two alpha predators vs luke skywalker and 2 rebel soliders

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#1  Edited By jesse1040

I am new so if i did something wrong let me know
Battle on hoth Luke doesn't know anything about the predators and the predators only have basic hunting equipment

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#2  Edited By NickA

One Alpha Predator can solo
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#3  Edited By lagoon_boy
@NickA:  Um no....Luke via force choke FTW
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#4  Edited By ssejllenrad

Movie Luke or EU Luke? A lot of difference here...

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#5  Edited By NickA
@lagoon_boy:
Do you have any idea what a Alpha Predator is capable of 
 
Predator one shots Luke
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#6  Edited By lagoon_boy
@NickA:  Do you? I don't think Alpha's really exist since they were never shown in the movies and comics
 
How can it one shot luke when it can't block Force chokes.
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#7  Edited By ssejllenrad
@NickA said:
" @lagoon_boy: Do you have any idea what a Alpha Predator is capable of  Predator one shots Luke "

Not if it's EU Grand Master Luke. Movie Luke get's hunted like a deer in open season.
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#8  Edited By NickA
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This is the Predator's Caste 
 
Unblooded Caste

These are young Yautja, ranging from pre-teen to late-teen, who have never been on a hunt. They have accumulated no honour, but they have a driving desire to do so.

Unblooded Yautja will typically spend most of their time studying the traditional combat techniques of the Yautja, the concept of honour, the sacred laws, rules of the hunt and suchlike, as well as asserting themselves amongst their peers. When they understand the basics of the hunt and concepts of honour, they are put into practice fights and subjected to rigorous tests.

When their masters have felt that they have learned all that they can learn in the training rooms, the Unblooded Yautja are placed in the kainde amedha chiva, or 'Hard Meat Trial'. This trial is their first true, live hunt. Under the supervision of their masters, the young Yautja will hunt the Hard Meat, or xenomorphs. If victorious, the young Yautja will mark themselves with the blood of the Hard Meat and, if possible, keep a skull as a trophy. This gives them honour and allows them to enter the ranks of the full, adult, Blooded Yautja. Those who die on the hunt will be remembered with honour for dying a noble death. Any Yautja who survive but fail to kill prey, thus failing to Blood themselves, will either be remain Unblooded and continue training, will be considered a 'lost cause' by their masters and simply given up on, or even Outcast from the clan, depending on the circumstances.

Any newly Blooded Yautja found to have used dishonourable methods on their first hunt will return to the ranks of the Unblooded, as they obviously do not understand the concept of honour yet. If it was a severe breach of the rules, for which there is no excuse, they may be Outcast, as any other Yautja.

Unblooded Yautja are not permitted to use or own any hunting technology until they are instructed to do so by their masters, and even then they will only receive a basic kit, as provided to them by their masters. If Soft Meat are likely to be present at their kainde amedha chiva, masters will permit the use of cloaking technology.

Unblooded Yautja are not permitted to hunt Soft Meat (humans, and your other generic sentient races) unless forced to do so by the Soft Meat themselves, and even then, they may only fight enough to defend themselves.

Young Bloods

These are fairly new hunters who may have only successfully completed one or two hunts including their kainde amedha chiva. They have some small amount of honour, and are frequently 'guided' in the right direction by older, more experienced and highly regarded Yautja. Some Young Bloods may feel as though they are still being taught new things, though, unlike the Unblooded there is no safety net.

Young Bloods are frequently reckless and arrogant of their abilities. A few sensible Young Bloods exist, but it is likely that they will take foolish risks and may not even be as stealthy as they should when stalking their prey. Indeed, they may not even bother with stalking, and jump right in for the kill. Young Blood fatalities are amongst the highest of all the castes.

Young Bloods are permitted to follow the experienced Warriors on the 'mass hunts' -- these are hunts against vast numbers of prey, usually the Hard Meat, and will involve a great many hunters. Young Bloods will frequently 'fill out' any gaps in numbers. They are encouraged against going on solo hunts. However, sometimes, more experienced hunters who see promise in a particular Young Blood may allow him to tag along on a solo hunt as an observer, to see how it is done.

Young Bloods may not yet own much in the way of hunting equipment.

Although Young Bloods are strongly discouraged against hunting Soft Meat, there are no restrictions stopping them from doing so if they decide to.

Blooded Caste (A.K.A. 'Full Bloods')

The only difference between Blooded Yautja and Young Bloods is a level of experience or honour. Blooded hunters are true, skilled hunters, with a medium degree of honour to their name. They may have been on many mass hunts, and will now be thinking about going on a solo hunt. A Blooded Yautja is likely to be favoured over a Young Blood when Yautja are being selected for a mass hunt.

Blooded Yautja will probably have gained ownership of much Yautja hunting technology, though they may still lack a few useful weapons.

Warrior Caste

Warriors are masters of the hunt -- they are Yautja in their element. Learning their lessons well from a great many previous hunts, a Warrior will be a violent, ferocious opponent with access to an impressive level of skills. Warriors revel in solo hunts against deadly opponents, preferring to challenge their very limits in pursuit of honour. The wall of a Warrior's quarters will likely be covered in a variety of skulls from all over the galaxy.

Hunters of the Warrior caste are frequently known to use more psychological warfare tactics than any other attacks while on a hunt. Their main objective is to frighten their prey, to make it paranoid and irrational. When hunting a group of prey, the Warrior will take them down slowly; one after the other, at opportune moments. This only serves to increase the fear. In battle, they are violent and deadly, capable of matching most Yautja one-on-one.

With access to most types of Yautja technology, Warriors only become more potent and deadly.

Warriors sometimes lead mass hunts against improbable odds. They are extremely well respected and have accumulated an impressive amount of honour. They hold great sway in clan politics. Warriors will usually be 200-300 years old.

Some Warriors will teach Unblooded Yautja when they are not on a hunt.

The Honoured Caste

These are the elite hunters of Yautja society. They are more skilled than any other hunters in the galaxy, and will have triumphed in more hunts than they could even remember. Elite hunters will probably have stopped collecting lesser skulls from their victims, simply because they have so many. Unless they take down a particularly challenging prey, such as an Alien Queen or another particularly vicious lifeform, in which case they will make room for it.

Most Honoured hunters are thinking about retiring from the hunt. Their age, usually 400 years or more, will soon begin to impact upon their skills. Some Elites become full time teachers of the Unblooded, passing on their knowledge to the next generations of hunters.

Once a Yautja has lived through enough hunts to join the ranks of the elite, they are virtually unstoppable killing machines, with access to the most advanced Yautja technology ever created and with more tactics than entire armies. So few Yautja survive to this age that they are incredibly well respected, and hold a significant degree of power in internal politics. The endorsement of an Honoured hunter can make or break a reputation.

The Elders (A.K.A. Ancients)

The greatest hunters that have ever lived will become known as 'honoured elders'. There is no higher position within Yautja society, with some Elders even outranking the Alpha Male of their clan. Elders could quite easily kill any other Yautja in battle without even exerting themselves. They are legendary, and will have survived thousands of some of the greatest hunts in history.

Elders may have grown weary of the hunt, though. At an age sometimes exceeding 700 years, they may also have started to 'lose their edge'. So they will likely start looking for other means to entertain themselves -- they could not possibly become more honoured by their society, so hunting may seem somewhat futile. Some Elders devote their time to learning about the combat ways of other species -- for example, there are stories of Elders who are versed in Earth-style martial arts -- while others will simply make it their purpose to dispense advice to younger hunters, and sometimes help on particularly difficult mass hunts.

Despite their almost godlike ability at killing, you would likely rather want to meet an Elder Yautja in a dark alley than any of the younger castes. They are generally more compassionate and tolerant, and are so confident in their superiority and skill that they simply have no need to demonstrate it. Whereas younger castes may take to hunting the unsuspecting person, an Elder might go so far as to try talking to it.

Arbitrators

All societies with rules need people to enforce those rules.

Yautja who are bored with the hunt, but do not wish to stop serving a purpose, may become Arbitrators. These elite Yautja 'police' hunt their own kind -- but only those who have broken the rules. For example, if one Yautja murdered another, Arbitrators would begin hunting that Yautja.

Arbitrators are judge, jury and executioners all in one, and are ruthless in ensuring honour amongst the Yautja is maintained. The likelihood of an outsider encountering an Arbitrator is minimal, as they do not concern themselves with other species.

Eta Caste

Those Yautja with no honour, and no means/desire of acquiring any honour, will end up being classified as an Eta. Cripples, retards, seriously ill and completely unskilled Unblooded Yautja fall under this category. Eta are essentially slaves to the hunters. They do perform vital functions, such as making sure food is available, maintaining Yautja technologies and researching new technologies. But they are still disrespected by the hunting castes, and frequently ridiculed. None are ever killed, though.

Eta are not to be confused with Bad Bloods. There is nothing illegal about having no honour -- though, there is nothing to be gained from it, either.

Bad Bloods

These are Yautja who have broken the sacred laws of the Yautja society, and have been outcast from their clans with no hope of returning. Those Yautja accused of serious crimes, such as the murder of another Yautja, will end up being hunted by Arbitrators from various clans.

Bad Bloods can vary in skill level, from being equal to Young Bloods to being equal to Honoured or Warrior Yautja in combat. Most Bad Bloods don't bother with hunting anymore, but aimlessly wander the galaxy. Some continue with the hunts though. And a Yautja who hunts without being bound by any rules or honour, is a very dangerous Yautja indeed. There are even stories of Bad Bloods specifically hunting other Yautja, treating them like prey rather than predators.

Some Bad Bloods are not necessarily criminals, though. They may have been somewhat unskilled in the hunt, and would rather leave their clan than become an Eta. These Bad Bloods are usually less 'bad' than an average Yautja. Some are even respectable, social creatures who avoid killing anybody.

Some Bad Bloods may carry Yautja hunting technology, if their clanmates failed to relieve them of it in time. Others may have fashioned their own since being outcast. Those who are not interested in the hunt anymore may have little more than a civilian vessel purchased from some other society.
    
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#9  Edited By jesse1040

EU luke

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#10  Edited By lagoon_boy
@NickA:
Well the rest are useless since there is still no Alpha there also this didn't state Predators can Block any Force choke's pushes and other things.
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#11  Edited By ssejllenrad
@lagoon_boy: They can! Read the Yuuzhan Vong war... They're just predators from a long time ago in a galaxy far far away! Hehehehe! J/K....
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#12  Edited By NickA
@lagoon_boy:
Predator are too fast  and the Predator will be cloaked also
 
The Alpha Male is the leader of the hunts. He may not always be the most skilled hunter, but he usually is. The Alpha Male is a highly influential person in Yautja society, and usually decides, in conjunction with his mate, where the next mass hunt will take place. Hunters decide upon their own solo hunts, and the Alpha Male will help them reach their hunting grounds.
   
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#13  Edited By Thor's hammmer

as muck as predators are skilled if they don't get the drop on luke which would be very hard because he's a jedi wouldn't he just dispatch them with the force
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#14  Edited By lagoon_boy
@NickA:  Cloaking devices shouldn't work due to the Force, i think they can detect him.
 
So are the Jedi's in fact Predators has  had always trouble with aliens in terms of speed, so most Jedi especially Luke should be faster then any Yaujita's
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#15  Edited By jesse1040

idk i think luke might have it here add the power over the force he has and his light saber and you got two dead alphas

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#16  Edited By lagoon_boy
@jesse1040:  Then why did you make this thread?
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#17  Edited By NickA

Predator are fast enough to keep up with cars and caught a subway train 
The Predator will destroy Luke with his Plasma Caster
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#18  Edited By jesse1040
@lagoon_boy: because i was wondering what everyone else opinion was and so far no one has put up a good point why the 2 alphas could win
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#19  Edited By NickA
@jesse1040:
One Predator can solo
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#20  Edited By lagoon_boy
@NickA:  Anyone could do that... that predator kept up with a train via shortcut. any could do that. 
 
The lightsaber as been shown to deflect most laser based attacks and cut through most materials....the only thing that can block a lightsaber is another lightsaber.
 
Jedi's has been shown to have the ability to leap from one hovercar to another, i'm sure they won't have any problems with Yaujita's and Yaujita's aren't that fast....there just agile.
 
Again the predator always does have trouble against ailiens which has been proved over and over again.
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#21  Edited By jesse1040
@NickA:  EU grandmaster Luke could solo a clan of predators maybe movie luke could get soloed by a predator
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#22  Edited By lagoon_boy
@NickA:  Please stop.
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#23  Edited By NickA
@lagoon_boy:
Unbloods have trouble with aliens 
How do you know it used a shortcut and a Predator still was able to keep up with a car 
A Blooded Predator was able to give a weaken Superman a run for his money 
 
Watch 0:28 - 0:32 Predator's Durability 
  
  
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#24  Edited By NickA
@lagoon_boy:
The Predator wins 
The Predator's Plasma Caster was able to shoot through the hull of a ship
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#25  Edited By lagoon_boy
@NickA:  What i mean is....The train wasn't that far to begin with anyone could catch up to a train that wasn't that far.
 
Games are non-canon so that doesn't count
 
Really any proof?
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#26  Edited By NickA
@lagoon_boy:
I havent heard anything about the games being non canon 
Proof watch the beginning of AVPR
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#27  Edited By lagoon_boy
@NickA:  Really? WOW......You can kill as much aliens you want and not get a single scratch of armor in the game...but yet in the movies...two to three aliens and the Predator is dead....man... please.
 
Proof of the Predator giving Superman a good fight.
 
Blasting a a hole in the hull of the ship isn't impressive is it, Hell a lightsaber cut through a very stick material of a door thingy... Dude again please..
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#28  Edited By lagoon_boy
(I'll leave you a little gift)
 
Lets establish this quickly.
 
  1. The Predator despite his feat of catching up to a train Aliens has dominated Predator's in terms of speed.
  2. The only real Superiority that the Predator has is his strength and technology.
  3. A lightsaber has have more showings of it's durability and power...and in a debate...feats are everything
  4. The force should have no trouble suspending a Predator in the air while being helplessly stabbed.
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#29  Edited By Rainx20

Empire strikes back luke isn't a very fair match up like barely could grab his lightsaber with the force so he would have his hands full in this case but return if the Jedi luke would tear them apart and eu luke not even a question he would be eating predator in a stick

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@jesse1040: return if the Jedi Luke would stomp them he defeated vader with ease and vader >>> any predator

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What version of Luke is this? EU Rebellion era Luke is enough to solo the Predators, Grand Master Luke would stomp them with a simple gesture and movie Luke would lose.

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#32  Edited By Rainx20

@nicka: the predator might defeat luke in his state in empire strikes back because he is very novice but fighting an experienced luke skywalker like In return of the Jedi or the expanded universe the alpha predators have a snow balls chance in hell of taking Luke. Luke defeats Vader with ease in return of the Jedi. If you don't know vader is ranked as the second strongest Sith Lord of all time. Sith Lords who are weaker then him like darth nihlius have destroyed planets with the force. The predators are not on that scale of power. I understand you like the predator a lot but the truth is he would get wrecked by a Jedi Knight Luke.

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What version of Luke is this? EU Rebellion era Luke is enough to solo the Predators, Grand Master Luke would stomp them with a simple gesture and movie Luke would lose.

Disagree with the first. I see alot of "Force Dispatch" this or "Kill em with the Force" that and that is BS. Luke will not KILL with the Force due to that being Dark Side of the Force. He will Force Push, Pull, Wave, ect, but nothing like Force Choking or Force Lightning. He killes with the Saber more than anything. I can see many useful gear being used vs Luke. Like Plasma Casters. Unlike Lasers or Blasters which seem be light base, Plasma is super heat and nothing more. Super heat with a large explosive radius at times.

Rebillion Era Luke could indeed take one, however this is a 2 vs 1 match. 1 Elite is enough. 2 of them is a bit much. The 2 soldiers are a non factor.