They fight in space both are blood lusted who takes it?
They fight in space both are blood lusted who takes it?
What are fully-fed Galactus's feats?
Also, Spectre wins.
Unbound Spectre is God. /thread
@ImTheDamnBatman said:
Unbound Spectre is God. /thread
Unbound Spectre is defeated by Michael. Spectre is more at Phoenix force level IMO, not (the) God level. Spectre has some defeats against the likes of Parallax, AM, Nekron.
Spectre beats Galactus, but there is ample room for PIS, like if Galactus doesn't have a soul maybe Spectre could not impact him.
@ImTheDamnBatman said:
Unbound Spectre is God. /thread
this.
@catofellow: Spectre never lost to Parallax. Parallax expended all of his powers to BFR Spectre which did absolutely no damage at all.
Unless Galactus knows the batkick!
jk I couldnt help it.
@WillPayton said:
What are fully-fed Galactus's feats?
Also, Spectre wins.
I asked this question before myself. As far as I am aware there is only 2 different versions of Galactus normal and dying.
@_Black said:
@catofellow: When did Spectre lose to Nekron? Please don't say "Blackest Night". Lol
Yes, clarify your skepticism.
@Immortal777 said:
@catofellow: Spectre never lost to Parallax. Parallax expended all of his powers to BFR Spectre which did absolutely no damage at all.
OK, but that is not something that should happen to a character which many say is the most powerful in DCU.
@catofellow: The Spectre is normally held back by the host or by his inability to interfere in whatever he chooses since he is the wrath of God free reign on his part would take away from free will which is why he normally answer to a host. Unleashed and allowed to kill Galactus there is nothing that can stop him bar God himself.
@_Black said:
@catofellow said:
@_Black said:
@catofellow: When did Spectre lose to Nekron? Please don't say "Blackest Night". Lol
Yes, clarify your skepticism.
Plot device, to be short.
Limitations put on the character, i.e. the Spectre can be bound to his host in some circumstances against his will, other forces can exert greater influence over the host than Spectre, and Spectre cannot pass judgement on beings without a soul under some circumstances.
@Dextersinister said:
@catofellow: The Spectre is normally held back by the host or by his inability to interfere in whatever he chooses since he is the wrath of God free reign on his part would take away from free will which is why he normally answer to a host. Unleashed and allowed to kill Galactus there is nothing that can stop him bar God himself.
.... or Michael, or other cosmic entities under the right scenario. Anyway, I did say Spectre beats Galactus unless there is PIS. I just think that Sprectre is not God level but Phoenix force level. All the talk of Spectre de factor #2 DCU seem to come from JLA/Avengers where Spectre interacts with LT, who is marvel #2.
Galan dies and the universe is turned into pancakes!

@SpideyPresence said:
Galan dies and the universe is turned into pancakes!
Oh, damn you! That just made me want pancakes so badly.
@catofellow: I don't know why your saying Spectre is on Phoenix lvl when he actual has feats that put him above Phoenix.
Such as what.
In my opinion they are equivalent. DC cosmic entities seems to have more biblical origins. Debates around Spectre relate to supposed backing of the Presence or God, though this has not been confirmed.
@catofellow: Besides Spectre actual having feats and not being word of mouth like Phoenix.
@catofellow: Officially an unbound Spectre is the strongest character that has ever been shown in the DC universe much like how Reed/Lex is officially the smartest man on Earth. They don't often give characters ranks so that they can scale them up or down depending on the story but when they do it trumps everything else until they retcon it or introduce someone better.
It's why you will rarely see an unbound Spectre getting involved with the big bads.
The amount of nonsense circulating here......the unbound Spectre is not peak level or anything even remotely near it. It's his weakest form.
@WillPayton said:
What are fully-fed Galactus's feats?
Also, Spectre wins.
haha Will you rock
@XImpossibruX said:
@ImTheDamnBatman said:
Unbound Spectre is God. /threadthis.
Unbound Spectre wins but he's not God.
@Dernman: I've said this a few times, I'm not sure where this fully fed myth comes from.
@eisjfiejss said:
@XImpossibruX said:
@ImTheDamnBatman said:
Unbound Spectre is God. /threadthis.
Unbound Spectre wins but he's not God.
If you're going to make a smurf account at least pick an understandable name for the smurf...
@XImpossibruX said:
@eisjfiejss said:
@XImpossibruX said:
@ImTheDamnBatman said:
Unbound Spectre is God. /threadthis.
Unbound Spectre wins but he's not God.
If you're going to make a smurf account at least pick an understandable name for the smurf...
First off, this is not a smurf account. Second, If you're going to reply like this, you might as well not reply at all.
i thought unbound was a pretty high end power spectre??? i was going to say him,anyone on the power rate versions of spectre??
@Dextersinister said:
@catofellow: Officially an unbound Spectre is the strongest character that has ever been shown in the DC universe much like how Reed/Lex is officially the smartest man on Earth. They don't often give characters ranks so that they can scale them up or down depending on the story but when they do it trumps everything else until they retcon it or introduce someone better.
The Hell?
Spectre should be able to take Galactus down
@CitizenBane said:
The amount of nonsense circulating here......the unbound Spectre is not peak level or anything even remotely near it. It's his weakest form.
Can you explain why? Are you saying this only because the unbound Spectre has the lowest feats? Or is there some theory that just implies your reasoning is true? I am fairly knowledgeable on the Spectre but I don't understand why an unbound version is his weakest.
Spectre at his weakest is still out of Galactus league.
@eisjfiejss said:
@CitizenBane said:
The amount of nonsense circulating here......the unbound Spectre is not peak level or anything even remotely near it. It's his weakest form.
Can you explain why? Are you saying this only because the unbound Spectre has the lowest feats? Or is there some theory that just implies your reasoning is true? I am fairly knowledgeable on the Spectre but I don't understand why an unbound version is his weakest.
No, because that is the way it is. It was explained at the beginning of the Spectre's third volume. Originally he was just a spirit of pure rage, and destroyed indiscriminately. He would have destroyed everything in sight but Michael intervened and imposed the requirement of a human host on him, to temper his rage and exercise his full power with proper discretion. In DOV, the Spectre was said to be weakened and disoriented because it was the first time he'd been without a host in years.
@Immortal777 said:
Spectre at his weakest is still out of Galactus league.
This isn't true at all. Galactus would manhandle Black Lantern Spectre; the Spectre these days has a lot poor showings that say otherwise anyhow.
@isaac_clarke: Galactus can't KO,incapacitate or kill no version of the Spectre. Galactus could do literally no lasting damage to any version of Spectre but on the other hand Spectre can easily do everything I mention to Galactus no matter what lvl Galactus is and thats why Spectre is out of his league no matter the versions being used.
@WillPayton said:
@SpideyPresence said:
Galan dies and the universe is turned into pancakes!
Oh, damn you! That just made me want pancakes so badly.
Ugh, they look so moist and delicious.
@_Black said:
@catofellow said:
@_Black said:
@catofellow: When did Spectre lose to Nekron? Please don't say "Blackest Night". Lol
Yes, clarify your skepticism.
Plot device, to be short.
why plot device? Nekron didnt have a soul so Spectre couldnt affect him, its not like Nekron KOed Spectre or anything. Spectre has lost to anti-monitor, Mandrax, Michael (but well that was kind of obvious , Spectre was kind of out of his league there anyways).
Also quite the contrary, unbound spectre is more vulnerable than when he is bound. Just look at his histroy, most of his high end feats came from when he was bound. The when he was unbound got seduced by Eclipso.
@catofellow said:
Such as what.
In my opinion they are equivalent. DC cosmic entities seems to have more biblical origins. Debates around Spectre relate to supposed backing of the Presence or God, though this has not been confirmed.
Phoenix is not on the same level as spectre it has been defeated far too many time. Shi'ar cannon has hurt and almost killed it, AvX Iron Man split it into 5 groups with a giant anti-phoenix gun etc. I could have easily quoted Tom Brevroot saying Phoenix < Odin :p
@catofellow said:
@ImTheDamnBatman said:
Unbound Spectre is God. /threadUnbound Spectre is defeated by Michael. Spectre is more at Phoenix force level IMO, not (the) God level. Spectre has some defeats against the likes of Parallax, AM, Nekron.
Spectre beats Galactus, but there is ample room for PIS, like if Galactus doesn't have a soul maybe Spectre could not impact him.
Hooray for speculation! I don't believe we've ever seen unbound Spectre or Galactus at 100%.
@0n1zuka said:
@Killemall: Wasn't Spectre unbound when he was defeated by Michael? (Not saying that it would change the outcome in any way, just want to know if this is correct.)
He was unbound in both his fights against Michael. Wouldn't have changed the outcome.
@BigCimmerian said:
@catofellow said:
@ImTheDamnBatman said:
Unbound Spectre is God. /threadUnbound Spectre is defeated by Michael. Spectre is more at Phoenix force level IMO, not (the) God level. Spectre has some defeats against the likes of Parallax, AM, Nekron.
Spectre beats Galactus, but there is ample room for PIS, like if Galactus doesn't have a soul maybe Spectre could not impact him.
Spectre was defeated by Parallax, Nekron, Anti Monitor, Eclipso, Michael Demorgius, is there any entity in DC universe that Spectre can beat?
He's also defeated Parallax once, he was BFR'd by Nekron, not defeated, he was not defeated by Anti-Monitor, he was KO'd by all the energy from the beginning of the multiverse till the present day hitting him (prior to that he was actually overpowering the AM), he's defeated Eclipso many times (even one-shotted him on occasion), and Michael was always out of his league.
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