Takes place on a beach, on the California Coast, at midnight. NO prep. Current Hulk. Hulk thinks that Ult. Namor is the 616 Namor... Ult. Namor sees a pissed green giant, and wants to eliminate it! BATTLE!
Ultimate Namor vs. 616 Hulk
Umm, Ultimate Namor defeated pretty much ALL of the Ultimate Heroes, at the SAME TIME! He's a contender for Current Hulk. Look Ultimate Namor up, then educate yourself, then decide. Ultimate Namor is > 616 Namor. Ultimate Namor has UBER Hydrokinesis abilities, and seems to NOT dehydrate like 616 Namor does when blasted with longing & intence flames. ;) Lastly, Ultimate Namor may have actually been a Villain, one that the Atlantians had to "imprison"!
@DeathsHead2: Unlike you, it would appear I've actually done my homework and actually read all of Ultimate Namor's appearances. Nice try though.
@DeathsHead2 said:
Umm, Ultimate Namor defeated pretty much ALL of the Ultimate heroes, at the same time! He's a contender for Current Hulk. Look Ultimate Namor up, then educate yourself, then decide. Ultimate Namor is > 616 Namor. Ultimate namor has UBER Hydrokinesis abilities and seems to NOT dehydrate like 616 Namor does when blasted with continuos intence flames. ;) Lastly, Ultimate Namor may have actually been a Villain, one that the Atlantians had to "imprison"!
First of all, the only advantage that Ult. Namor has ever had over his 616 counterpart would be hydrokinesis, which will hardly be useful against 616 Hulk. Secondly, defeating "pretty much ALL" the Ultimate heroes isn't exactly something 616 Hulk couldn't do himself. A majority of the Ult. Heroes could've easily killed Namor at any point during his little temper tantrum, but they choose not too because they're heroes. I don't care if the Atlantians imprisoned him or worshipped him as a god, it's not a useful feat, therefore it shouldn't be passed off as one.
@DeathsHead2: Also, seeing as you're the thread's creator, it's not exactly wise of you too attempt to tell me who wins and loses. Anyone with a brain stem could see you're biased, but telling me too educate myself is rude and uncalled for, as well as childish and pretentious. Knock it off.
@DeathsHead2 said:
Umm, Ultimate Namor defeated pretty much ALL of the Ultimate Heroes, at the SAME TIME!
Ultimate versions of 616 heroes are just pale comparisons. They aren't equal or greater than the originals.
@Static Shock said:
@DeathsHead2 said:
Umm, Ultimate Namor defeated pretty much ALL of the Ultimate Heroes, at the SAME TIME!Ultimate versions of 616 heroes are just pale comparisons. They aren't equal or greater than the originals.
Eh, Ult. Cap>616 Cap, same can be argued for a few other characters, like Colossus and Hawkeye.
True, I'll be wanting Ultimate Namor to win. But, saying this version of Namor, by the Coast, with his Uber hydrokinesis powers, has NO chance at taking down Current Hulk is biased in and of itself. Ult. Namor is no clown, even IF he loses to Current Hulk, Hulk's NOT walking away unscathed... Also, Ult. Namor and Ult. Captain America are the 2 exceptions to that Ultimate's
@Illuminatus said:
Eh, Ult. Cap>616 Cap, same can be argued for a few other characters, like Colossus and Hawkeye.
I was speaking for the majority of the Ultimate Universe. I already know about Ultimate Cap and the other two.
Ah, okay. Cool.@Illuminatus said:
Eh, Ult. Cap>616 Cap, same can be argued for a few other characters, like Colossus and Hawkeye.
I was speaking for the majority of the Ultimate Universe. I already know about Ultimate Cap and the other two.
@DeathsHead2 said:
But, saying this version of Namor, by the Coast, with his Uber hydrokinesis powers, has NO chance at taking down Current Hulk is biased in and of itself.No, it's not actually. I really don't have a biased opinion as to who the victor is, but I have hesitations when suddenly agreeing with the notion that Ult. Namor is automatically stronger than 616 Hulk when Ult. Namor never even fought the Ult. version of the character.
Ult. Namor is no clown, even IF he loses to Current Hulk, Hulk's NOT walking away unscathed... Also, Ult. Namor and Ult. Captain America are the 2 exceptions to that Ultimate's < 616's rule. Their Feats speak the truth.You're forgetting Colossus, Hawkeye, and arguably Pietro.
Really? Ult. Quicksilver is >/= 616 Quicksilver?! Didn't know that. The other 2, Colossus & Hawkeye, figured they are close to the 616's as well, maybe "slightly" above their 616 counterparts. On topic, Ultimate Namor is a CONTENDER for the 616's Current Hulk. Never said this was a STOMP. Now, on the 616 Namor versus Ultimate Hulk, THAT is a STOMP in Namor's favor! ;)
Really? Ult. Quicksilver is >/= 616 Quicksilver?!Pre-616 Pietro's upgrade, it's possible. Ult. Pietro has done some things I haven't seen 616 Pietro ever do.
The other 2, Colossus & Hawkeye, figured they are close to the 616's as well, maybe "slightly" above their 616 counterparts.Ult. Hawkeye has enhanced eyesight and reflexes. He's basically 616 Hawkeye + Bullseye. Colossus was only taken down with a localized-nuke arrow shot by Hawkeye. He gave Ult. Thor a good beatdown too.
@Illuminatus: @DeathsHead2: Yeah, I'll throw my two cents in here when it comes to Ultimate Namor. I didn't find him all that great based on this one meeting with the fantastic four. I assume that's what we're talking about, right? He left once he kissed what's her face?
I actually believe Ultimate Colossus could wreck any version of Namor, but for the purposes of this thread I'm going to choose Hulk.
He left once he got a kiss from Sue.@Illuminatus: @DeathsHead2: Yeah, I'll throw my two cents in here when it comes to Ultimate Namor. I didn't find him all that great based on this one meeting with the fantastic four. I assume that's what we're talking about, right? He left once he kissed what's her face?
I actually believe Ultimate Colossus could wreck any version of Namor, but for the purposes of this thread I'm going to choose Hulk.
@Rickbarry: Eh, Ult. Namor just doesn't have the feats, outside of hydrokinesis.He took a Nova blast from human torch and it did nothing, thats pretty good
He's as strong as the Hulk before berserk, can fly, is really fast, has an ocean here to regenerate him and increase his strength and speed far beyond Hulk, and he has terrible writers and publicity so never gets the credit he deserves.
@Murder_2120 said:
He's as strong as the Hulk before berserk, can fly, is really fast, has an ocean here to regenerate him and increase his strength and speed far beyond Hulk, and he has terrible writers and publicity so never gets the credit he deserves.
Ultimate Namor isn't as strong as 616 Hulk, though.
@Static Shock said:
@Murder_2120 said:
He's as strong as the Hulk before berserk, can fly, is really fast, has an ocean here to regenerate him and increase his strength and speed far beyond Hulk, and he has terrible writers and publicity so never gets the credit he deserves.
Ultimate Namor isn't as strong as 616 Hulk, though.
Underwater he's close enough.
@Murder_2120:
@Static Shock said:
@Murder_2120 said:
He's as strong as the Hulk before berserk, can fly, is really fast, has an ocean here to regenerate him and increase his strength and speed far beyond Hulk, and he has terrible writers and publicity so never gets the credit he deserves.
Ultimate Namor isn't as strong as 616 Hulk, though.
Underwater he's close enough.
Say what now?
That's World Breaker Hulk, not this version. Anyone can write a short series and completely go against everything we know. One day someone is going to make a series that makes Cyclops the most powerful being in the universe and then everyone will say, "Cyclops is the baddest nothing can stop him !1!". Writers always do that thinking it's going to give them huge sales.
@Murder_2120 said:
That's World Breaker Hulk, not this version. Anyone can write a short series and completely go against everything we know. One day someone is going to make a series that makes Cyclops the most powerful being in the universe and then everyone will say, "Cyclops is the baddest nothing can stop him !1!". Writers always do that thinking it's going to give them huge sales.
Well Cyclops does have an entire universe worth of energy at his disposal. Trololo.
That's World Breaker Hulk, not this version. Anyone can write a short series and completely go against everything we know. One day someone is going to make a series that makes Cyclops the most powerful being in the universe and then everyone will say, "Cyclops is the baddest nothing can stop him !1!". Writers always do that thinking it's going to give them huge sales.
Hulk breaks him. Getting kinda tired of people thinking any version of Namor is a match for Hulk.
Totally understand that opinion. But Ultimate Namor has powers that totally go off the scales including his strength which is highest in Marvel Universe. Also current Hulk not at his best. If it was WWH I would go Green but here the Black Adam lookalike takes it.
@Illuminatus said:There are no feats that suggest he is the strongest character within the Ult. Marvel universe. Not one single feat.Totally understand that opinion. But Ultimate Namor has powers that totally go off the scales including his strength which is highest in Marvel Universe. Also current Hulk not at his best. If it was WWH I would go Green but here the Black Adam lookalike takes it.
Hulk breaks him. Getting kinda tired of people thinking any version of Namor is a match for Hulk.
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