@floopay: Do Ultimate Wolverine, Black Panther, or the Super Soldiers that Ultimate Captain America fought have any documented martial training? Or better yet have they accomplished anything martially comparable to Batman mastering 127 martial arts, knowing every pressure point on the human body, knowing obscure one shot kill techniques like the Vibrating Palm and Leopard Blow, mastered other special martial techniques like the Falling Leaf/Steel Mountain Push/The Phoenix Eye Fist, can put down class 100's with pressure point attacks, stopping breathing via pressure points, disabling a human arm and subsequently restarting it via pressure points, has reversed said techniques so precisely that they can't be differentiated from the original, etc. Like I said, Ultimate Captain America and the people he has bested know how to fight, but you're not really going to bring anything from a technical standpoint that is remotely comparable to most of the stuff that I mentioned. Ultimate Captain America not knowing remotely as many martial arts as Batman is a big strike against him when trying to compare him to Batman martially. Comic book writers don't understand things like that knowing one style can be just as good as knowing 100. Quantity is everything in regards to your competence martially in comics. That's why when writers try establish someone as a top tier martial artist they usually do so through explaining the ludicrous amount of martial arts that they know.
Ultimate Cap is not really comparable to Batman in a martial sense.
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