i really dont know who would win but i think the Cyborg Superman can take Ultrons body over. Who, How, and Why.
Ultron VS Cyborg Superman
"Ultron turns into Cyborg superman's b!tch even though ultron looks a trillion times cooler.
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Cyborg Superman would stand a chance.
@cosmicallyaware1 said:
Ultron Phalanx can infect Henshaw and convert him correct?
By that same logic, wouldn't Henshaw be able to control Ultron.
That probably won't be a factor in this fight.
@blackadamFTW: correct, good point. well then, i guess other abilities aside, Henshaw has way more versatility and edge in raw power. Cyborg wins.
@Floopay said:
There's not much Cyborg Supes can really do to him, and there isn't much Ultron can really do to Cyborg Supes.
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Stalemate.
@king_saturn: Ultron's indestructible, i doubt there's nothing Cyborg Superman can do too.
Ultron.
Reasons?
@dondave: Ability to tank everything CS can throw at him and counter with telepathy and technopathy for a victory.
add to that time travel and teleportation opens Avenue for Bfr.
I don't see how Telepathy would have any effect - Henshaw doesn't have a brain.
As for Technopathy - that honestly seems like a stalemate, both can do it to pretty much the same degree.
@thetruebarryallen: I was told he has actually succumbed to telepath before against Tribunal Prime.
I don't exactly agree on the technopathy part because Ultron has both resisted technopathy and taken over a planet full of hyper powerful technopathy (a group powerful enough to enslave entire Kree galaxy with texhnopathy in matter of hours including not just every piece of technology but every single living being just as well )
Does CS have good enough defense against that ?
Add to that time travel and teleportation for Bfr.
@thetruebarryallen: I was told he has actually succumbed to telepath before against Tribunal Prime.
I don't exactly agree on the technopathy part because Ultron has both resisted technopathy and taken over a planet full of hyper powerful technopathy (a group powerful enough to enslave entire Kree galaxy with texhnopathy in matter of hours including not just every piece of technology but every single living being just as well )
Does CS have good enough defense against that ?
Add to that time travel and teleportation for Bfr.
I mean - CS is just a consciousness, he inhabits the machine as a body but he's theoretically formless.
I don't recall Technopathy ever being used on CS - but he too has planetary level technopathy & has designed bodies to fight Superman in a mere matter of seconds that were made out of children's toys.
I mean - I guess there's Time Travel for the BFR but Ultron knows nothing about Henshaw as they've never encountered each other, I don't see him being able to figure all this out in the midst of a fight & then him going back in time to kill Henshaw before he was born or any of that mumbo jumbo, unless Ultron does that on a regular basis?
CS can't teleport naturally - but he can easily design something that allows him to, so he could quickly return to the battlefield to resume the match, unless it's a "ring out" sort of deal.
EDIT** - I just realize Henshaw has his rings as well - so he use those to open up wormholes & whatnot for transportation like any other Yellow Lantern could.
@thetruebarryallen: I think you misunderstand the first part. Ultron did not just take over a planet full of technology but rather a planet full of technopaths who themselves were powerful enough to enslave a galaxy wide one of the most advance civilization on marvel universe including every living beings just as well.
The way I see it Phalanx themselves were just as good if not better technopaths than Hank. If Ultra could take over them why not Hank ?
The time travel ability wasn't to suggest he would go back in time and kill CS , something that doesn't even work in marvel, but rather simply teleport Cs to say 100 years in the future. It's an effective Bfr.
@killemall: If Ultron could use telepathy,then wouldn't that make Ultron susceptible to telepathy as well?
@killemall: Impressive for Ultron - but Hank isn't a machine.
There isn't anything for Ultron to take over - he can take Hanks current body over perhaps but Hank isn't stuck in it - he can jump from machine to machine.
As for that means of BFR - perhaps, but Henshaw has a way to come back from it - he's built devices as complicated as a time machine before.
I see this mainly as a Stalemate, unless Ultron can switch bodies too.
@thetruebarryallen: Phalanx aren't machine either. Paraxgora wasn't a machine either. The are both pretty powerful technopaths as well. Ultron had no problem taking them over.
He would need to built a time machine to come back and also know what time period he has been BFR too. I don't find it very feasible but who knows.
@reaverlation: his telepathy is based on light beam manipulation rather than his brain. I suppose it's more like Hypnosis.
@killemall: Like I said though - Henshaw ISN'T a machine, he's a conscousness that can move from machine to machine and uses machines to interact with the world as "physical bodies" but he himself is completely formless. Ultron can't take over his consciousness.
As for the BFR, there isn't really a time limit, is there - like, it might take Henshaw a while to locate a calendar but he could return to the time period right when the fight was about to begin.
I think they're just gonna end up stalemating, unless Ultron can be put down - and I'm not too knowledgeable on Ultrons durability, I know he has Adamantium covering's but that's where my knowledge stops.
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