• Both have knowledge.
• Kizaru can be hit.
• No Soul Crush.
• No Regeneration.
• Location: Konoha.
Win by Death.
Who takes it and why?
Ulquiorra vs Kizaru.
@deathhero61 said:
@themagicstik said:
Common misconception about Kizaru is that he's light speed. Kizaru has light speed teleportation and he's extremely fast at least as fast as post time skip Luffy but not light speed. There is no way he can escape a Lanza Del Relampago without his intagibility.
@nyas This. If kizaru could truly kick enemies at the speed of light they would be traveling at escape velocity due to the force of the kick. Hell if they somehow avoid not being blown to bits by the kick itself. Kizaru moving at the speed of light is not credible. thats only in travel speeds. In combat speeds he moves at hypersonic speeds(he seems to be way faster than luffy in terms of combat speed.)
Man, I got my fair share of logia being actual elements or not sh*tstorms, so gonna stay out of this. :D
@dbvse7 said:
-Sigh- sometimes I don't like Oda ( -_-) he really needs to give these DFs a boost or make them close to accurate..
why?
@nyas said:
@deathhero61 said:
@themagicstik said:
Common misconception about Kizaru is that he's light speed. Kizaru has light speed teleportation and he's extremely fast at least as fast as post time skip Luffy but not light speed. There is no way he can escape a Lanza Del Relampago without his intagibility.
@nyas This. If kizaru could truly kick enemies at the speed of light they would be traveling at escape velocity due to the force of the kick. Hell if they somehow avoid not being blown to bits by the kick itself. Kizaru moving at the speed of light is not credible. thats only in travel speeds. In combat speeds he moves at hypersonic speeds(he seems to be way faster than luffy in terms of combat speed.)
Man, I got my fair share of logia being actual elements or not sh*tstorms, so gonna stay out of this. :D
:D
honestly the only time i would give kizaru light speed movement (and even that is debatable) is during his yata no kagami and that is one of the most useless techniques, because he has to build a path at much slower speed before he can use it..... even the instance where he blitzed Drake with his soru looked way faster than his crappy YnK
@anime2114 said:
@princearagorn1: That would be like saying Goku is slow and weak because he didnt punch Vegeta into the moon. You have to take the other persons durability into account.
considering vegeta can fly, and stop mid-flight, that's not much of an argument lol.
Mad monk was caught completely off-guard by the kick.
@baltoro said:
Lot of Bleach fans are trying to lowball Kizaru here. He has on-panel evidence of using light speed attacks and lasers. Ulquiorra lost to a big, dumb AND slower version of Ichigo. It's kind of obvious Kizaru is light speed, but the author went ahead and stated this on-panel.
@marshall_long said:
@baltoro: Lol how's that Ichigo slow and dumb? He outpaced Ulquiorra in R2 form so he's faster than his normal Bankai self and much much stronger.
Ishida could keep up with him just fine. Kizaru would tag these guys with light speed kicks before they even realized they were in a fight.
Don't mind me.
@baltoro said:
...but he cannot pull off a kick before two people peak human in speed could launch their attacks. Ishida is a lot faster than both of them put together.
Completely ignoring the context doesn't work. Surprise!
I'm noticing a bias against One Piece here from you.
Your observation skill is appalling as usual. fail. I could show a comment by me in this very week that says one piece is better than the other two members of HST..
If Kizaru had a different character design, like a demon, I'm sure you would be supporting him
since Kizaru wins in every category of combat here.
Except for combat speed, durability, offensive output.. that's quite a list of imaginary categories of combat you seem to have lol.
I mean you seem to think Dark Schneider could solo anything on these battle threads without the evidence to back it just because he has some cool looking tribal tattoos.
See? Memory fail (I didn't say that literally anywhere), observation fail (I posted proof for every single thing I said in that topic), reading fail (well, you failed to read the OP of at least two topics back then, and failed to read the posted proof, too. Funnily enough, you failed to read the scan you posted yourself back then), topic title reading fail (this very topic is ulquiorra vs kizaru, dark schneider isn't anywhere in it.), and now you're confusing me with yourself. You're the only person here who judges things based on 'helmets!' 'legends!' and 'tattoos!' 'mindless!' 'demon!'.
Use some logic here, one guy is light speed (Kizaru),
Light speed.. that hits at less than mach 40. Sounds about right. Oh wait.
And really? -you- are going to use logic? lol. But that's not a bad thing, all the best for your first time using it.
the other guy (Ulquiorra) got humiliated by a mindless brawler...
See? you labeled one of the fighters as 'mindless brawler' and used it as a reason. Literally in the same post. That is you. Here's the part of your post if you have forgotten it:
I mean you seem to think Dark Schneider could solo anything on these battle threads without the evidence to back it just because he has some cool looking tribal tattoos
or this:
If Kizaru had a different character design, like a demon, I'm sure you would be supporting him
See, that's what you do, not me.
Newsflash: Fights don't work that way. What matters is how strong the character was. 'tattoos' and 'demon character design' and 'mindless brawler' have literally nothing to do with combat capabilities. I didn't think I'd actually meet someone who needed to have that explained.
Kizaru just has to land one light kick and Ulquiorra will be in orbit.
Yes, because he has kicked so many people in orbit before. Oh wait.
... All you did was post one scan, took it all out of context, and rambled on irrelevant topics, and were wrong on almost all the counts as usual. Seriously. Waste of times for both sides.. and all those who read it. Don't even bother replying to this dude, I don't know if you try specifically to be wrong, but on every thread I've seen you, you post complete nonsense and then deny purposeful trolling. I have no interest in continuing the discussion with you.
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