Ultimate Doom has reached the earth 616, has joined forces with 616 Doom and they plan to pit the heroes against each other. All have standard gear.
Ult. Spidey VS 616 Spidey
Ult. Captain America VS 616 Cap(Steve)
Ult. Haweye VS 616 Hawkeye(Clint)
Ult. Iron Man VS 616 Iron Man(pre Extremis)
Ult. Wolverine VS 616 Wolverine
Ult. Hulk VS Joe Fixit
Ult. Nick Fury VS 616 Nick Fury
Ultimate Marvel VS Marvel 616
Ult. Spidey VS 616 Spidey= 616 Spidey
Ult. Captain America VS 616 Cap(Steve)= Ult. Captain America
Ult. Haweye VS 616 Hawkeye(Clint)= Ult Hawkeye
Ult. Iron Man VS 616 Iron Man(pre Extremis) = Could go either way but leaning on 616 Iron Man
Ult. Wolverine VS 616 Wolverine = 616 Wolverine
Ult. Hulk VS Joe Fixit = Ultimate Hulk
Ult. Nick Fury VS 616 Nick Fury = 616 Nick Fury has my vote on this (though it can go either way)
616 wins by a slim margin
Ult. Spidey VS 616 Spidey
Ult. Captain America VS 616 Cap(Steve) - 616 wins in a Comic logic fight, with real logic Ultimate.
Ult. Haweye VS 616 Hawkeye(Clint)
Ult. Iron Man VS 616 Iron Man(pre Extremis)
Ult. Wolverine VS 616 Wolverine
Ult. Hulk VS Joe Fixit
Ult. Nick Fury VS 616 Nick Fury
Ult. Spidey VS 616 Spidey
Ult. Captain America VS 616 Cap(Steve)
Ult. Haweye VS 616 Hawkeye(Clint)
Ult. Iron Man VS 616 Iron Man(pre Extremis)
Ult. Wolverine VS 616 Wolverine
Ult. Hulk VS Joe Fixit
Ult. Nick Fury VS 616 Nick Fury
I think the Ult. can take it.
Ult. Spidey VS 616 Spidey
Ult. Captain America VS 616 Cap(Steve) -I like 616 better I just think Ult will fight dirty
Ult. Haweye VS 616 Hawkeye(Clint)
Ult. Iron Man VS 616 Iron Man(pre Extremis)
Ult. Wolverine VS 616 Wolverine
Ult. Hulk VS Joe Fixit
Ult. Nick Fury VS 616 Nick Fury
1. 616
2. Ult
3. Ult
4 616
5 616
6 Ult
7 Does it make me racist if I pick 616?
@PowerHerc said:
" Ultimate Hulk wins his fight. 616 sweeps the rest. "
Ult Hawkeye and Ult Cap win their fights.
@erik said:
" @Decoy Elite: I agree with you on the Captain America fight but Ultimate Hawkeye has not done anything that I doubt 616 could replicate or improve on. Oh and racist! "
The tagging ghost rider while GH was on a plane that was IIRC a few miles away.
Also he uses guns with the same amount of skill as 616 does with arrows, so he has a firing rate advantage.
@erik said:The tagging ghost rider while GH was on a plane that was IIRC a few miles away. Also he uses guns with the same amount of skill as 616 does with arrows, so he has a firing rate advantage. "" @Decoy Elite: I agree with you on the Captain America fight but Ultimate Hawkeye has not done anything that I doubt 616 could replicate or improve on. Oh and racist! "
Assuming 616 gets the same weapon used to hit GR, I do not doubt he could also make the shot. 616 is not limited to bows and arrows, he is just as proficient with any projectile weapon. But I did forget that Ultimate prefers the guns now so I will give you the firing rate point.
" @Decoy Elite said:Not to mention Ult is just as accurate. While he does have less feats, what feats he does have are quite good. I'd say he's at least on par with his 616 counterpart when it comes to accuracy. Add in his better weaponry and he should be able to take down 616 Hawkeye in a tough fight.@erik said:Assuming 616 gets the same weapon used to hit GR, I do not doubt he could also make the shot. 616 is not limited to bows and arrows, he is just as proficient with any projectile weapon. But I did forget that Ultimate prefers the guns now so I will give you the firing rate point. "The tagging ghost rider while GH was on a plane that was IIRC a few miles away. Also he uses guns with the same amount of skill as 616 does with arrows, so he has a firing rate advantage. "" @Decoy Elite: I agree with you on the Captain America fight but Ultimate Hawkeye has not done anything that I doubt 616 could replicate or improve on. Oh and racist! "
yup yup
all the 616 heroes are more powerful more experienced and more skilled
ultimates are just pale gritty "realistic" reflections
edit:never mind i forgot it was joe fixit aginst ultimate
" @The Dark Huntress: yup yup all the 616 heroes are more powerful more experienced and more skilled ultimates are just pale gritty "realistic" reflections edit:never mind i forgot it was joe fixit aginst ultimate "Ult Cap is stronger than normal Cap and just as skilled. :/
Ult Hawkeye is just as accurate as normal Hawkeye, except he uses freakin' guns.
" @Avenging-X-Bolt said:False." @The Dark Huntress: yup yup all the 616 heroes are more powerful more experienced and more skilled ultimates are just pale gritty "realistic" reflections edit:never mind i forgot it was joe fixit aginst ultimate "Ult Cap is stronger than normal Cap and just as skilled. :/ Ult Hawkeye is just as accurate as normal Hawkeye, except he uses freakin' guns. "
" @erik said:" @Decoy Elite said:Not to mention Ult is just as accurate. While he does have less feats, what feats he does have are quite good. I'd say he's at least on par with his 616 counterpart when it comes to accuracy. Add in his better weaponry and he should be able to take down 616 Hawkeye in a tough fight. "@erik said:Assuming 616 gets the same weapon used to hit GR, I do not doubt he could also make the shot. 616 is not limited to bows and arrows, he is just as proficient with any projectile weapon. But I did forget that Ultimate prefers the guns now so I will give you the firing rate point. "The tagging ghost rider while GH was on a plane that was IIRC a few miles away. Also he uses guns with the same amount of skill as 616 does with arrows, so he has a firing rate advantage. "" @Decoy Elite: I agree with you on the Captain America fight but Ultimate Hawkeye has not done anything that I doubt 616 could replicate or improve on. Oh and racist! "
Yeah. I can get behind that. It seems about right.
" @Decoy Elite: how is he stronger? i kinda agree on the hawkeye but 616 clint it still more skilled "He has better physical feats IIRC.
Ult Hawkeye has feats on par with 616 Clint. (such as the fingernail feat)
somehow i knew someone was going to post that scan........ ill give it to you but ill keep my personal belief that 616 clint would wipe the floor with him
@Decoy Elite:
okay ill give you the strength feat simply because i dont have any proof on the contrary and am too lazy to go find some but i seriously doubt hes as experienced as 616 cap
they both had all of ww2 and ult caps been unfrozen for what 2-3 years tops in comic time
and 616 cap has been unfrozen for at least ten years
" @Donnieman v5.1: somehow i knew someone was going to post that scan........ ill give it to you but ill keep my personal belief that 616 clint would wipe the floor with him @Decoy Elite: okay ill give you the strength feat simply because i dont have any proof on the contrary and am too lazy to go find some but i seriously doubt hes as experienced as 616 cap they both had all of ww2 and ult caps been unfrozen for what 2-3 years tops in comic time and 616 cap has been unfrozen for at least ten years "Ultimate Captain America has perfect memory and is constantly training. It never says the extent of his knowledge in combat but he is referred to as the absolute best in all around combat. Not to mention his stats are well above 616 Rogers.
if you say so, im still not convinced
can you post these stats and proof of his perfect memory
" @erik: ait you're not getting this from the handbook are you.......... "I have his handbook scan, I just could not be bothered to look it up when I still have his issues pretty fresh in my head. But since your post implies that I should, I will pull it up. I question the accuracy of the actual stats though because Ultimate Black Widow's stats were listed as higher.
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