Trigon vs. Marvel Hell-Lords, Demons, Evil Entities

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The Rules

• Morals off. Bloodlust on.
• Win by any means possible.
• All Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis feats applicable for Trigon.
• Surtur has his Twilight Sword.

The Rounds

1. Random encounter in a neutral location.
2. Battle inside Trigon's realm.
3. Trigon gets 3 days prep.
4. Trigon fights them individually.
5. No teams. Free for all.

If this is unfair or needs improving just let me know.

@mysticmedivh: Don't know much about Trigon, but I know all about the enemies.

And Mephisto would died even before the fight, he's the weaker member.

Too many demons

He can take any of them one on one, all together he has no chance.

Even if it's Silver Age Trigon in his own realm?

Trigon

Think he looses outside of his own realm, but inside he should win... even if he ends up looking like he did in Titans.

Shuma, Cyttorak, and Dormmamu are the only remote threats the rest get smited in the shockwaves of the fight. None of these guys can handle Trigon on their own but it's hard to say if Trigon can best them all at once but I think Trigon has the feats to say he could.

All rounds?

@themagicstik: Chthon and Set have better feats than Cyttorak and I personally see them as more powerful.

Chthon can't even enter on the Universe because the power released by doing that would destroy it, and he's bigger than the Universe too.

Set showed superiority in relation to a Cosmic Cube.

They shouldn't be taken lightly.

Oh yeah I forgot about the rounds. Yeah I think Trigon might fall at 3 but the rest are in his favor.

Didn't Chthon and Set get defeated by Demogorge?

Do you have any scans for anything, I'm not exactly an expert on some of the Marvel demons but I've been in threads and nobody has really linked any impressive scans.

@themagicstik:When Demogorge absorbed their entire race, and they weren't immediately take out too.

Sure, I'll see if I can find them.

@themagicstik: Anyway, here's a part from his Bio during the 80's that mention he can't enter on Earth Dimension because of his power:

Stephen saying that his come to the Universe means the end of it:

Eternity thanking Pym from saving him from Chthon:

Also, the second scan goes by interpretation really, Victoria was used to bring Chthon to the Universe, so Stephen is probably talking about the danger of it, not that the universe might be destroyed when he enters:

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About Set I'll take more time.

@asmodeus12345 said:

@themagicstik: Anyway, here's a part from his Bio during the 80's that mention he can't enter on Earth Dimension because of his power:

Stephen saying that his come to the Universe means the end of it:

Eternity thanking Pym from saving him from Chthon:

Also, the second scan goes by interpretation really, Victoria was used to bring Chthon to the Universe, so Stephen is probably talking about the danger of it, not that the universe might be destroyed when he enters:

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About Set I'll take more time.

Didn't Loki say in Siege that he morphed into Eternity and tricked Pym in that 3rd scan?

1 the sewers

2 trigon

3 team

4 dunno

Trigon!

@mysticmedivh: Is this for real?

Nearly all except Mephisto probably can solo him...

Considering that weaker beings than him here have being referenced as Universal Threats, yes, Shuma is a Multiversal Threat.

Heck, Dormammu alone is already Universal.

It's been a time since I read Siege, so I don't know, I will take a look at it though.

@sophia89: @asmodeus12345: Shuma Gorath is not a multiversal threat but rather universal insofar as the battle takes outside his native dimension.

Being the embodiment of a whole dimension makes it very difficult for Shuma to manifest at full power outside his dimension.

@claymore1998: Actually, Round 3 takes inside.

And I take as Multiversal since Dormammu was referenced as Universal Threat and he's well below Shuma.

@asmodeus12345: well Round 3 would be different then , I totally didn't see that.

Well Shuma outside his dimension hasn't been that impressive , which is understandable because it's pretty difficult for him to manifest in full outside. Also in line of Death just defeating the whole on old ones with 1 energy attack it makes it pretty hard to say Shuma is multiversal.

It think Shuma was just created that way to make him easier to deal with. I mean they had to find a way to defeat the very embodiment of primal chaos, making him vastly weaker outside the realm would help with that. I mean how else would you defeat a demon whose portion of power from 1000 dimension away nearly killed Gaea as a side effect of his battle with Stephen o_0

To be fair, in the same story he saw how big is the gap between some like Death and people like Galactus and Celestials, while they're struggling to the Galactus Engine, Death one-shotted it by herself, so it wasn't really a bad showing for Shuma.

I think we both agree that between her brothers and her sister, Gaea should be the weaker of the Elder Gods, the superiority from her siblings was pretty much stabilized.

Shuma solos. Cyttorak might also. Trigon can beat the rest more than likely.

I'm thinking demons from what I've seen

@johnfrank120: it's marvel demons though not me and bumpy >_>

@claymore1998: Yeah I know, you guys would stomp as when you start humming T-Swift he commits suicide as it is so bad.

@johnfrank120: lol that was actually very funny and witty.

While I am offended and I am offended with a smile on my face =)

Well done good sir.

@claymore1998: Boom!

@johnfrank120: did you just explode after seeing my compliments ?

Lol

@claymore1998: Yep, compliments from you, IMPOSSIBRU

Quoted so you can't change it, tarnishing your eviler than evil reputation forever.

Shuma god of cancerverse solos.

Trigon can only win in his realm, otherwise he will be stomped. Too many heavy hitters, although, I think he can win agaisnt anyone there in a one on one fight.

Some serious overrating of Trigon here.

@claymore1998: Could you remember me again why Dormammu was inferior to Eternity? Because I wanted to argue that, and since Killemall isn't here, I think I can only do that with you.

EDIT: Like, I really want to debate this topic, most of the time I'm not serious or I lose the interest in the debate and let him, but this time not, I'm going to be totally serious, and different from the other times we debated, this I won't take lightly.

@mysticmedivh: Also,you could use some different versions of the characters too, for example, while Dormammu is below beings like Galactus and Eternity by many( This we gonna see after my debate with Claymore if she wants to, I'm going to defend Dormammu against Eternity), some versions are easily more powerful , like:

1. Cosmic Axis Dormammu

2. Dormammu as Eternity during Defenders Vol 3.

3. Doctor Dormammu( This is the merged version of Dormammu and Strange, the same was hinted to burn The Celestial Race and overpower The Goddess with The Cosmic Egg)

4. Evil Eye Dormammu.

There's even a Alternate Reality Dormammu that was like Chaos King, he was the antithesis of the Eternity from his universe.

This is 616 cannon Dormammu.

Just your average, regular Dormammu. Nothing special. Not with Eternity's powers or merged with Strange.

Well I thought that part would be rather obvious. They have fought and Dormammu lost despite Eternity not attacking him. When Dormammu was amped by the shift in cosmic axis he himself explained how powerful Eternity was, who likewise treated Dormammu as nothing.

Eternity is just the most powerful cosmic entity around , barring Living Tribunal. Even in his own bio it mentions his only superior as a character is Living Tribunal.

@Saren: @SC: How is this not locked, and mine was?

@kingant27: Hello. I do not know about your thread or why it was locked my friend, so when you ask such questions I am not sure how you would like me to answer? Personally I am okay with threads like these ones, there are multiple rounds and people can discuss why its unfair and their explanations can be interesting but if a Battles moderator wants to lock it then you will have to ask them/wait for them.

@sc: This is extremely unfair, and past a stomp, a Curbstomp etc, yet mine got locked for being debatable; so I'm not sure how the moderators are deciding a fair thread to another?

@kingant27: I think you should continue that in a PM

@kingant27: Send me a PM okay if you want to discuss something. You shouldn't assume that moderators are single headed creature, because I don't know who locked your thread or why, or whether you are credible enough to assert that it was debatable and I am not a Battles moderator. If you think this thread should be locked, flag it or wait for Saren. That simple. Don't cry foul or appeal to fairness after I have already explained to you such things please.