Ultimates vs Avengers (remake)

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#1  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

Hulk, Invisible Woman, Quicksilver, Thor (God Hood), Iron Man (Anthony Tumor)

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Ms Marvel, Luke Cage, Iron Man (Extremis), Quicksilver, Red Hulk

Death or KO.

No BFR.

In character.

Battle here starting 100 feet apart.

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Current Ms Marvel?

Even so I think that Anthony Turner can take out enough of the team for the Ultimates to win, unless Ms Marvel goes Binary

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@laflux: I'm not sure is a Ms Marvel has some amp righ now, but I meant the average herself.

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I'm inclined to go with Ultimates.

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I belieive T1, Thor, Hulk, IW are gonna hit haard. Invisible Woman could take care of cage's invulnerability with a force field from within. Ultimate IM is just strong. Hulk is a bamf. QS in ultimate can run about 5-7x the speed of light. ;/

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@sirfizzwhizz: current Ms marvel is called captain marvel. I don't think her regular form is any more powerful than it used to be (recently she blitzed doc green but he just laughed it off and oneshotted her) but she has a form called binary which is pretty powerful, planetary level IIRC.

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Team 2.

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@sirfizzwhizz: current Ms marvel is called captain marvel. I don't think her regular form is any more powerful than it used to be (recently she blitzed doc green but he just laughed it off and oneshotted her) but she has a form called binary which is pretty powerful, planetary level IIRC.

Binary is nothing new, she first had that i the 80s, and a few more times after that.

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Ult. Iron Man summons the Hulkbuster and fries Rulk.

He is unhackable since the tumor is actually an infinity gem.

Ult. Sue is quite strong too.

I am not sure which Quicksilver is better?

Extremis Iron Man and Ms. Marvel are MVPs though and can end this with effort

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Ult. Iron Man summons the Hulkbuster and fries Rulk.

He is unhackable since the tumor is actually an infinity gem.

Ult. Sue is quite strong too.

I am not sure which Quicksilver is better?

Extremis Iron Man and Ms. Marvel are MVPs though and can end this with effort

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/ultimate-quicksilver-vs-kid-flash-bart-allen-598079/

For all feats on ultimate Quicksilver are mostly found here.

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#13  Edited By RisingBean

Ultimates team. Every single member is a beast and top tier for the Ult U while 616 Quicksilver and Cage are weak links. It's a throwdown, but I think they edge it out.

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@risingbean: I don't see any of the Ultimates putting down Extremis Iron Man or Ms. Marvel.

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Team Ultimates wins in a really good fight IMO.

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Ultimates win.

@risingbean: I don't see any of the Ultimates putting down Extremis Iron Man or Ms. Marvel.

Ultimate Quicksilver is more than fast enough to get around the Extremis speed boost. He 's also cracked Ultimate Thing's hide via millions of paper cuts, so he can come up with something to crack the armor too.

As for Captain Marvel, if Ultimate Sue can't just put her down with an internal force field she can at least restrain her. Then once Ultimate Hulk (or one of the other heavy hitters) gets his mitts on her, it's all over.

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@risingbean: I don't see any of the Ultimates putting down Extremis Iron Man or Ms. Marvel.

Tough fight. But Cage and 616 QS go down instantly. It's a 5 on 3. I could see Sue using fields to assist Hulk into getting his hands on 616 Stark. I could see 1610 Stark pulling out his gene whatchamahoozit to drop guys like Rulk. (He dropped Ult Green Goblin and Sandman with it.)

At the end of the day, the 616 weak links cost them the fight. At least in my humble opp. While 1610 Thor and Hulk may not be 616 level, they are not pushovers.

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It's basically 5v3, but Carol, Extremis Tony, and Red Hulk can be pretty beast. Carol can literally keep absorbing Ult Iron Man's energy attacks (done it to 616 Tony) and Red Hulk's recent throwdown with Doc Green shook the entirety of North America, so if any one of the Ultimates brawl with him it's going to hurt.

Still that Ultimate team is pretty stacked and despite the three 616ers causing heavy casualties and damage I think the Ult team pulls a minor 6/10 majority.

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@gaztacular: Except Stark has more experience with speedsters and is MUCH more durable than Ult. Thing. It took an enraged Odin Force Thor to destroy the Extremis armor.

Now that I saw the edit though, Ult Thor with Godhood is too much for the 616 team.

Luke Cage is such a weak link in this fight.

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#24  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

@granitesoldier said:

It's basically 5v3, but Carol, Extremis Tony, and Red Hulk can be pretty beast. Carol can literally keep absorbing Ult Iron Man's energy attacks (done it to 616 Tony) and Red Hulk's recent throwdown with Doc Green shook the entirety of North America, so if any one of the Ultimates brawl with him it's going to hurt.

Still that Ultimate team is pretty stacked and despite the three 616ers causing heavy casualties and damage I think the Ult team pulls a minor 6/10 majority.

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Warmachine and Tyron Cash are inferior to Iron man and Hulk respectively, second rate, but Warmachine armor held up to country shaking blows of Cash. Warmachine was still flight and fight able after that too. Seems people do not think Ultimates are on that level either, but they are :)

Also I am pretty sure Bendis cage tank a modern nuke with no issues, not a super weak link feat I would say.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Bendis Cage did that and died later on. He certainly didn't tank it

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Ultimates for once.

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@laflux said:

@sirfizzwhizz: Bendis Cage did that and died later on. He certainly didn't tank it

huh.... good to know.

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@sirfizzwhizz: He has some good feats under Bendis though, like knocking out Vision and Thing.

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@laflux said:

@sirfizzwhizz: He has some good feats under Bendis though, like knocking out Vision and Thing.

thats impressive indeed.