#1 Posted by jashro44 (29791 posts) - - Show Bio





  • Deathstroke has his promethium armor, Promethium Blade, blast staff, and 3 grenades
  • Train has Hades, flash bangs, grenades, freeze bullets, paralyzing bullets, burst bullets and tear gas bullets
  • Pre 52 deathstroke
  • Morals are on
  • Random encounter
  • Win by KO/Death/Incapacitation


  • Both begin visible
  • Start On opposite ends
  • Fight takes place here:

Who wins and why?

#2 Posted by God_Spawn (39445 posts) - - Show Bio

Train's feats.

Redirecting multiple bullets from a trained killer rapidly firing twin pistols at him to the point dust is kicked up then proceeds to fire two bullets into the barrels of his guns. Last 2 scans are inverted.

He can easily leap 6-7 meters which is about 20-22 feet. He can also cartwheel dodging multiple goons with machine guns firing at him while taking them out in non-lethal shots.

He can hold a grenade then escape with almost zero damage just as it explodes. Last scan for some reason is missing but he is elsewhere with just part of his coat smoldering.

An accuracy feet which he deems a rusty one. He shoots a soda from a nice distance and "misses" 2 shots when he tried putting all six shots through the same hole and succeeds putting 4 through the same hole while the can was in mid-air.

Shot through a crowd of people to hit his target with a non-lethal bullet.

The scans are pieced. After scan 2 he relaxes his hit and falls but gets up so the softness of his neck muscles relaxed the blow. Just after the 3rd scan, he kicks the guy lol.

He turns and intercepts bullets from across a ballroom. 4th scan is just more bullet deflection.

He can dodge bullets near point black after fired. He can also tag a guy who can punch bullets back at people in 0.57 seconds (previous page but no scan) near full force of which they are fired, using perfectly calculated ricochet shots and to do so with just barely scraping his cheek to draw blood. Note the guy can create after images and swing his fist so fast and powerful that he generate mach speed fist projectile forces.

Train can also dodge a close quarter full machine gun clip from two machine guns from a trained killer and also swing his own gun so fast he create wind pressures to counter hell fire projections.

Scans 1-3 show one of Train's techniques called Black Claw. Scan 1 is a single claw ( a weakened version), scan 2-3 show the full version. The single claw itself easily broke an armor that can withstand with grenades. It took an RPG exploding point blank to shatter that armor with the men still alive.

Scans 4-8 show the different types of bullets.

Scan 4: Exploding bullets. Note the guy who he shot was capable of taking a hit to the head from a guy that could press thousands of pounds of concrete+ extra falling rubble landing on it. So it shows the durability Creed naturally had.

Scans 5-6: Tear gas bullets.

Scans 7-8: Liquid nitrogen bullets.

Scans 9-11: Railgun technique. It flies faster than a guy who can punch a bullet (in about .57 seconds) back at people at full force to perceive. It also plows into a boulder.

Scans 12-14: Black Cross, which causes an explosion too.

Final 2 scans: Shows burst railgun which shatters Creed's final sword level.

Forgot these too. Paralyzing bullets.

And in comparison to Creed, Train has durability himself. Creed's 3rd form can do this.

Creed grabbed Train and smashed him into a stone tower and crumbled it inward and Trained was KO'd briefly but got up to fight shortly after. So he can take some punishment himself. I won't say he can tank dozens of hits from Spider-Man but just showing he does have a degree of durability himself and has rolled with hits from bullet reactors who break trees down with his hits. So it was a skill and speed feat.

Train also carries flashbangs with him and other grenades and uses them frequently. He often throws them and shoots them with bullets to keep their effects ranged.

I'll also upload a good chunk of his fight with Creed. It has a few reflex feats in there too.

#3 Posted by jobbernos (1522 posts) - - Show Bio

deathstroke easily.

#4 Posted by jashro44 (29791 posts) - - Show Bio

@jobbernos said:

deathstroke easily.

Do you have a reason this is easy?

#5 Posted by Needlebay (2387 posts) - - Show Bio

Train wins.

#6 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (7105 posts) - - Show Bio


Bigger, badder, meaner, better, tougher, faster, stronger, deadlier, etc. etc. etc.

#7 Posted by laflux (20727 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke due to armor and Blade.

#8 Edited by God_Spawn (39445 posts) - - Show Bio

If Train was given his railgun ability, he could possibly take it in a slim majority but I'd still back DS. Without it, his chances are much slimmer but can give Slade a good fight but ends up losing. He usually starts with regular bullets before switching to explosive, freeze paralysis rounds. And I do think Slade's armor for the most part can block his regular bullets given the chance Train tags him, which I do think is possible with some effort on his part. Slade is no easy target and with Train 99% of the time using non lethal tactics and shots, it puts him at another disadvantage.

The guy's morals are his own worst enemy. He doesn't have a problem killing given he used to do it all the time, but he tries to avoid it all costs and only does it if he has to. His morals are his own worst enemy. He plays too nice at first and without knowledge of DS, I think it lessens his chance for the winning shot or bullet. But with his speed, agility, own strength and self sacrifice (he has given up limbs before to let swordsman get in close enough to burst bullet them), he can put a great fight and possibly even sneak a few wins given how well he did against Creed whom I wouldn't give Deathstroke a majority over. Slade's aggressiveness, speed, skill, blade, and armor will eventually be too much for Train.