Uncle Iroh vs Heihachi Mishima

VS.

The fight takes place at the Northern Ar Temple, with Iroh having full access to his firebending (albeit at his normal power levels). Who wins?

BTW, both characters are bloodlusted- not necessary to mention this for Heihachi, because he's always bloodlusted, but it makes a big difference for Iroh. Is there still natural tea in the Tekkenverse, or did the environmental damage caused by Heihachi's Zaibatsu Corporation drive the plants to extinction? Because that could be a valid (and amusing) motive for Iroh to get bloodlusted about. "You destroyed all of the beautiful tea in this world! You MONSTER!"

Heihachi Mishima

Iroh stomps

@nighthunder: @terry2012: OK, we've got two opposing views here. Why do you think that Heihachi/Iroh will win this fight?

@sundeep: Iroh incinerates Heihachi in a firestorm?

Probably. But Heihachi's survived a lot in the past. If he manages to get close enough, evading the fire blasts and lightning (unlikely, but you never know- depends on how close they are to one another when the battle starts) to get within striking range, how would Iroh fare against Heihachi H2H?

Heihachi survived being thrown into a volcano, plus he's faster and stronger than Iroh. He stomps.

I thought that Heihachi was the one who threw Kazuya into the volcano, not the other way round.

@sundeep: They both did each other Kazuya in the first game, Heihachi in the second.

Nah, Heihachi and Kazuya both tossed each other down a ravine. Heihachi tossed Kazuya into the volcano as retribution, which Kazuya only survived thanks to the Devil Gene and being revived by G Corp- Heihachi never got tossed into the volcano himself. Heihachi did still get blown up in a fireball though, by self-destructing Jack-4's, and he survived to fight another day- but the blast was still enough to knock him unconscious and put him in a coma for months. In a fight, if Iroh can muster the same sort of explosive power from his firebending to attack Heihachi with, then that'd still count as a win for Iroh by knock-out.

Oh yep just watched Kazuyas ending for Tekken 1 my mistake, but yeah the Mishimas have insane durability for human characters.

Iroh doesn't have the necessary speed or Durability. Tekken characters are just a bad match up for Avatar Characters because Avatar Characters are notoriously frail when compared other fictional media with a lot of combat where as Tekken Characters have quite a lot of durability and similar if not superior damage out put. It's like if Cyclops decides to fight the base Hulk, Cyclops may be able to muster similar destructive output if he strains himself but What ever Cyclops hits with probably isn't gonna stop the Hulk and he'll have to keep doing it if he wants to have a snowballs chance. If Hulk hits Cyclops once though it's a done deal. Iroh could take maybe 2/10 but only if he wtf blitz's him with some serious explosions, not that I recall Iroh doing anything even remotely on the level of blowing up an entire building like the Jack 4's explosion did.

And Iroh did break out of prison single-handedly without the aid of his firebending or any weapons, bending the steel bars of his cell apart and leaving all of the prison's armed guards unconscious. That implies that he's not too shabby himself when it comes to his durability, stamina, strength, speed and general hand-to-hand fighting ability.

Correct me if I am wrong but that was during the day Sozin's Comet was passing, so by definition that isn't "Normal Power levels"

Iroh literally incinerates him

Fair enough. But still, he shouldn't be underestimated here. Sozin's Comet is estimated to increase firebending power output to roughly 100 times normal levels. The outer wall of Ba Sing Se is composed of solid rock, at the very least on a parity to reinforced concrete when it comes to compressive and tensile strength, and it also happens to be around the same height as the Hoover Dam- gauging its proportions, that would mean that it's also roughly the same average thickness as the Hoover Dam. Even taking the supercharging of Sozin's Comet into account, the destructive output of Iroh's technique at normal levels would still have roughly the same penetrative potential (indicating an even higher explosive output, given the inability to derive extra penetration and explosive power from warhead design) as a WW2 Tallboy bomb. And a Tallboy bomb would certainly be capable of blowing up an entire building- almost any building on Earth.

@nighthunder: If that doesn't incinerate Heihachi why would Iroh be able to?

Well.

No where is it stated it increases Firebenders by soemthing so quantifiable ass a flat times 100 bonus. You may be confusing the fact that Ozai said it gives firebenders the "Power of 100 Suns" which is hyperbole. We have no Idea how much it increased their powers so your calculations really don't matter. But we do know that not a single Firebender has any feats with the destructive output your claiming. Their go to was freaking Fire Catapults for Christ sake.

@cerberus369616: Fire Catapults were the standard go-to siege weapons- for regular field soldiers. But we already know that General Iroh managed to break through the outer wall of Ba Sing Se before, at his normal power levels, leading the direct assault in which his son died. That implies that he does possess that sort of destructive output.

@sundeep: We don't know that he personally broke the wall down which is what your claim needs to substantiate. We do know however, that he "Breached" the Outer wall only, it took him six hundred days of siege (more than 3 years), he lost a ridiculous amount of troops doing it and at the end of the day he ultimately failed to actually capture Ba Sing Se . So again, not even through statements does Iroh have the feats for that kind of destructive Output.

Going Heihachi

He is too damn durable for Iroh to put down

What everyone else said about Heihachi. Plus he headbutted a bullet.