Ultimate Marvel v.s Black Lantern Corps
Yeah, I have to agree with King Saturn here...
But just to round out the argument, who are some major factors for each side? I'm thinking Ult. Namor, Thor, and Colossus are pretty high up for Marvel...but could they stand against a BL Martian Manhunter (I think starting there is a big enough task maybe...) ?
"Yeah, I have to agree with King Saturn here... But just to round out the argument, who are some major factors for each side? I'm thinking Ult. Namor, Thor, and Colossus are pretty high up for Marvel...but could they stand against a BL Martian Manhunter (I think starting there is a big enough task maybe...) ? "
Namor, Thor, and Colossus?
How about Silver Surfer, Jean Grey, Magician, Magneto, Thanos, ect.
I don't see the BL corps being able to defeat an entire dimension.
Every single black lantern v.s every character in the Ultimate universe, neither side had time to prepare. the fight is on the moon. don't ask why it's on the moon
To be honest, I don't know all that much about what Black Lanterns are capable of. But I'm sure that the people I listed, along with all the other cosmic-level powerhouses in the Ultimate U would be an extremely serious threat.
BTW, is Gah Lak Tus (Ultimate Galactus) and actual living entity? He could be a major threat too.
" @whacknasty said:Ultimate Colossus is stronger than ultimate Silver surfer, namor is too"Yeah, I have to agree with King Saturn here... But just to round out the argument, who are some major factors for each side? I'm thinking Ult. Namor, Thor, and Colossus are pretty high up for Marvel...but could they stand against a BL Martian Manhunter (I think starting there is a big enough task maybe...) ? "Namor, Thor, and Colossus? How about Silver Surfer, Jean Grey, Magician, Magneto, Thanos, ect. I don't see the BL corps being able to defeat an entire dimension. "
" @Power NeXus said:" @whacknasty said:Ultimate Colossus is stronger than ultimate Silver surfer, namor is too ""Yeah, I have to agree with King Saturn here... But just to round out the argument, who are some major factors for each side? I'm thinking Ult. Namor, Thor, and Colossus are pretty high up for Marvel...but could they stand against a BL Martian Manhunter (I think starting there is a big enough task maybe...) ? "Namor, Thor, and Colossus? How about Silver Surfer, Jean Grey, Magician, Magneto, Thanos, ect. I don't see the BL corps being able to defeat an entire dimension. "
Care to tell from what source you got these 'facts'?
" @"Colossus" said:He doesn't have any. Colossus is listed as being class 6 in strength by the Ultimate X-Men/Ultimates Handbook, the Silver Searcher (the Surfer's title in Earth 1610) is ranked as being class 7. SS also appeared in a single arc. It's nigh impossible to determine his strength level, and compare it to Colossus to gauge who is stronger. His only strength feat is that he easily broke through a restrainment designed to contain the ultimate version of the Hulk." @Power NeXus said:Care to tell from what source you got these 'facts'? "" @whacknasty said:Ultimate Colossus is stronger than ultimate Silver surfer, namor is too ""Yeah, I have to agree with King Saturn here... But just to round out the argument, who are some major factors for each side? I'm thinking Ult. Namor, Thor, and Colossus are pretty high up for Marvel...but could they stand against a BL Martian Manhunter (I think starting there is a big enough task maybe...) ? "Namor, Thor, and Colossus? How about Silver Surfer, Jean Grey, Magician, Magneto, Thanos, ect. I don't see the BL corps being able to defeat an entire dimension. "
@Power NeXus:
I was just trying to stick to those i had read about. I'm sure Silver Surfer/Galactus of the Ultimate U. are pretty powerful as well.
Can the BL use light constructs only? Or just thier own powers before they were resurrected? Or a combo of both?
"they can use both but they like to use their powers more
@Power NeXus: I was just trying to stick to those i had read about. I'm sure Silver Surfer/Galactus of the Ultimate U. are pretty powerful as well. Can the BL use light constructs only? Or just thier own powers before they were resurrected? Or a combo of both? "
i don't think anyone can defeat the black lantern in ultimate universe because th bl's can ony be beat by other lanterns
There are Ultimate Marvel characters who can defeat Black Lanterns. That said, the corps will destroy them in the end.
" is LT on the Marvel side? "He can't be.
But UM easily. Abstracts ftw. It existing in Marvel prime multiverse, so they have their own Abstracts.
" @WhiteAngel said:I doubt the abstracts would care about one miniscule universe out of the whole megaverse." is LT on the Marvel side? "He can't be. But UM easily. Abstracts ftw. It existing in Marvel prime multiverse, so they have their own Abstracts. "
" @czarny_samael said:Each other universe has their own Abstracts. All Eternities from all universes are Multi-Eternity." @WhiteAngel said:I doubt the abstracts would care about one miniscule universe out of the whole megaverse. "" is LT on the Marvel side? "He can't be. But UM easily. Abstracts ftw. It existing in Marvel prime multiverse, so they have their own Abstracts. "
To win with UM, BL have to defeat not only guys like Thor, X-Men or FF, but also Eternity, Infinity, Oblivion, Death, Lord Chaos, Master Order, In-Betweener, Misteress Love, Master Hate, Seven Friendless, Eon and Epoch from that universe. Each other Marvel Universe were also created by Phoenix Force (that is why each other has their Phoenix which is a part of all PF) and Proemial Gods (who had their part in creation too).
Some about 20 Proemial Gods and 18 Abstracts are way too much for BL.
" That being said, no one ever encountered any abstracts in Ultimate Marvel, nor is there any indication that the abstracts would care on what transpires in the universe in the first place. "But to win this battle they need to defeat all people in UM. And we know (thanks to LT) that Abstracts exists in all universes in that multiverse, so they exist even they weren't shown.
" @Morpheus_ said:The OP said "every character in the Ultimate Universe", presumably, every character who has made an appearance in the Ultimate Universe, not every character we assume exists in Earth 1610. Simply because we know abstracts should (logically) exist, I don't think they are included, nor I think they would care, as far as the integrity of the universe itself is not endangered." That being said, no one ever encountered any abstracts in Ultimate Marvel, nor is there any indication that the abstracts would care on what transpires in the universe in the first place. "But to win this battle they need to defeat all people in UM. And we know (thanks to LT) that Abstracts exists in all universes in that multiverse, so they exist even they weren't shown. "
Black Lantern Corps Wins. Namor, Thor, Colossus, Silver Searcher, Hulk, and Magneto play huge Factors. As for the Debate of Colossus he beat Ultimate Thor. So that's a Feat he Also Lifted a Russian Sub and was able to fight through magnetos control. He is Much Stronger then his 616 Counterpart.
Nekron Wins. Fatality.
Who is fighting on UM side? All people who lives there or just people who were showed in comics?
an entire universe full of heroes, villains, and other powered beings is more than enough to take down the Black Lantern Corp
" an entire universe full of heroes, villains, and other powered beings is more than enough to take down the Black Lantern Corp "The DCU is an entire universe full of heroes, villains, and other powerful beings, and they almost got taken out. I can't see how the UM universe can win, especially after the BLC start resurrecting and recruiting the dead.
" @Crimson Thunder : Who is fighting on UM side? All people who lives there or just people who were showed in comics? "
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