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Morals on

Peter has full knowledge but only 2 days of prep.

Battle will take place in titan tower. The Titans become aware of spidy's presence a minute after he infiltrates.(They have no knowledge on who spiderman is or his capabilities mind you.)

Considering how people believed That earth 1610 spidey would get stomped. I switched it to Earth 616.

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Considering it's animated titans most if not all of them could solo spiderman

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Titans stomp

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im pretty sure cyborg picked up a tower and threw it. and star fire ended up being stronger than him

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Still Titans. Starfire, Cyborg and Raven could possibly solo.

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@w0nd: A tower?

yeah an actual building lol. Idk how he pulled that off.

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@w0nd: Must have been inconsistent.

@deathhero61: Dude Starfire solos

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I really don't see how this tops anybody spiderman has faced. Starfire by herself gets wrecked. Easily.

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@godzilla44: she's basically a kryptonian in this show lol, but they didn't show her to be that strong until later in the episodes, they wasted her by making her fly head on throwing orb blasts.

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@tohoma said:

Still Titans. Starfire, Cyborg and Raven could possibly solo.

Raven maybe but cyborg and starfire are not soloing. Cyborg is too slow, and Starfire is physically inferior to spiderman. One good hit and she is gone. If robin can give the titans decent trouble. Spidey would give them hell.

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Titans.

Good thing morals are on, otherwise it'd be a potential stomp- Raven would solo.

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@w0nd said:

@godzilla44: she's basically a kryptonian in this show lol, but they didn't show her to be that strong until later in the episodes, they wasted her by making her fly head on throwing orb blasts.

Nothing in the video he showed puts her on a kryptonian's level. TV show starfire would be classified as street level based on feats.

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@w0nd: Must have been inconsistent.

wwellll it was laster on, after that episode with atlas where he over comes his limit.

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#20  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

@deathhero61: You're kidding right? Pete is in no way stronger than Starfire who could smile while lifting weights one handed that Cyborg was struggling with.

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@tohoma said:

Still Titans. Starfire, Cyborg and Raven could possibly solo.

Raven maybe but cyborg and starfire are not soloing. Cyborg is too slow, and Starfire is physically inferior to spiderman. One good hit and she is gone. If robin can give the titans decent trouble. Spidey would give them hell.

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she lifts a car up with one foot and punts it effortlessly

robins staff crumbles after he gets a solid hit on her

she picks up a bus and throws it effortlessly, all while handcuffed in alien tech.

Idk how she is physically inferior.

The shows main issue is they didn't have these consistent feats, at the start, and i honestly dont think they knew what to do with the characters in the first season, that's why cyborg maxed out at 500 in one episode, but later on he was shown lifting buildings....

same reason Robing took them all out as red X, and same reason star fire has those feats in a flash back that came out after the first season but never shown those kind of feats in the early eps.

I also recall cyborg rerouting all power in the block to his cannons and basically transforming his body for a devistating one off. (might only work near titan tower)

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@w0nd: When exactly did Cyborg lift a building? I don't recall that happening.

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@w0nd said:

@godzilla44: she's basically a kryptonian in this show lol, but they didn't show her to be that strong until later in the episodes, they wasted her by making her fly head on throwing orb blasts.

Nothing in the video he showed puts her on a kryptonian's level. TV show starfire would be classified as street level based on feats.

video, and that was all while being restrained and weakend, and hasn't gone through her "evolution" yet. She in my opinion is pretty much an animated kryptonian who are weaker than the comic versions. If cyborg is chucking buildings around, and he is weaker than her,,,,well then yeah...

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@w0nd: When exactly did Cyborg lift a building? I don't recall that happening.

ill find the episode name , if im lucky a clip

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was faster than I thought...

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@w0nd said:

@godzilla44: she's basically a kryptonian in this show lol, but they didn't show her to be that strong until later in the episodes, they wasted her by making her fly head on throwing orb blasts.

Nothing in the video he showed puts her on a kryptonian's level. TV show starfire would be classified as street level based on feats.

What the hell did you even watch the video they were flying through buildings how's that street level. In the first episode she goes around throwing cars like nothing

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Teen Titians due to having a way better show than that thing people call a Spiderman show

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@w0nd: Damn I need to go watch the final season again, because I do not recall that fight at all.

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@w0nd: wow that was fast :)

I couldn't find it Zzzz

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#30  Edited By DeathHero61

@godzilla44: They were smashing walls. How is that impressive?

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@deathhero61 said:

@w0nd said:

@godzilla44: she's basically a kryptonian in this show lol, but they didn't show her to be that strong until later in the episodes, they wasted her by making her fly head on throwing orb blasts.

Nothing in the video he showed puts her on a kryptonian's level. TV show starfire would be classified as street level based on feats.

video, and that was all while being restrained and weakend, and hasn't gone through her "evolution" yet. She in my opinion is pretty much an animated kryptonian who are weaker than the comic versions. If cyborg is chucking buildings around, and he is weaker than her,,,,well then yeah...

Like i said the series is inconsistent. If cyborg was lifting and smacking people with buildings, he wouldn't have problems with all the other foes the titans face.

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@deathhero61 said:
@tohoma said:

Still Titans. Starfire, Cyborg and Raven could possibly solo.

Raven maybe but cyborg and starfire are not soloing. Cyborg is too slow, and Starfire is physically inferior to spiderman. One good hit and she is gone. If robin can give the titans decent trouble. Spidey would give them hell.

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she lifts a car up with one foot and punts it effortlessly

robins staff crumbles after he gets a solid hit on her

she picks up a bus and throws it effortlessly, all while handcuffed in alien tech.

Idk how she is physically inferior.

The shows main issue is they didn't have these consistent feats, at the start, and i honestly dont think they knew what to do with the characters in the first season, that's why cyborg maxed out at 500 in one episode, but later on he was shown lifting buildings....

same reason Robing took them all out as red X, and same reason star fire has those feats in a flash back that came out after the first season but never shown those kind of feats in the early eps.

I also recall cyborg rerouting all power in the block to his cannons and basically transforming his body for a devistating one off. (might only work near titan tower)

Spiderman has been throwing cars easily since he first appeared. Not impressive.

I don't see how spidey wouldn't do the same thing.

Been there done that.

Of course they don't especially a series like teen titans. The characters are bound to be inconsistent. I cyborg was slapping people with buildings he shouldn't have any problems with cinderblock or mammoth in the slightest. Raven at one point made was fighting Triton who was essentially satan then an episode later she falls to weaker foes.

If we go based off their base and most consistent feats. I say spiderman takes this. With prep and full knowledge?

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@w0nd: Damn I need to go watch the final season again, because I do not recall that fight at all.

like i said, I honestly believe they had no idea what to do with the characters in the first season, and then randomly throughout the show they were like. ..."sooo star fire is pretty strong in the comics huh......lets go ahead and add that now" "i think it's time Cyborg got an upgrade...lets remove that 500 pound limitation he had when he was working out in that atlas ep, he can now lift buildings"
"oh by the way beast boy gets to keep his super werewolf form that gave the other characters a run for their money, but he has full control now.... AND he can turn into alien animals"

it's not even character development, because they all just randomly do these things with no reason or warning...

That's why these characters are impossible to debate with lmao

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Titans easy.

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#33  Edited By godzilla44

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@godzilla44: They were smashing walls. How is that impressive?

I never said it was super impressive, you said she's a street level when she's clearly not. You also keep saying they lose to weak villains and they don't the only weak villain they lost to was Red x and that's only because he prepped for that fight.

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@godzilla44: Wall busting is within street level. And Dr.Light? Mammoth? Jinx? Gizmo? These guys are all jokes in the animated version of titans. The list goes on.

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No one here is beating spidey in a place where he can maneuver the environment if they're all morals on. 616 spidey is too strong and agile for any of them especially with two days of prep! Spidermans clone would've broken his hand if he hit spiderman and peter didn't roll with it. That's much stronger than a steel cane lol. Spidey too can run around tossing cars effortlessly. He's picked up a whole train before. (Roughly 40-80 tons) cyborg isn't picking a building up and hitting spidey with it in character. Spidey takes majority easily. I'm open for debate :)

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@deathhero61: We'll have to agree to disagree because those villains aren't street levelers

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#37  Edited By proto3296

Why do so many people think that the teen titans, can beat quite possibly the strongest street leveler in marvel and in DC? Hes also given two days of prep, Pete also happens to be one of the smartest men on marvel earth. He has fully knowledge of the team. He's shown reflexes fast enough to dodge anyone here. Some please explain it to me!

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#38  Edited By RegnierOfHexter

@proto3296: resources he doesn't always have

Also team still takes bonus round; also cyborg may be slow speed w8se but his reaction is not slow and he is still pretty agile

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teen titans beat him in pretty much every way. I'm pretty sure the Tower itself has defenses.

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@w0nd: Was that weight really 500lbs? Are you sure it wasn't 500 tons or something? I know people in real life that can lift that much, so it wouldn't make sense for Cyborg to struggle with it. And to be fair, that whole episode was about Vic surpassing his robot limitations and by the end of it he was shown stronger than Atlas who lifted Beast Boy as a humpback whale with no trouble whatsoever. As for Beast Boy, he did have SOME control over it when he first transformed since he tried to protect Raven and kill Adonis. I guess we're just to assume he trained to gain more control of it. He only turned into that alien animal once, and that's something even the comic book version could do so it wasn't that much of a surprise.

I get what you're saying, but they did show some power development. Hell, entire episodes were devoted to it (Starfire going through puberty, Raven learning from Lorek, Robin training with that old lady and the animals etc.) Like I said I'll prolly have to go rewatch some of it, but it's not like they got new powers for no reason.

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@regnierofhexter: I'm just saying how though? Spiderman is stronger than everyone here. And cyborg can be webbed incapped very easily

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@deathhero61: We'll have to agree to disagree because those villains aren't street levelers

Yes they are. Are you seriously arguing that gizmo isn't street level? And neither is jinx? Because i bet both can get knocked out from a few punches and kicks from robin

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@deathhero61: Considering Robin has laid out superhumans like Mammoth and Cinderblock with punches and kicks, I don't doubt it.

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I love the Teen titans tv show and they have great feats but all of the titans got trapped in redx goo which isn't nearly as strong as spideys webbing. spidey isn't the strongest here but is definitely the fastest and with prep its a stopm

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Why do so many people think that the teen titans, can beat quite possibly the strongest street leveler in marvel and in DC? Hes also given two days of prep, Pete also happens to be one of the smartest men on marvel earth. He has fully knowledge of the team. He's shown reflexes fast enough to dodge anyone here. Some please explain it to me!

because ultimate spidey is the main round, and this is the same idiot who woke up the human torch instead of ice man to fight a fire absorber. And the some person who got shot multiple times even when he had a spider sense. He got out of fights barely in some cases

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@sasukemilesmorales: All of the titans also got out of Red X's goo and how do you know it wasn't as strong as Ult Peter's webbing? Considering it was made specifically for them and Starfire had to blast her way out of it instead of muscle her way through I believe it's the very least comparable.

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@w0nd said:

@proto3296 said:

Why do so many people think that the teen titans, can beat quite possibly the strongest street leveler in marvel and in DC? Hes also given two days of prep, Pete also happens to be one of the smartest men on marvel earth. He has fully knowledge of the team. He's shown reflexes fast enough to dodge anyone here. Some please explain it to me!

because ultimate spidey is the main round, and this is the same idiot who woke up the human torch instead of ice man to fight a fire absorber. And the some person who got shot multiple times even when he had a spider sense. He got out of fights barely in some cases

earth 1610 spidey has dodged bullets far more than getting tagged by them. Plus spidey is the same "idiot" he has developed webs in the first place by making them himself. Same guy who managed to pin down the kingpin. Same guy who knew the science behind the symbiote(while virtually no one else understood.) Ult.Spidey is a rookie but he is no dumbass.

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@deathhero61: Considering Robin has laid out superhumans like Mammoth and Cinderblock with punches and kicks, I don't doubt it.


Pretty sure peakhumans have done the same. So no. Especially batman. So again i do doubt it.

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@deathhero61: We'll have to agree to disagree because those villains aren't street levelers

Yes they are. Are you seriously arguing that gizmo isn't street level? And neither is jinx? Because i bet both can get knocked out from a few punches and kicks from robin

Dude the only one that looks like he's street leveler is gizmo but it's his gadgets that make him dangerous.

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Just give up and stop being ignorant Raven freaking beat Trigon

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#50 juiceboks  Moderator

@deathhero61: Except people like Batman don't lay out characters as strong as Mammoth or Cinderblock consistently like Robin in the show did..and you realize you just switched stances right?