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#1 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

i really dont know who would win but i think the Cyborg Superman can take Ultrons body over. Who, How, and Why.

#2 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyborg Superman.

#3 Posted by King Saturn (225174 posts) - - Show Bio
Cyborg Superman would win here. There isnt much Ultron can do against Hank here
#4 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio

What happened to acewasp23 I have not seen him on the vine for a long time.

#5 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultron turns into Cyborg superman's b!tch even though ultron looks a trillion times cooler. 

#6 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio
Dreadnaught said:
"Ultron turns into Cyborg superman's b!tch even though ultron looks a trillion times cooler. 
"

Cyborg Superman would stand a chance.
#7 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio
LoL and to thnk i was about to remake this thread.

brainiac 1.0
said:
"What happened to acewasp23 I have not seen him on the vine for a long time."

LoL he's here still.
#8 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

KK i thnk i made this battle back when i first joined.
so to give a little info for it. its the current Incarnation of Ultron and the phalanx, Vs Cyborg Superman and his Manhunters.
Cyborg has his 8 yellow Rings. the fight takes place on the Moon.



VS

 



#9 Edited by King Saturn (225174 posts) - - Show Bio
Hank will bust Ultron up
#10 Posted by cliffrice (1015 posts) - - Show Bio

Their powers are pretty much on par with one another.

Both can control other machines

Both cannot be killed because when their body is destroyed they just become free floating data/conciousness.

Both can incorporate tech into themselves. I really can see this going either way.

#11 Posted by HolySerpent (12822 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't know to much about ultron to comment

#12 Posted by Billy Batson (58360 posts) - - Show Bio

@HolySerpent said:

Don't know to much about ultron to comment

Then don't.
BB

#13 Posted by HolySerpent (12822 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyborg win...now your move

#14 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@King Saturn said:

Hank will bust Ultron up
#15 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5690 posts) - - Show Bio

How would Hank bust up Ultron

#16 Posted by cosmicallyaware1 (4833 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultron Phalanx can infect Henshaw and convert him correct?

#17 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@cosmicallyaware1 said:

Ultron Phalanx can infect Henshaw and convert him correct?

By that same logic, wouldn't Henshaw be able to control Ultron.

That probably won't be a factor in this fight.

#18 Posted by Saren (25125 posts) - - Show Bio

@cosmicallyaware1 said:

Ultron Phalanx can infect Henshaw and convert him correct?

What's to convert? He's not a machine, he's a consciousness that bonds to technology.

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#19 Posted by cosmicallyaware1 (4833 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW: correct, good point. well then, i guess other abilities aside, Henshaw has way more versatility and edge in raw power. Cyborg wins.

#20 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

Henshaw takes down Ultron I believe

#21 Posted by Needlebay (1967 posts) - - Show Bio

Hank.

#22 Posted by XiiX (9474 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyborg-Superman

#23 Posted by ToO_RaW (1116 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say stalemate.

#24 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5330 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate an then they become 1 being Cyborgtron.

#25 Posted by dondave (38904 posts) - - Show Bio

Cybrog Super-man ftw

#26 Posted by JackKnight (2969 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyborg Superman makes Ultron his maid.

#27 Posted by Saren (25125 posts) - - Show Bio
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#28 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

There's not much Cyborg Supes can really do to him, and there isn't much Ultron can really do to Cyborg Supes.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#29 Posted by TDK_1997 (15102 posts) - - Show Bio

Henshaw.

#30 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12403 posts) - - Show Bio

Henshaw Bilitzes

#31 Posted by logy5000 (6167 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyborg Superman's got this.

#32 Posted by staphin (206 posts) - - Show Bio

hank wins

#33 Posted by spiderbuck (2452 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

There's not much Cyborg Supes can really do to him, and there isn't much Ultron can really do to Cyborg Supes.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Stalemate.

#34 Posted by sheryinistoosexy (722 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn: Ultron's indestructible, i doubt there's nothing Cyborg Superman can do too.

#35 Edited by reaverlation (17109 posts) - - Show Bio

Henshaw

#36 Posted by dondave (38904 posts) - - Show Bio

Hank

#37 Edited by BRAX (798 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyborg Superman wins..

#38 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultron.

#39 Posted by dondave (38904 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Edited by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Ability to tank everything CS can throw at him and counter with telepathy and technopathy for a victory.

add to that time travel and teleportation opens Avenue for Bfr.

#41 Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen (6360 posts) - - Show Bio

They take over the world together.

#42 Edited by TheTrueBarryAllen (6360 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Ability to tank everything CS can throw at him and counter with telepathy and technopathy for a victory.

add to that time travel and teleportation opens Avenue for Bfr.

I don't see how Telepathy would have any effect - Henshaw doesn't have a brain.

As for Technopathy - that honestly seems like a stalemate, both can do it to pretty much the same degree.

#43 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetruebarryallen: I was told he has actually succumbed to telepath before against Tribunal Prime.

I don't exactly agree on the technopathy part because Ultron has both resisted technopathy and taken over a planet full of hyper powerful technopathy (a group powerful enough to enslave entire Kree galaxy with texhnopathy in matter of hours including not just every piece of technology but every single living being just as well )

Does CS have good enough defense against that ?

Add to that time travel and teleportation for Bfr.

#44 Posted by Frozen (16542 posts) - - Show Bio
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#45 Edited by TheTrueBarryAllen (6360 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall said:

@thetruebarryallen: I was told he has actually succumbed to telepath before against Tribunal Prime.

I don't exactly agree on the technopathy part because Ultron has both resisted technopathy and taken over a planet full of hyper powerful technopathy (a group powerful enough to enslave entire Kree galaxy with texhnopathy in matter of hours including not just every piece of technology but every single living being just as well )

Does CS have good enough defense against that ?

Add to that time travel and teleportation for Bfr.

I mean - CS is just a consciousness, he inhabits the machine as a body but he's theoretically formless.

I don't recall Technopathy ever being used on CS - but he too has planetary level technopathy & has designed bodies to fight Superman in a mere matter of seconds that were made out of children's toys.

I mean - I guess there's Time Travel for the BFR but Ultron knows nothing about Henshaw as they've never encountered each other, I don't see him being able to figure all this out in the midst of a fight & then him going back in time to kill Henshaw before he was born or any of that mumbo jumbo, unless Ultron does that on a regular basis?

CS can't teleport naturally - but he can easily design something that allows him to, so he could quickly return to the battlefield to resume the match, unless it's a "ring out" sort of deal.

EDIT** - I just realize Henshaw has his rings as well - so he use those to open up wormholes & whatnot for transportation like any other Yellow Lantern could.

#46 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetruebarryallen: I think you misunderstand the first part. Ultron did not just take over a planet full of technology but rather a planet full of technopaths who themselves were powerful enough to enslave a galaxy wide one of the most advance civilization on marvel universe including every living beings just as well.

The way I see it Phalanx themselves were just as good if not better technopaths than Hank. If Ultra could take over them why not Hank ?

The time travel ability wasn't to suggest he would go back in time and kill CS , something that doesn't even work in marvel, but rather simply teleport Cs to say 100 years in the future. It's an effective Bfr.

#47 Posted by reaverlation (17109 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: If Ultron could use telepathy,then wouldn't that make Ultron susceptible to telepathy as well?

#48 Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen (6360 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: Impressive for Ultron - but Hank isn't a machine.

There isn't anything for Ultron to take over - he can take Hanks current body over perhaps but Hank isn't stuck in it - he can jump from machine to machine.

As for that means of BFR - perhaps, but Henshaw has a way to come back from it - he's built devices as complicated as a time machine before.

I see this mainly as a Stalemate, unless Ultron can switch bodies too.

#49 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetruebarryallen: Phalanx aren't machine either. Paraxgora wasn't a machine either. The are both pretty powerful technopaths as well. Ultron had no problem taking them over.

He would need to built a time machine to come back and also know what time period he has been BFR too. I don't find it very feasible but who knows.

@reaverlation: his telepathy is based on light beam manipulation rather than his brain. I suppose it's more like Hypnosis.

#50 Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen (6360 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: Like I said though - Henshaw ISN'T a machine, he's a conscousness that can move from machine to machine and uses machines to interact with the world as "physical bodies" but he himself is completely formless. Ultron can't take over his consciousness.

As for the BFR, there isn't really a time limit, is there - like, it might take Henshaw a while to locate a calendar but he could return to the time period right when the fight was about to begin.

I think they're just gonna end up stalemating, unless Ultron can be put down - and I'm not too knowledgeable on Ultrons durability, I know he has Adamantium covering's but that's where my knowledge stops.