batman fanboys cross the line and become absurd.

This is just Batman. This is not him going to the JL Tower, so let's make that point moot. This is the ENTIRE MILITARY. This more than 2000, more than 5000 solilders from all the branches. This is tons of weaponry, jets, bombs, etc. Airforce, Navy, Army, Marines.

There's no way Batman is getting out of this. If they target Batman to the point of sending all the branches, Batman is realisticly done. Even if he takes down quite a few, he's not blasting through the entire military.

That's a point where Batman fanboyism is annoying, and then there's a point where Batman fanboyism is just absurd.

War strategics, fighting tactics, armed combat skill, leadership, adaption, off the top of my head. IMO Cap can beat Batman at chess just as many times as the inverse. Cap also thinks quicker and perceives faster than Batman.

@nickzambuto:

War strategics, fighting tactics, armed combat skill, leadership, adaption, off the top of my head. IMO Cap can beat Batman at chess just as many times as the inverse.

Unless im missing something here, (please tell me if i am) Cap is greatly inferior to Bruce in every single one of these categories. I can't recall reading a single Captain America arc where he shows intelligence anywhere near that of Bruce Wayne. Especially leadership and any sort of tactical thinking. Personally, i think that 616 Cap loses to Bruce in a game of chess 9/10 or 10/10 times.

Cap also thinks quicker and perceives faster than Batman.

That's highly debatable.

Huya Navy.

@i_like_swords in the movies, he all he knew was what a monkey was..

In the movie.

The operative phrase here being "in the movies". As in, as soon as he had returned from being frozen, not the comics version I just described to you.

Pro tip: Do more than watch the movies if you're going to debate about comic book characters.

If its real world military, Batman dies horribly.

If its comic book military he has a chance because the military in comics are a joke.

They can't find out their true names lol.

"Strategy" and "tactics" aren't interchangeable nouns like some people think. Here's the actual definitions of both:

Definition of STRATEGY

(1) : the science and art of employing the political, economic, psychological, and military forces of a nation or group of nations to afford the maximum support to adopted policies in peace or war (2) : the science and art of military command exercised to meet the enemy in combat under advantageous conditions

Definition of TACTICS

a : the science and art of disposing and maneuvering forces in combat

In laymen's terms, strategy is the skill to plan and mastermind a confrontation from behind the scenes, before the confrontation actually occurs. Or, as Comic Vine calls it, prep time.

Tactics, are a character's ability to form and execute a plan in the midst of combat.

Batman is a better strategist, but Captain America is a better tactician. This is often the most widely accepted view. Part of this is because of their characters; Steve Rogers is a military squad commander, and on the battlefield, the entire situation can change at any given moment, meaning your leader needs the ability to adapt and plan as he goes along.

@nickzambuto: I think that both are at least equally good tacticians. Batman is great at thinking on the fly.

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Batman is dealing with nearly 2 million active personnel here, not to mention countless of black ops and undercover agents who will constantly pop up in an attempt to kill Batman. Without proper prep, Batman have no chance here.

They don't know who is Batman and they don't have a chance to find out his secret identity. He got nukes in the batcave along with the dozens of armors which are nearly equal to Ironman. Also he got Insider suit, they can't hurt him in Insider lol. Army don't know about cave, one call to president to inform him that if he doesn't surrender he will nuke Washington and it's over.

lol. Real life military would absolutely stomp bats. Because the real life military isn't retarded. Even the demonstrated effectiveness of the average individual is better. Example: the usmc rifle range qualifies you at 200, 300 and 500 yard. Failing to qualify twice means you are no longer a Marine. Not hitting at any yard line automatically drops your score to marksman, the lowest grade.

Marines have demonstarted this acciracy in combat. There was a period during the Iraq war where Marines were being investigated for executing combatans because of the huge number of headshots. Subsequent investigations showed that these shots were however being taken in excess of 300 yards. The USMC is a force of 200000. Name one DC military unit with anything near those numbers. And that is just at the individual level.

In a very real sense, the modern U.S. military is superior in almost every way to any of it's fictional counterparts.

@norrinboltagonprime21: @mikesterman: @tjsh96: @paytience:

Batman Takes this with eazz

He could do it. He'd basically be a Lex luthor or a Doom kind of character.

The Air Force solos

Military stomps

Hal and John are part of the army/Air Force cap, and captain atom soooooo

Batsy would beat them all. Some hacking here and there, I don't see how real life us military is beating Batman. He can disappear without a trace. The us army ain't finding out where Batsy is.

It would still be a massive mismatch even if all the world's militaries fought Bats.

Batgod stomps

After five minutes of the attack going public, the presidents personal phone gets called. The attack is then called off.

Batman wins.

Batman Oneshots the entirety of North America with a kick.

@wewlad80 said:

Was laughing like the joker on this one

Batman solos their asses.

I don't see Batman pulling this off against a real life united states. Maybe a fictional, wholly incompetent military yes.

Batman Blitzes and oneshots mismatch