#1 Posted by Floopay (7700 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules:

1. Win via Incapcitation, BFR, Death, or KO

2. Follow the rules of each round

3. Provide scans or reasonings if you can.

Battlefield: Assume it is dusk. This should play to both character's strengths. Plenty of hiding places, cover, and places to set traps.

vs.

Round 1: Limited Equipment

1. Batman has standard equipment and suit

2. Hawkeye gets 10 arrows, 5 throwing knives, and 1 grenade

3. Morals On

4. Start within sight, 25 meters apart

Round 2: The Hunt

1. Both start at opposites ends of the docks, and pick their own hiding place

2. Batman has standard equipment (he can have night goggles as well)

3. Hawkeye has standard equipment

4. Both have knowledge of each other, and are tracking each other

5. Morals On

Round 3: The game is on

1. Both have 30 minutes to grab prep equipment (mines, extra devices, etc.). Can only use equipment from comics, no insider suit, nothing more devastating than a frag mine.

2. Both have 1 hour to prep

3. Both start at opposite ends of the dock, and pick their own hiding places

4. Both in standard equipment (Batman gets goggles)

5. Both have knowledge of each other, and are tracking each other

6. Morals Off

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#2 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3514 posts) - - Show Bio

All rounds to Batman, altough they are all very close. Round 1 is the round Batman might lose on.

#3 Posted by Bo88gdan (4374 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye all Rounds 

#4 Posted by DarkScarecrow (352 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman all rounds.

#5 Posted by Floopay (7700 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, we have no inbetweens here do we!? All or none from person to person. :P

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#6 Posted by Typhion (622 posts) - - Show Bio

Very good battle. Round 1, I'll go Hawkeye pretty decisively. Round 2..Bats but close. Round 3, Bats hits Hawkeye before Hawkeye can notch an arrow.

#7 Posted by Floopay (7700 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread could use a few more posts.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#8 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (19489 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman wins all except Round 1.

Batman really stomps on Round 3 though...

#9 Edited by Pokergeist (22329 posts) - - Show Bio

Round One I think Batman can still Win. Hawk Eye has nothing where Bats Standard Equipment is what? Hand Nukes? I seen Stupid Scans of that crap. If Bats has say 10 Batarangs and Grapple Hook then yeah Ult Hawk Eye everyday. 
 
Round 2 is way to much in Bats Favore. Whats Standard Equip for Hawkeye? He has Nuke Arrows for gods sake as well carries M-16s and .45 Hand Guns. With the M-16s and Nuke Arrows is the only way I see him wiining that one. 
 
Round 3..... Bats with whatever he Needs... Hawk with whatever he needs... Hawk Has Nuclear Warhead Arrows that he used on Ultimate Colossus for gods sake. Batman has had Hand Nuke Bombs. Double KO.
#10 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

#11 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (10238 posts) - - Show Bio

this without the explosion .......

#12 Posted by Pokergeist (22329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ancient_0f_Days said:


                   

this without the explosion .......



                   

               

Round 3 is more like

this with the Explosion
#13 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (10238 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: or ..... batman has this .... and flys in on his batjet and drops it .....

#14 Posted by Pokergeist (22329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ancient_0f_Days
LOL there it is.....
#15 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (10238 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: LOL there it is.....

#16 Posted by ThatThorFan (951 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye first two rounds and Batman 3rd. He has prep!

#17 Posted by nickzambuto (11434 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

All rounds to Batman, altough they are all very close. Round 1 is the round Batman might lose on.

I don't think I've EVER seen you go against Batman. HMM....

Anyway, people are saying round 1 will be the hardest for him, but I disagree. Hawkeye can have all the accuracy in the world, Batman is more than fast enough to snatch them out of the air, let alone dodge them, and with no trick arrows I don't see what Clint can do. IMO he takes all rounds.

#18 Posted by Lady_Liberty (7654 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye has a chance in round one, but over all I think Batman would take the majority by 6/10.

Rounds two and three are Bruce all the way though.

#19 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3514 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto Haha I love Batman, but I know his limits.

#20 Posted by Floopay (7700 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days: Heh, to be fair that thing was taken from the Joker and Batman never replicated it :P

A lot of people seem to be going with Batman rounds 2 and 3. I think they may be underestimating Hawkeye's accuracy, and his ability to track his opponents. He is an enhanced human after all (above peak levels, and his accuracy is near flawless). I think this is an even line up in all 3 rounds, each one playing to both character's strengths and weaknesses.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#21 Posted by Esquire (3742 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Hawkeye has a better chance in round 2 than round 1. Bats gets night vision goggles, but other than that he has nothing more than in round one, whereas Hawkeye gets to have guns and trick arrows. I think Bats will still take the majority, but Hawkeye's enhanced eyesight and uncanny accuracy should let him find and shoot Bruce at least a few times. So round 1 to Bats 9/10, Round 2 6 or 7/10, and round 3 should be 10/10.

#22 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (10238 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Heh, to be fair that thing was taken from the Joker and Batman never replicated it :P

A lot of people seem to be going with Batman rounds 2 and 3. I think they may be underestimating Hawkeye's accuracy, and his ability to track his opponents. He is an enhanced human after all (above peak levels, and his accuracy is near flawless). I think this is an even line up in all 3 rounds, each one playing to both character's strengths and weaknesses.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

No one is really underestimating Clint ..... its just that Bruce has alot of showings against people with arrows ..... like green arrow ... and there was that time he was chillin in the park reading the news paper as just Bruce .... when green arrows enemy Merlin tried to shoot him with an arrow from behind ..... Merlin has skill quite comparable to Oliver ..... Bruce caught the arrow ........ tossed it back without even looking in his direction ..... and broke Merlin's bow .... thats kinda why they dont think Clint has a chance .....

#23 Posted by Pokergeist (22329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ancient_0f_Days said:


                   

@Floopay said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Heh, to be fair that thing was taken from the Joker and Batman never replicated it :P

A lot of people seem to be going with Batman rounds 2 and 3. I think they may be underestimating Hawkeye's accuracy, and his ability to track his opponents. He is an enhanced human after all (above peak levels, and his accuracy is near flawless). I think this is an even line up in all 3 rounds, each one playing to both character's strengths and weaknesses.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

No one is really underestimating Clint ..... its just that Bruce has alot of showings against people with arrows ..... like green arrow ... and there was that time he was chillin in the park reading the news paper as just Bruce .... when green arrows enemy Merlin tried to shoot him with an arrow from behind ..... Merlin has skill quite comparable to Oliver ..... Bruce caught the arrow ........ tossed it back without even looking in his direction ..... and broke Merlin's bow .... thats kinda why they dont think Clint has a chance .....



                   

               

Agreed Floopay you need to be specific here than vague Standard Equipment. Hawkeye can win Round 2 with Guns. He regulary uses Assualt Riffle (Dual Weilded) and Dual Hand Cannons with the same Accuracy as his Bow. Batman is not dodging that.  
 

Ultimatate Hawkeye is SUPERIOR to 616 Hawkeye and Bullseye. His Fingernails kills people. He owns within seconds with Guns. Thats the Hawkeye that can win round 2.
#24 Posted by ShootingNova (13107 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: Nice.

#25 Posted by Floopay (7700 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ancient_0f_Days: That is true, but I've heard catching explosive arrows can be dangerous to one's health! :P

I think he has a good chance to win via stealth, the reason I created the conditions I did, is because with his trick arrows. I think these are what will even out the rounds, he's not just shooting regular arrows, and in his standard equipment, Ultimate Hawkeye also has used rifles, pistols, and in general is an expert with firearms. These have been in his standard gear as well, it is not out of place for him to use them. Plus they have knowledge of each other, so that should also help even out the battles.

However, you do have a fair point. Hawkeye from the Ultimate comic verse does have some very impressive feats, there's no denying that. He has done things in that Universe that put his 616 counterpart to shame, and he is clearly a top tier street leveler in that Universe. However, regardless of how many feats he has, Batman still has more, and I know that's your point and I do understand it. Batman has always proven to be one of the best street levelers, and has always proven that he can contend with any good hero. That being said, I think the feats Hawkeye does have in the Ultimateverse (both hand to hand, and marksman feats) put him on a level that can, at the very least, contend with Batman.

As this is a battle thread I created, I do not wish to voice myself as an advocate for either side. When posting one opinion on one character's strengths, I am also trying to post one for the other character. I will continue to remain neutral, and I do think you make some very valid points.

That being said, i would like to see a little more debate in this thread! :D

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#26 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

why do batman got everything and hawkeye got only some of his things

#27 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

hawkeye all. seriously the guy can kill with fingernails. no amount of prep can prepare you for fingernails coming at you. youll be like 'what is he trowing? are those fingernails coming at me....' ops im dead.

#28 Posted by nickzambuto (11434 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

@nickzambuto Haha I love Batman, but I know his limits.

You said he could beat Hulk with sleep gas

#29 Posted by Saren (24346 posts) - - Show Bio

@KainScion said:

. no amount of prep can prepare you for fingernails coming at you

I do hope this comment was not intended to be taken seriously, because literally anyone with prep can handle fingernails coming at them.

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#30 Posted by TDK_1997 (13711 posts) - - Show Bio

All rounds to Batman.

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#31 Posted by sagejonathan (1645 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman all rounds

#32 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan said:

Hawkeye all Rounds

THIS, Ignore any other comment unless it raise a new possibility that nobody noticed before.

#33 Posted by Flash1777 (58 posts) - - Show Bio

hawkeyes enhanced human now....

i agree that hawkeye wins the first round.

the second round im not to sure because im not what he has as standard equipment but it should be interesting

the final round definitely goes to batman because he has prep and half an hour give batman more than enough time to figure out what hawkeyes going to do.

#34 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (27401 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye wins the first and maybe the second

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#35 Posted by Pokergeist (22329 posts) - - Show Bio
@spiderbat87 said:


                    Hawkeye wins the first and maybe the second

                   

               

Thats waht Im leanening on afetr posting my own Scans now...
#36 Posted by AngelicPhoenix (120 posts) - - Show Bio

I think batman would assume hawk is like green arrow which would be a big mistake on bats part. the hawk is a nut bar lol. great match.

#37 Posted by RisingBean (2862 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman wins only if he takes out Clint before Clint sees him and strikes so hard Clint can't come back from his assault. Batman is limited by his morals, and without plot protection, Bruce can't survive an attack from the Ultimate Hawkeye. If I was putting money on it, Hawkeye takes round 1, Batman gets 2 if he KO's Clint in one swoop and 3 is 50/50 odds in my book. We all know Batman is a prep god, but Hawkeye can rig boobytraps too. Without plot protection it's possible to flow either way.

#38 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (4671 posts) - - Show Bio
@ImTheDamnBatman
@nickzambuto Haha I love Batman, but I know his limits.
You seem to be the only one lol.
Hawkeye round 1.
Bats rounds 2&3.
#39 Posted by Fetts (4083 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultimate Hawkeye wins Round 1. Batman wins Rounds 2 and 3.

#40 Posted by Floopay (7700 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@KainScion said:

. no amount of prep can prepare you for fingernails coming at you

I do hope this comment was not intended to be taken seriously, because literally anyone with prep can handle fingernails coming at them.

Nice, I laughed pretty hard at that rebuttal.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#41 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3514 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto Okay, that was just a shot in the dark. I don't read much Hulk, is he resistant to nitrous oxide and other calming gases?

#42 Posted by Floopay (7700 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman: Yes, Hulk is as much a walking PIS machine as Batman with prep and Radon bullets!

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#43 Posted by Kinasin_ (1141 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkScarecrow said:

Batman all rounds.
#44 Posted by karetaker (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

with prep and no morals HE fires 15 mini nukes at the same time from a super bow destroying everything ....except himself...!!!!!

#45 Posted by alozie2k (8 posts) - - Show Bio

ultimate hawkeye round one round two batman barely and round 3 batman

#46 Posted by jashro44 (16462 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman all rounds all though round one is seriously difficult.