Ultimate Quicksilver vs Kid Flash (Bart Allen)

 Location: Open area with no obstructions. They start 1,000 meters apart.
 
Win by KO or death. No BFR.
 
Round 1: Morals on.
Round 2: Morals off.
 
Who wins?
 
PS: I was rather inspired by my reading Ultimates vol. 2.

How fast is ultimate qs? 

I'm pretty sure Bart can reach speeds faster than hypersonic.

I'd say kid flash but this is Ouch worthy lol .

Overall I would think Bart should win, just more feats of a high calibur.

" i dont think there is anyone as fast as a flash lv being marvel has no one on this level (maybe silver surfer,the runner )bart allen schooled superman when they  were raceing saying he let him win and that he never really tried when they raced  quick silver(if he was at flash level of speed) would be unstoppable and using his speed as a cheat code to always win "

The shorter the fight, the greater the possibility of Bart winning.  Ultimate Quicksilver's greater feats of speed were based on the length of his run.  Thanks to his momentum, the longer her fan, the faster he could run, which is how he killed Hurricane.  If I remember, he hit just under lightspeed before Hurricane was burnt up by friction.
 
Quicksilver would take round 1, but Kid Flash, thanks to his wonderful ability to hit 0 mph to whatever the hell he wants without any sort of acceleration, takes round 2.

" The shorter the fight, the greater the possibility of Bart winning.  Ultimate Quicksilver's greater feats of speed were based on the length of his run.  Thanks to his momentum, the longer her fan, the faster he could run, which is how he killed Hurricane.  If I remember, he hit just under lightspeed before Hurricane was burnt up by friction.  Quicksilver would take round 1, but Kid Flash, thanks to his wonderful ability to hit 0 mph to whatever the hell he wants without any sort of acceleration, takes round 2. "

" @JediXMan: i think jay can speed steal i may be wrong but it makes the fight unfair if hes got it "

" @ThanosIsMad said:

" The shorter the fight, the greater the possibility of Bart winning.  Ultimate Quicksilver's greater feats of speed were based on the length of his run.  Thanks to his momentum, the longer her fan, the faster he could run, which is how he killed Hurricane.  If I remember, he hit just under lightspeed before Hurricane was burnt up by friction.  Quicksilver would take round 1, but Kid Flash, thanks to his wonderful ability to hit 0 mph to whatever the hell he wants without any sort of acceleration, takes round 2. "

They start the fight 1,000 meters apart. Is that enough room?
 
@Valtot said:

" @JediXMan: i think jay can speed steal i may be wrong but it makes the fight unfair if hes got it "

I don't believe he can. Also, he's not a light speeder (I don't think he is, anyway) "

" @ThanosIsMad said:

" The shorter the fight, the greater the possibility of Bart winning.  Ultimate Quicksilver's greater feats of speed were based on the length of his run.  Thanks to his momentum, the longer her fan, the faster he could run, which is how he killed Hurricane.  If I remember, he hit just under lightspeed before Hurricane was burnt up by friction.  Quicksilver would take round 1, but Kid Flash, thanks to his wonderful ability to hit 0 mph to whatever the hell he wants without any sort of acceleration, takes round 2. "

They start the fight 1,000 meters apart. Is that enough room?
 
@Valtot said:

" @JediXMan: i think jay can speed steal i may be wrong but it makes the fight unfair if hes got it "

I don't believe he can. Also, he's not a light speeder (I don't think he is, anyway) "

Round 1: Kid Flash 
Round 2: Hmmm...

" @JediXMan: i think jay can speed steal i may be wrong but it makes the fight unfair if hes got it "

Bart stomps both rounds, even when he was Impulse he was able to stomp Green Lanterns like they were nothing, as Kid Flash he was embarrassing Superboy Prime.  

" @Cosmic_Falcon:   When did he stomp Green Lanterns? And he fought Prime with Wally. "

" @Cosmic_Falcon:   True. Though I think that was more due to Prime's psyche rather than Bart's skill.  And Kyle was a rookie at the time. "

" @Valtot:   When was the second confrontation? And he doesn't have that kind of power anymore, correct? "

I've been in speedster arguments before and this is what I've found out. 
 
Flashes go Wally>Bart>Barry>Jay.  Barry might move up now that he's alove again.  Bart can steal speed which makes him potnetially the fastest.   
 
Marvel speedsters go Runner>Silver Surfer>Makkari>Then maybe Quicksilver.  This is Marvel's Earth 616 so not sure where Ultimate QS ranks but it seems he's fast enough to be at least 4th in what I just said.   
 
Barry>Silver Surfer.  I was in a massive debate about this and that was the final ruling.  However, there is still debate about the Speed Force working in Marvel Universes.  In Quasar 17, Barry had full use of the speed force while in JLA/Avengers (Can't remember the issue) Barry lost his connection to it.  This being said, if the race was in Marvel U and Speed Force didn't work, SS is faster.  If Speed Force does work or they are in DC Universe, Barry wins.  This is what made everyone agree that Barry was faster.   
 
So, using logic, the ranking for both universes would be Wally>Bart>Barry and Runner (Still don't know who wins that)>Silver Surfer>Makkari>Quicksilver.  I've not heard anything about any Quicksilver reaching Warp Speed and Ultimate QS is the only one I've heard of to break mach 1.  This is number 2 vs number 7.  Bart Allen curb stomp. 

Wally is above Bart in terms of feats

"

I've been in speedster arguments before and this is what I've found out. 
 
Flashes go Wally>Bart>Barry>Jay.  Barry might move up now that he's alove again.  Bart can steal speed which makes him potnetially the fastest.   
 
Marvel speedsters go Runner>Silver Surfer>Makkari>Then maybe Quicksilver.  This is Marvel's Earth 616 so not sure where Ultimate QS ranks but it seems he's fast enough to be at least 4th in what I just said.   
 
Barry>Silver Surfer.  I was in a massive debate about this and that was the final ruling.  However, there is still debate about the Speed Force working in Marvel Universes.  In Quasar 17, Barry had full use of the speed force while in JLA/Avengers (Can't remember the issue) Barry lost his connection to it.  This being said, if the race was in Marvel U and Speed Force didn't work, SS is faster.  If Speed Force does work or they are in DC Universe, Barry wins.  This is what made everyone agree that Barry was faster.   
 
So, using logic, the ranking for both universes would be Wally>Bart>Barry and Runner (Still don't know who wins that)>Silver Surfer>Makkari>Quicksilver.  I've not heard anything about any Quicksilver reaching Warp Speed and Ultimate QS is the only one I've heard of to break mach 1.  This is number 2 vs number 7.  Bart Allen curb stomp. 

"

" @Cosmic_Falcon: Crap.. You're right.  Forgot about that.  I always misplace Wally and Bart at the top.  Still Bart wins here.  "

Bart wrecks him. He is much faster.

" @Thanos1992:   Do we know for certain what speed he reached in the scans posted on the first page? The entire thing occurred before Hawkeye's body hit the ground. It was just floating in mid-air. "

Man, Ultimates were SO COOL before Ultimatum came out. That Quicksilver fight was so sick

Bart wins. For reasons stated. Plus Bart has a connection to the speed force.

X jet speed in the ultimate universe isnt going to be always the same as the normal cont. 0f 616   

Flash speed has always been dicpicted as being able to go from country to country in seconds to minutes a feat quicksilver might be able to do    

(if quick silver as fast as flash why does he not beat the x man single handedly?)  

" @(((Prodigy))) said:

" @Thanos1992:   

X jet speed in the ultimate universe isnt going to be always the same as the normal cont. 0f 616   

 
And I never stated what speed either of them had. 
I was simply pointing out that if we have any way of knowing the top speed of the Ult universe Blackbird, that could give us a picture of how fast QS can run.  
 

Flash speed has always been dicpicted as being able to go from country to country in seconds to minutes a feat quicksilver might be able to do    

 
You may notice that I never posted any opinion on the outcome of this fight. I know hardly anything at all about Bart Allen. I was just trying to offer a bit of insight that could allow us to gauge Ultimate Quicksilver's top speed.  
 

(if quick silver as fast as flash why does he not beat the x man single handedly?)  

 I can think of only a couple of time when he was involved in an all-out fight with the X-Men. Most of the instances I remember involved large amounts of PIS. In their other encounters, he usually had some agenda other than fighting them. However, in his most recent "fight" with the X-Men, he shoved a bullet in Cyclops' brain so quickly that everyone still thinks Scott was shot by a sniper.   "

Quick silver should be given more time to prove himself since he should be a hard core villian similar to zoom  the feat of putting a bullet in cyclops head is impressive but compared to other speedsters there no way to tell if he can compete with flash some atleast on his level "

Can we come back to this now that Pietro has more feats?

I'm still going with Ultimate QS.

Can Bart steal speed? If not..I'm going with Pietro for sure.

Other than the turning the other speedster to ash and the bullet assasination?

Now there's the using a straw to kill someone, using an envelope to bring down Ben Grim and Sue Storm by inflicting over a million paper cuts in the span of a second or so. And continuing to peel the skin from Ben's body. Creating a sonic boom with the snap of his fingers.

But I think his greatest feat was running from Washington DC to Wundagore which is located in East Europe during a conversation and the person he was talking to didn't even realize he was gone. :/

And he's able to take off on the fly, by the way. Naturally when reaching certain speeds it may take momentum, but he took off from a sitdown position and passed several bullets that were already in the air ahead of him in that fight with Hurricane.

How come you all think the flashes are the same person???

Jay Garrick was possibly the slowest but he was the first.

Barry Allen (the Fastest Man Alive) the current and fastest second character to be known as the flash he creates the speed force when he moves

Wally West (Barry dated his aunt) the previous Flash the third character to go by Flash (second fastest I think) the original Kid Flash

Bart Allen(4th Flash) one of my top 20 characters ever, he has gone by so many names but he is the Second Kid Flash, He was awesome in Infinite Crisis

Bart can take em

Catches bullet after it was fired and KO gunmen at same time.

Moves to fast for the entire Ultimates team to notice in 2 separate battles.

Uses enough speed and momentum to take and Giant Mech apart by hand with no tools.

Runs to Europe and back to the white house, carries a machine 3 times his body weight the return trip, and does this faster than the human eye could follow.

Dodges Lightning.

QS disarms a whole military base and by passes its Laser Grid security faster than sound of his voice reaching Wanda.

Pushes a Bullet through Cyclopes brain faster than anyone could see.

Matches Blur who is fast enough to keep up with Hyperion.

Moves so fast that he destroys a Mach 10 Speedtser on the Molecule level!

Anyone can take it from there.

@pokergeist: That running to Europe and back feat is insane.

It means he was moving at about 16,810 KM/sec. Holy crap! That's freaking awesome.

Yeah, Ultimate Quicksilver is pretty sweet.

Bart can take him.

Definitely going with the Quicksilver, those feats are really good!

there was one feat that said he was moving faster than radio waves.....and radio waves are fast as the speed of light...generally i think QS is faster than light but not by much tho... maybe 5 or 7 times and thats it

@marlboroman: are those feats the only thing you know about quicksilver?

Bart ftw

QS stomps!

Bart

i think that was a scan of 616 quicksilver to be honest. but ultimate is faster than 616 clearly from that europe to dc trek alone

idk how fast new 52 bart is and idk if we will ever see him again