Ultimate Spider-Man runs the 616 Spider villain gauntlet

Ultimate Spider-Man(Peter)

Rounds:

1. Vulture
2. Morbius
3. Shocker
4. Kraven
5. Doctor Octopus
6. Hobgoblin(Kingsly)
7. Green Goblin
8. Scorpion
9. Black Tarantula
10. Lizard(Pre-shed)
11. Venom(Eddie)

Rules:

• Pre-depowered Green Goblin.
• Doctor Octopus has titanium arms.
• Kraven has his healing factor.
• Scorpion has his jaw.
• Standard gear.
• Gets a day of rest between each round.
• Random encounter.
• Morals on.
• Start 50 feet apart.
• Fight takes place here:

I don't think he makes it past lizard. I can't see him putting Lizard down or restraining him and Lizard is capable of tagging him.

The goblins could go either way, and I say he would beat scorpion. He loses to 10 and 11 without a doubt.

Really? How durable is pre-shed Lizard? If that's true, he should probably be higher(I based his placement on a thread you made 3 years ago so it might be out of place).

He possibly doesn't even get past Morbius. Ultimate Spider-Man can fight Green Goblin and Venom all day. But he has shown at multiple times he is immensely fresked out and afraid of the supernatural. Even if 616 Morbius is a science created vampire. He's still muscled an older, stronger Peter around.

i say he stops at shocker :-| ultimate shocker was kinda .... terrible and i could see ultimate spiderman being all cocky in the fight against 616 shocker and facing a tough wake up call....... 616 shocker is actually quite a beast and is far more versatile than ultimate shocker

Yeah that situation actually happened in Ultimate Shockers last appearance. Ultimate Spider-Man did exactly what you said, and when Shocker snapped and attacked him furiously he was KO'ed. Shocker then took him to a warehouse and proceeded to torture, taunt,and insult him all day until the cops were able to find the hideout.

Peter has stated that he cannot hold back against Lizard. He also has hurt his hand punching lizard back in the day.

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There is another showing where its stated Peter does subconsciously pull his punches against lizard since he is curt connors but I consider that outdated compared to the one where Peter says he can't hold back.

There is also the healing factor.

@jashro44 said:

@highaccuser said:

@jashro44 said:

I don't think he makes it past lizard. I can't see him putting Lizard down or restraining him and Lizard is capable of tagging him.

Really? How durable is pre-shed Lizard? If that's true, he should probably be higher(I based his placement on a thread you made 3 years ago so it might be out of place).

Peter has stated that he cannot hold back against Lizard. He also has hurt his hand punching lizard back in the day.

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There is another showing where its stated Peter does subconsciously pull his punches against lizard since he is curt connors but I consider that outdated compared to the one where Peter says he can't hold back.

There is also the healing factor.

In that case I'll put him between Carlos and Eddie.

@highaccuser: Alright. How much rest does he get? With no rest I say he can stop between Kraven, dock ock, or hob goblin.

A day. I'll edit that into the OP.

@highaccuser: He could stop at the goblins. He wont make it past black tarantula though.

hes not getting past BT... all of the others before are due to circumstance

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Actually he beaten shocker by himself while tied up and tortured before the police ever arrive.

Honestly i see him making it to Venom. most people forget unlike 616 foes who have PG rated morals many times, the Ultimate Spider villains are more deadly in powers, and character. Ultimate Doc Ock, Green Goblin, and even Venom are all superior in some way to the counterparts of 616 Doc Ock, Green Goblin, and Eddie Brock Venom. The biggest problems might be Black Tarantula or Lizard, but both can be easy beaten by Web Spamming which Ultimate peter does infact do alot in his comics.

@sirfizzwhizz:

The biggest problems might be Black Tarantula or Lizard, but both can be easy beaten by Web Spamming which Ultimate peter does infact do alot in his comics.

Black Tarantula has ripped through webs before, just for the record.

since those are essentially the same villains he face anyway, i say he clears.

Stops at Vulture.

Stops at Lizard. He has given 616 Spidey lots of trouble over the years.

I agree.

Wouldn't that put Black Tarantula Higher in strength to Carnage? Yet Daredevil beats him, something off there. How much web was used? Ultimate Peter's webs been busted by Doc Ock as well, but when he lays it on thick not so much.

So in short, unless it was a hefty amount of webbing he busted through, I see no reason for him to a Web Spam.

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Thats alot of webbing to break out of.

@sirfizzwhizz: Come on man, Black Tarantula roflstomped a woman who could crush tanks in her hand. If Matt did beat him (which I don't remember, though he did work for Matt while was in charge of the Hand), then there was almost certainly other factors involved.

@sirfizzwhizz:

Wouldn't that put Black Tarantula Higher in strength to Carnage? Yet Daredevil beats him, something off there. How much web was used? Ultimate Peter's webs been busted by Doc Ock as well, but when he lays it on thick not so much.

No. It can just be credited as inconsistency on the webbings part. He's not as strong as Carnage. Daredevil beating him would be PIS considering he's stomped Spider-Man twice. It wasn't a lot of webbing, just some around the eyes. The thing is, he's basically stronger than 616 Spider-Man. Weather or not you believe that's a virtue that will let him bust webs is up to you.

@sirfizzwhizz: Black tarantula "lost" (not really since it wasn't even a fight daredevil just started choking him) to shadowland daredevil who was amped. And even that is PIS considering Peter was able to barely out muscle Matt in shadowland, yet Peter was weaker than black tarantula in their fights and couldn't even hurt him. Black tarantula managed to break out of impact webbing. He stomped a girl who crushed tanks with his bare hands. He's not getting webbed uip.

I recall daredevil was choking him in shadow land. Beyond that I don't remember them fighting.

If he makes it to 11 he's dead...

@laflux: @highaccuser: @jashro44: I only seen a few feats of BT. Is he stronger than say Eddie Venom? lizard? Luke Cage?

I'd say his strength rivals Brock's and Lizards. Cage is likely stronger than he is/punches harder than he does, at least when Bendis is writing him.

He is stronger than Eddie, as durable, but he isn't as agile or fast.

Yeah, I was thinking of the same thing. Don't really call that a fight.

He really has no chance in 9,10, and 11....

I still do not even think he beats Morbius...

@laflux: @jashro44: then he would probably lose to BT much like he. Annoy out him down anymore than say Ultimate Green Goblin.

Eh, Morbius hasn't been that impressive.

Parker clears. His universe is far more dangerous and ruthless compared to 616. Most of these villains' counterparts from the 1610 are superior. But I believe this to be just another thread filled with negative 1610 bias.

Stops at either lizard or venom tbh. I’m not confident he can put them down.