Uncanny X-Force Vs. Agents of Atlas

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#2 Posted by mavfan626 (4001 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

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#3 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (10411 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

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#6 Posted by TheWitchingHour (1318 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

I think the Agents of Atlas take this fight. I don't see X-Force having an answer for M-11 or for Venus. And I believe Grayson is a more powerful psychic than Psylocke.

#7 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (10411 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio
@TheWitchingHour: Do they have an answer to Fantomex's misdirection? I don't really know anything about the Agents of Atlas, but Psylocke is an omega level telepath now.
#8 Posted by TheWitchingHour (1318 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@GrandSymbiote94:

Well my initial thought was that Venus' siren song would pretty much trump Fantomex's misdirection given that she is now the goddess of love and was even capable of enthralling the Sentry before she became the goddess (when Sorcerer Supreme Doctor Strange was unable to do so). But my backup would be M-11 who is a semi-sentient robot and has proven immune to things similar to misdirection before. Also he semi indestructible and is likely to absorb much of the damage that X-force can put out (along with Namora).

I didn't know Psylocke was omega level. I'll have to find some feats for Robert.

#9 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (10411 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio
@TheWitchingHour: Is Venus singing a form of telepathy? Because I remember that Fantomex's misdirection is a small form IIRC (stated by Dark Beast) So M-11 might still be affected though. (Doubt it myself actually.) Also what type of metal is he made out of because Wolvie's adamantium claws would cut through him. But again I really don't know anything about the Agents of Atlas so I don't know all their powers and equipment.
#10 Posted by TheWitchingHour (1318 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@GrandSymbiote94: No Venus singing is not a form of telepathy. She's more of a magical empath I guess. Even though Fantomex's powers seem to work on very high level telepaths (Jean Grey, Professor X) I don't think that would apply to Venus.

I'm not sure what M-11 is made out of. I know he's pretty darn durable but I'd assume Wolverine would be able to cut through him. The catch though is M-11 has what's called a restoration enchantment given to him by Mr. Lao. He's essentially self repairing.

Also Robert Grayson's standard equipment includes his Venetian Eternals spaceship which grants him his powers. The ship has some serious firepower to it as well.

#11 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (10411 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio
@TheWitchingHour: So it all depends on pretty much who's powers work first Fantomex or Venus?  
 
Is there anyway to shut him down? Or incapacitate him? 
 
Fantomex has EVA who also has misdirection and firepower. So are we using ships here? 
 
Also is Venus immune to telepathy? Because Psylocke could mind rape her. (Depending on Grayson's telepathy I mean.)
#12 Posted by TheWitchingHour (1318 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@GrandSymbiote94:

Oh that's right I forgot about E.V.A. Since it's Fantomex's back up nervous system I think it's fair to say E.V.A. is in the fight too. In fact E.V.A. and Grayson's ship are pretty analogous to one another.

I'm not sure if Venus is immune to telepathy. But I know that Grayson is at least strong enough to stall Psylocke from telepathically attacking anyone long enough for Venus to do her thing (I also believe he is stronger than Psylocke but I can't prove it right now). Once Venus starts singing the entire playing field is incapacitated (except for M-11 who is free to take down X-Force while they're in Venus' thrall)

I think Fantomex might be quicker on the draw than Venus though. But Grayson is quite the illusionist himself and is undoubtedly just as fast as Fantomex when it comes to illusion casting. But even if Fantomex's illusions trick every organic Agent of Atlas he still has to deal with M-11 and Grayson's ship who are immune to the effects.

M-11 can't be shut down. He can be temporarily incapacitated but that wouldn't last longer than the duration of the fight given X-Forces roster.

#13 Posted by ThexX (1288 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@TheWitchingHour: Fantomex Misdirection does works on machines, Cyborg, & Robots

#14 Posted by matchesmalone21 (4743 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@TheWitchingHour said:

I think the Agents of Atlas take this fight. I don't see X-Force having an answer for M-11 or for Venus. And I believe Grayson is a more powerful psychic than Psylocke.

#15 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 11 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio
@ThexX said:

@TheWitchingHour: Fantomex Misdirection does works on machines, Cyborg, & Robots

Sometimes it does, other times it doesn't. It worked on the Celestial ship during Apocalypse Solution, it failed against Deathloks in Deathlok Nation.
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#16 Edited by mavfan626 (4001 posts) - 11 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

@ThexX said:

@TheWitchingHour: Fantomex Misdirection does works on machines, Cyborg, & Robots

Sometimes it does, other times it doesn't. It worked on the Celestial ship during Apocalypse Solution, it failed against Deathloks in Deathlok Nation.

The Celestial ship had the same type of A.I as Fantomex's ship, they stat it just after it happens..

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#17 Posted by TheWitchingHour (1318 posts) - 11 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

@mavfan626 said:

@Morpheus_ said:

@ThexX said:

@TheWitchingHour: Fantomex Misdirection does works on machines, Cyborg, & Robots

Sometimes it does, other times it doesn't. It worked on the Celestial ship during Apocalypse Solution, it failed against Deathloks in Deathlok Nation.

The Celestial ship had the same type of A.I as Fantomex's ship, they stat it just after it happens..

If that's true then that would imply both that the Celestial ship and E.V.A. would have some organic component to them right? I mean E.V.A. is technically a back up nervous system. If the A.I. is similar then I'd assume the mechanics are as well. This would also explain why Deathloks are immune to misdirection. They use dead organic matter to complete their cybernetics as opposed to live tissue. Or in the case of the Deathlok on X-force the computer overrides the human mind. M-11 has no organic components and I believe the same goes for Grayson's ship.

#18 Posted by czarny_samael666 (13851 posts) - 11 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

AoA due to Venus.

#19 Posted by troller (912 posts) - 11 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

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