Ultron vs Faora

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Movie versions. Bloodlusted.

Who wins?

This won't end well.

What form is Ultron in?

if ultron is in vibranium form, he wins, any other from loses to foara

Faora never developed HV so I'll say stalemate. Don't see how ultron touches her though.

Stalemate.

Ultron

Stalemate

Faora bitch slaps Ultron... she wrecks

How?

@never_give_up: Faora can´t damage him and he´s strong enough to hurt her.

His final most powerful form in the movie.

If it's Vibranium Ultron, he can win purely due to his durability. Otherwise, nothing in his arsenal suggests he's powerful enough to defeat Faora. MoS Kryptonians, despite all the force they put out, showed no signs of lasting damage.

Really, the only chance Ultron has of winning is destroying her equipment so can't deal with the environment, and if that's the case, he wins handily. Otherwise, it's Faora for the majority.

But not fast enough to hit her.

@never_give_up: He´ll hit her eventually, he was able to tag and hit Vision who seemed pretty fast.

@never_give_up: What is strange is that Faora had enough time to evade the missile from striking her, yet she didn't. Granted, she was disoriented, but if she knew what was coming for her, she could have moved. With that, once she realizes she's doing nothing to Ultron, Ultron will have the upper-hand and put her down. Either by evolving further (as if he needs to), or by accessing heavy-duty missile action.

Vision isn't on Faora's lvl of speed.

Do you know what disoriented means?

Ultron gets wrecked, even in his most powerful form he still wasn't as durable as he should've been.

She's way to fast for him to tag anyway.

@never_give_up: No, but he´s not that far.

Where was it said in the movie that he had a Vibranium form?

Then Ultron wins. She can't hurt him but he can certainly hurt her. She's fast but he'll tag her eventually plus Ultron has anti-grav tech from the Chitauri.

@never_give_up:

Ultron has anti-grav tech he can use to counter her speed.

I haven't a clue why people are claiming Faora is untouchable due to her speed when EVERYONE in MOS could hit her. She didn't dodge anything outside Clark's slow as heck punches.

If I recall, it was mentioned by Tony just before he called him puffy.

Faora is hella fast and strong, but her suit has one weakness: the helmet field can break with enough heat/pressure. she will be weakened by the atmosphere once Ultron targets that. long enough for him to squish her head i think. (is he strong enough to do that to a kryptonian? ...i believe so) i don't see her being able to destroy his body enough to stop him from killing her at that point, especially when he's got that final armor upgrade.

this will be a fantastic fight. as much as i love her, idk if Faora can win this one for a majority. Ultron 6+/10

Faora, pretty handily, despite the vibranium, Ultron wasn't indestructible, Hulk and SW proved that. And he doesnt have the speed or firepower to counter her speed.

-But I am sure they can have a nice chat about evolution while slugging it out.

I'll go for draw two none of the avengers where on her level physically yet they still man handled ultron.

@isaac_clarke: The fight Superman had with her in the cafe.

I must have missed that. I thought Ultron used all the Vibranium to levitate the city. Also, if he was made of Vibranium then why was he destroyed by his fight with the Avengers, ending with Hulk? He seemed durable, but not even close to indestructible like Caps shield.

Possible stale mate.

@never_give_up: I'm going to be the guy that says, "disorientation doesn't mean you can't move." I'm sure the meaning helped you more than me.

Stalemate. Can't really hurt each other. Ultron will have trouble hitting her. She can't really damage him. The only thing Ultron could do is damage her mask and give her a sensory overload. But I don't see that happening.

i dont understand why people are saying that Faora cant hurt Ultron. He got pretty thoroughly hurt in the movie. He's certainly not even close to indestructible.

@willpayton: i dont think it was directly stated, but

he had vibranium

and in his final form he took a lot of attacks that beforehand hurt him alot

i dont think foara has the power of a mind gem, the only reason ultron's shell even cracked.

he only died because through those small cracks, scarlet witch pulled out his heart

@monte-cristo: ask thor what he thought of final form utron

@outside_85 hulk didnt physically hurt him at all

@willpayton: he was only damaged after the infinity stone, what hulk nd scarlet witch did after doesn't matter, if a rock has a big crack in it already i can break it in half if its solid i can't, the only reason sw and hulk could hurt him later is because he took a combined assult from an infinity stone,ironman and thor

Thor who has better striking feats than all the kyrtonians and highwr durabilty was been treated like a child by ultron and ultron no selled his hits too

MoS kyrtonians weren't fast at fighting they were fast at rushing thats it, if ultron could tag quicksilver he can tag any of them

@never_give_up: while in combat, she not too fast to where ultron cant touch her

brute force: thor > foara

and ultron grabbed him and didnt even allow him to move again

so once ultron grabs her, its a big beating coming right up

He didn't have a full vibranium form, it was said to be laced with vibranium.

Yea, no. Not a good argument.

There's a heavy risk of MCU fans going crazy by saying that. So I'll just say stalemate.

We're talking about speed. Watch the first 50 seconds.

Vision showed no impressive speed feats to put him remotely close to the DCCU's only current speedster. Hell, Vision and Ultron have worse speed feats than Iron Man...

Faora rag dolls Ultron until the end of time.

Maybe it puts him down, maybe it doesn't. But he's never getting a hit in.

I mean, Ultron can also fly... but I'm not really sure how that helps him take Faora down other than allowing him to run away more effectively.

This

There is no evidence, even visual, that Vision's Mind Gem repulsor is anything other than a standard repulsor in combat.

Ultron V2 was never hit by Thor using Mjolnir. Thor and Ultron's fight was literally just Ultron surprising him, punching him 4 times, and then grabbing him by the neck. Thor was talking fine through the grab and wasn't pulling at Ultron's arm, he was hold him in place for Vision to hit Ultron.

Ultron V2 never tags Quicksilver beyond shooting at Hawkeye with a minigun...

Quicksilver isn't even necessarily faster than Faora. None of his feats were really out of her purview of speed. He was a bit more precise, but also lacked long jumping capability and hand to hand skill.

Same way I saw it. Don't know if she could put him down. But he isn't touching her lol.

Yeah this is basically what i was thinking. Also:

1. Ultron never actually had a Vibranium form in the movie. He used the Vibranium to levitate the city.

2. Multiple people like Scarlet Witch and Hulk were able to damage his form

3. Even though Vision used the gem against him, there's no telling how much power was actually coming out of it. So, we cant really use that as a quantifiable feat.

Not saying who wins or loses, just wanted to point out a couple of points.

@willpayton: re watch the movie, stark says in final fight scene something along the lines "bulkier than usual it's the vibranium getting to you" I don't get why your saying he doesn't have a virbainium form, spread ifs disinformation is not good

Oh I didnt remember that line of dialog. I remember something about "bulkier than usual" but not the rest.

What does "bulkier than usual it's the vibranium getting to you" even mean?

In any case, if he had Vibranium it couldnt have been his entire body because multiple people where able to damage him and tear up his armor. So, we cant just say "he was made of Vibranium so he cant be hurt"... which is obviously not true.

Probably Faora IMO she is too fast for Ultron and Hulk literally ragdolled him everytime, Faora can hammer him with hits until he sustains damage etc..

Stalemate only because they can't really help each other