Ultron vs Kakashi Sauske Madara and Itachi

All characters are healthy and alive. This is 616 ultron in his later incarnation. (Yes he has phalanx) This is sauske kakashi end of series feats. Fight takes place in NYC. No prep. Who wins?

Only argument here is Gundodama . and maybe Totsuka.

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Is Genjutsu going to affect Ultron? He prolly gets sealed by the Totsuka blade unless he's capable of some crazy high end feat I'm not aware of.

Kamui shuriken.

Totsuka blade need to pierce, which I don't see happening, but Kamui is a possible option

Phalanx Ultron wrecks bad.

Kakashi if he is dms could solo, otherwise their only chance is to distract ultron and get a kamui snipe

Ultron

@juiceboks: Wouldn't damage Ultron. And I'm pretty sure he can teleport between dimensions, so it's pretty much spite in his favor.

Sasuke puts some pebbles into his hard drive if they are just fighting the main body.

Ultron

Ultron can't be phased through so I don't think kamui would work.

@highaccuser: I don't see why not. Ultron isn't immune to getting teleported, and just because he can teleport with his body intact doesn't mean he can do it in pieces.

@juiceboks: That's not what Kamui shuriken does unless I'm misremembering something. Kakashi can't teleport Ultron into pieces.

Ultron has fought Vision who can do the samething and more, and it won't work, especially since sasuke can't spam it,

@highaccuser: That's exactly what they do. Kakashi used them to port away sections of the tailed beast culmination Kaguya transformed into.

Unless Ultron has resistance against being ported against his will (which as far as I've read he doesn't) he falls to this technique.

@juiceboks: I'm probably just remembering things wrong. I usually do that. Regardless I don't think we can really say for sure that he can do that to something despite any level of durability. Seems like a no limits fallacy…

Sasuke and Kakashi have the required hax to take him down.

Eh..I wouldn't really call it that. It's not like high tiers haven't shown resistance to being ported before(Strange, Fate, Lanterns, Thanos, Hulk even IIRC). A characters durability shouldn't really come to play, as Kakashi's manner of kamui is essentially like a morals off Blink or Nightcrawler who have ported beings regardless of how durable they are.

winner is ultron

@juiceboks: Ultron can't be dismembered. Adamantium is indestructible. Kamui shouldn't work because phasing and teleporting don't work on Ultron.

Two things:

• Adamantium, regardless of whatever version of it - can and has been warped and destroyed.
• Kamui should have zero issues BFRing Ultron into an entirely different dimension.

Kakashi is MVP.

How would he know where the hard drive is?

Phalax Ultron stomps hard. He's cosmic level. Already above anything the team can pack.

@isaac_clarke: pure adamantium has only been destroyed by cosmic-tier characters. And I don't remember adamantium partially being warped, scans for this.

Gambit can blow up primary adamantium; Thor can dent it. There is absolutely no magic reason why a character that can transport on eye-contact physical objects (entirely or partially at personal discretion) cannot repeat the same to adamantium. It's not Thor it doesn't physically transcend reality (Astonishing Thor).

Kakashi can teleport mountain sized objects with his eyes:

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And stuff smaller than an arm. So what's Ultron's magic reason for immunity?

And I don't remember adamantium partially being warped, scans for this.

Magneto has liquefied it in Logan's bones:

Logan's referenced how reality warpers can live up their name:

@isaac_clarke: show me an example of 616 adamantium being dismembered after they retconned the hulk breaking it. Also Ultron can teleport through dimensions. Like I've said before the vision tried phasing through him to take him apart and he couldn't. I don't see kamui working.

@isaac_clarke: wolverine doesn't have pure adimatium like ultron or caps shield they're different so you can't use wolverine as an example

With the phalanx (which under Ultron became airborne) Ultron stomps.

I hope people know that Phalanx Ultron doesn't have adamantium. But regardless of that fact he would still win.

@isaac_clarke: that magneto one was before the retcon. And idk if the other one is canon either

Kakashi solos with Kamui.