Ultron's a non-factor. Mags can easily one-shot him. Then it's 2on1 against Apoc. Mags vs Pocy could go either way, but with Bolt they should win pretty solidly.
Team two wins easily. Magneto could solo. Magneto vs a metal robot, even an Adamantium-shelled one, is really one-sided as he has already shown that he can easily manipulate Adamantium (Wolverines skeleton) not to mention the non-Adamantium metal parts of Ultron's body and he defeated Apocalypse already as shown in the image below.
I swear there is a Ultron incarnation that took on a large portion of Marvel heroes.
You are correct. There was on more than one occasion. But Magneto has as well. He and Namor took out the X-Men, Avengers, and Fantastic Four at the same time, and he soloed the X-Men, X-Force, and X-Factor all at once. Not only that, Ultron's best incarnation is adamantium, which falls under ferromagnetism, which is Magneto's easiest power to control. And even though Ultron is powerful, smart, and shielded against EMP's, Mags can easily rip him apart and destroy/dissipate his power source, not to mention maybe even directly manipulate Ultron's electronic consciousness. This still isn't as easy as everyone wants to make it. But team 2 should win for a pretty solid majority.
I swear there is a Ultron incarnation that took on a large portion of Marvel heroes.
You are correct. There was on more than one occasion. But Magneto has as well. He and Namor took out the X-Men, Avengers, and Fantastic Four at the same time, and he soloed the X-Men, X-Force, and X-Factor all at once. Not only that, Ultron's best incarnation is adamantium, which falls under ferromagnetism, which is Magneto's easiest power to control. And even though Ultron is powerful, smart, and shielded against EMP's, Mags can easily rip him apart and destroy/dissipate his power source, not to mention maybe even directly manipulate Ultron's electronic consciousness. This still isn't as easy as everyone wants to make it. But team 2 should win for a pretty solid majority.
Morals off? I'm not sure if either one from Team 1 can withstand a full scream from Black Bolt. Throw Magneto into the mix, Team 2 can probably win this with some difficulty.
I swear there is a Ultron incarnation that took on a large portion of Marvel heroes.
You are correct. There was on more than one occasion. But Magneto has as well. He and Namor took out the X-Men, Avengers, and Fantastic Four at the same time, and he soloed the X-Men, X-Force, and X-Factor all at once. Not only that, Ultron's best incarnation is adamantium, which falls under ferromagnetism, which is Magneto's easiest power to control. And even though Ultron is powerful, smart, and shielded against EMP's, Mags can easily rip him apart and destroy/dissipate his power source, not to mention maybe even directly manipulate Ultron's electronic consciousness. This still isn't as easy as everyone wants to make it. But team 2 should win for a pretty solid majority.
Ultron most powerfull version was one from Annihilation Conquest actually. Still, I am not sure if he can resist Mags or not.
Ultron most powerfull version was one from Annihilation Conquest actually. Still, I am not sure if he can resist Mags or not.
He was adamantium in that wasn't he? Even if he's not Mags can still use paramagnetism to rip him apart, can still control his powersource, and can still probably directly affect his electronic consciousness.
Team two wins easily. Magneto could solo. Magneto vs a metal robot, even an Adamantium-shelled one, is really one-sided as he has already shown that he can easily manipulate Adamantium (Wolverines skeleton) not to mention the non-Adamantium metal parts of Ultron's body and he defeated Apocalypse already as shown in the image below.
Not 616. This was a weaker version of both Mags and Apoc.
Team two wins easily. Magneto could solo. Magneto vs a metal robot, even an Adamantium-shelled one, is really one-sided as he has already shown that he can easily manipulate Adamantium (Wolverines skeleton) not to mention the non-Adamantium metal parts of Ultron's body and he defeated Apocalypse already as shown in the image below.
Not 616. This was a weaker version of both Mags and Apoc.
Got ya. My mistake. Still, there's no reason he could not do the same thing to a more powerful 616 Apocalypse considering that the 616 version of Magneto is more powerful as well.
I swear there is a Ultron incarnation that took on a large portion of Marvel heroes.
You are correct. There was on more than one occasion. But Magneto has as well. He and Namor took out the X-Men, Avengers, and Fantastic Four at the same time, and he soloed the X-Men, X-Force, and X-Factor all at once. Not only that, Ultron's best incarnation is adamantium, which falls under ferromagnetism, which is Magneto's easiest power to control. And even though Ultron is powerful, smart, and shielded against EMP's, Mags can easily rip him apart and destroy/dissipate his power source, not to mention maybe even directly manipulate Ultron's electronic consciousness. This still isn't as easy as everyone wants to make it. But team 2 should win for a pretty solid majority.
Ultron most powerfull version was one from Annihilation Conquest actually. Still, I am not sure if he can resist Mags or not.
Ultron is a non-factor. As powerful and potent as he is, he's still made of adamantium, and Mags should be able to destroy him without much effort. Apocalypse and Mags have fought before. Apocalypse won, but not easily as I recall. But with Black Bolts here they should stomp Apocalypse pretty hard.
Got ya. My mistake. Still, there's no reason he could not do the same thing to a more powerful 616 Apocalypse considering that the 616 version of Magneto is more powerful as well.
I tend to agree, but it would be harder. 616 Apoc has much more Celestial tech, and I believe is older/more experienced than his AOA counterpart. Luckily Mags has Blackbolt for backup so they should definitely win.
@NyghtMare said:
Black Bolt could probably solo. With no morals, he could scream and it's game over.
Apoc has tanked equivalent damage to Blackbolt's scream. Easily I might add. The big advantage of Blackbolt in this situation is that he can use his electron control to boost Magneto.
Got ya. My mistake. Still, there's no reason he could not do the same thing to a more powerful 616 Apocalypse considering that the 616 version of Magneto is more powerful as well.
I tend to agree, but it would be harder. 616 Apoc has much more Celestial tech, and I believe is older/more experienced than his AOA counterpart. Luckily Mags has Blackbolt for backup so they should definitely win.
@NyghtMare said:
Black Bolt could probably solo. With no morals, he could scream and it's game over.
Apoc has tanked equivalent damage to Blackbolt's scream. Easily I might add. The big advantage of Blackbolt in this situation is that he can use his electron control to boost Magneto.
How and when? Not disputing, just curious, I've never seen Apocalypse take that kind of damage.
Morals off? I'm not sure if either one from Team 1 can withstand a full scream from Black Bolt. Throw Magneto into the mix, Team 2 can probably win this with some difficulty.
Yeah its like this
Magneto [Uses his powers to make Team 1 unable to move]: "My friend has something he'd like to say to you..."
Morals off? I'm not sure if either one from Team 1 can withstand a full scream from Black Bolt. Throw Magneto into the mix, Team 2 can probably win this with some difficulty.
Yeah its like this
Magneto [Uses his powers to make Team 1 unable to move]: "My friend has something he'd like to say to you..."
Black Bolt: "GAME OVER!!!!!"
@NyghtMare said:
@yodagod said:
Apoc has tanked equivalent damage to Blackbolt's scream. Easily I might add. The big advantage of Blackbolt in this situation is that he can use his electron control to boost Magneto.
How and when? Not disputing, just curious, I've never seen Apocalypse take that kind of damage.
I could probably give you at least two dozen scans including tanking the High Evolutionary's best blasts, taking the best from any of a number of powerful Eternals, schooling Exodus while taking his best physical and mental attacks, taking full blasts from all of the X-Men at once many many times, etc... but this one scan should do...
This is the combined forces of the original X-Factor, the Inhumans, plus a few friends. Apoc tanks full power blasts from Cyke, Jean, and Rachel, as well as future tech weapons blasts, and as I'm sure you notice, Blackbolt in full scream.
Morals off? I'm not sure if either one from Team 1 can withstand a full scream from Black Bolt. Throw Magneto into the mix, Team 2 can probably win this with some difficulty.
Yeah its like this
Magneto [Uses his powers to make Team 1 unable to move]: "My friend has something he'd like to say to you..."
Black Bolt: "GAME OVER!!!!!"
@NyghtMare said:
@yodagod said:
Apoc has tanked equivalent damage to Blackbolt's scream. Easily I might add. The big advantage of Blackbolt in this situation is that he can use his electron control to boost Magneto.
How and when? Not disputing, just curious, I've never seen Apocalypse take that kind of damage.
I could probably give you at least two dozen scans including tanking the High Evolutionary's best blasts, taking the best from any of a number of powerful Eternals, schooling Exodus while taking his best physical and mental attacks, taking full blasts from all of the X-Men at once many many times, etc... but this one scan should do...
This is the combined forces of the original X-Factor, the Inhumans, plus a few friends. Apoc tanks full power blasts from Cyke, Jean, and Rachel, as well as future tech weapons blasts, and as I'm sure you notice, Blackbolt in full scream.
That'll do just fine, lol. I'm not real well versed in Apoc, I was unaware he could tank this kinda power.
Ultron blows Magneto up with a plastic explosive whilst staying hidden and Apocalypse slaughters Black Bolt
Magneto can sense through the EM field so Ultron can't stay hidden, and Mags can affect plastic explosives, not to mention that he's tanked the Phoenix and Galactus.
@yodagod: Isn't it possible that Magneto could pull Apoc out of his armor?
I would bring up X-Men the End but that was a very giant PIS storyline.
He could. It'll be harder with the amount of Celestial tech Apoc has now, but Mags still has subatomic control. Apoc can hold himself together at the molecular level, and has insane durability, as we know, but Mags' superior control should win out in the end IMO. With Blackbolt's electron control augmenting Mags, it should be fairly easy here.
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